14816016? ago

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14806929? ago

Reason they use special refractory in furnaces and not just normal concrete.

14804797? ago

Something funny about the top level not effected like the center ir even the non burned cars.

14803942? ago

This is quite entertaining. They come out in droves to push back. What are we seeing here?

14808265? ago

What are we seeing here?

Looks like someone unfamiliar with concrete, who also hasn't done a web or image search on concrete spalling.

14813870? ago

Lol pushback. You have no power here.

14815816? ago

Pushback against what? Are you a shill for big concrete or something?

14817933? ago

This has to be the most low-energy pushback yet.

You can do better than that.

14803703? ago

Sure the concrete failed but the structure held. Even with the weight of the cars, there was no collaspe of the building.

14803900? ago

Ha ha ha what is your point here?

14804135? ago

Ha ha ha, no point just stating obvious fact.

14803567? ago

Probably caused by a Prius driver.

14803347? ago

Who puts a parking garage in a forest?

14803278? ago

Chinese concrete?

14802539? ago

yeaaaa WTF

14802286? ago

wow... just.... wow... what would or could even cause that?

really, concrete has stood for 100 years and been burned many many times and i have never seen anything remotely like this.

if anyone has any other pics (other than 9/11) please post them

14804725? ago

Burned by what a piece of paper? Could 2x4s. Look at all the accelerants fuel, rubber, oil, plastic.

14804610? ago

Quote from this website

" Spalling behavior of concrete

If the concrete is heated quickly and high thermal stresses occur, considerable damage may be caused to the concrete structural elements.Fire can cause mechanical stress and chemical changes inside the structural concrete, which may decrease mechanical properties such as strength or the modulus of elasticity. The concrete heats up from the edge areas, causing drainage and evaporation processes to take place. This causes steam pressure, leading to explosive cracking of the concrete, known as spalling or temperature shock.

This behavior becomes more marked as the strength of the structural concrete increases: the pore volume in high-strength concretes are reduced, lowering their permeability. High-performance concretes have proven to be particularly prone to spalling. In addition, smoke can enter the concrete through hairline cracks that develop when the material is exposed to fire, accelerating the carbonatation process or introducing chlorides, for example, and corroding the reinforcing steel. "

14804830? ago

TY for the reply. It isn't common though I would hope we all agree.

14808232? ago

It's apparently common with the right type of fire in proximity to the right type and form of concrete. Do an image search and you'll see pages of examples.

14807758? ago

It is common to see isolated areas spall. How ever the damage in the picture is extensive and not common. Shows how hot that fire was.

14802246? ago

Oh, you mean concrete fire spalling?

Never seen that before...good grief.

14803856? ago

Never seen that before...good grief.

This image makes no sense. You can gaslight all you want and it will not change what everybody can see in the image. This is not normal.

14811827? ago

Gaslight? Talk to a firefighter that works in a city and ask about concrete fire spalling. Sometimes a fire is just a fire moron.

14813860? ago

uh huh. In this picture, what do you think was the fuel for the fire?

14816871? ago

tires, interior, then dun Dun DUN.... the gas in the tanks. One goes then they all go.

14817873? ago

Ha ha ha why do you even try?

14817956? ago

I know, Tesla Death Ray much more plausible.

edit: you're still an idiot.

14817978? ago

The picture makes no sense. It is what it is. I have proposed no theory, no explanation, so you cannot conclude that I am an idiot. The picture says it all.

14818014? ago

I can also conclude you think the Tesla Death Ray took out everything shown in the link for concrete fire spalling too, ergo.....idiot.

14818239? ago

I have no idea what you are talking about. I just shared a picture. It would be in your best interest to stop replying.

14818272? ago

Or what? You'll continue to post nonsense? Hasn't stopped you yet; carry on with your idiocy.

14818689? ago

Go ahead, keep replying.

Incidentely, my uncle had not stopped interrogating the unrelated witness regarding Antarctica, and a green field near the epicenter of the conflagration known as pizzagate. How do you explain the auras around the infections of the multitudes that have been affected by vaccinations.

14819310? ago

Lol :D

14808175? ago

Concrete can spall in two ways

Fire spalling of concrete can be described as either:

● a fire-induced explosion of a whole crosssection, typically the web of a beam (see Figure 1) or

● flaking of material from the surface of a cross-section during fire (see Figure 2).

The flaking process can range from spalling the outer millimetres of the surface to, in severe cases, a continuous flaking until the whole cross-section is lost.

That is apparently normal in an intense fire. Do a web search and you'll see plenty of material on the subject.

14813880? ago

Lol CONTINUOUS FLAKING.

What the hell are you doing here? Did you come here to refute.... What?

911 bots still active

14815844? ago

This is a weird troll post.

14817911? ago

Yeah. A weird troll post. I think this pic is from 9/11 which is why all you folks come out of the woodwork to talk about concrete spalling. It doesn't matter. Y'all are fucked anyway.

14818725? ago

I think this pic is from 9/11

Yeah. A weird troll post.

Agreed, but it's from the Liverpool Waterfront car park in King's Dock. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-45604539

14819265? ago

Ty

14804686? ago

I imagine they make the floors light as possible, have ever had a fire directly on your drive way, the non uniform thermal expansion will break the concrete. No doubt about it. Given that it's thin shit I can see this happening, especially with all the fuel and rubber and oil burning.

14813885? ago

Lol, no doubt about it. Let me explain.

14804554? ago

-No Gas lighting. Although the damage is extreme, it's completely normal for concrete to spall in very hot long burning fires. Look into it and educate your self.

-It doesn't make sense to you because you have probably never seen something like that before.

By the way I'm a level two Nondestructive Testing technician with a concentration in concrete testing for refractories. I'm certified by ASNT so I know a thing or two about how heat fucks with concrete and refractory insulation.

We aren't arguing the cause of the fire, only the damage caused by the fire. Some weird shit happened in that fire. However back to the desegregated concrete. Take a look at the aerial picture and pay attention to the cars at the bottom left. See those rectangle patterns on the surface of the deck? That is caused by heat. You can actually see the outline of the support beams that are below the deck. Then look to the left of the station wagon you will see the same type of damage is starting there as well, just not as progressed as seen in the middle of the garage.

14813897? ago

Yes. So here on Voat we have Nondestructive Testing Technician. Because he follows QRV. I'm surprised you folks are still bothering.

14802184? ago

I have seen this before inside of refractories. Essentially what has happened is that the incline of the road to the top of the parking garage concentrated the heat from the fire because as we all know heat rises. The fire looks like it was burning for a while and was so hot that the concrete started to break down and started to de-laminate in layers. Concrete is not meant to take long periods of heat and depending on quality of the concrete it could come out from the ordeal cracked up or totally de-laminiated like you see here.

14803917? ago

LOL give it up.

14803807? ago

Lol, uh huh

14802581? ago

Hey, but that screws up the narrative I just invested in

14804714? ago

Gooona have to make sure he suisides from a door knob now.

14802870? ago

Hey, truth matters! Lol

14802884? ago

Truth is cool by I like big sky-lasers more

14803116? ago

Well, good news is... we got those too.

14802143? ago

Where was this from?

14801945? ago

Which fire was this and where? Thx...

14801875? ago

Same weapon used on 911.

14802587? ago

No, stupid

14801891? ago

Tesla Tech.

14804772? ago

Because a parking structure during a forest fire is optimum target to risk discovery, ppl are stupid. Ok fire Marshall Bills, and yeah that an in living rank on all ya faggots.

14803005? ago

Ever since the treaty telling us they weren’t putting them up there

14803102? ago

I'm sure there was a Space Program hidden behind NASA and Pentagon budgets.

Shuttle launches were sometimes on the level, sometimes a different payload than what we were told was aboard.

This is common sense, logical thinking.

14801671? ago

Wow. How?

14802584? ago

Concrete Burns up