Cookies..srayzie was a divider. When I pointed out that she posted something that had her pic with comments, she blew it off. She put herself in the spotlight because she wanted all you fuckers to notice her. An ego trip took her down. Pride before the fall. Telling her to kill herself was wrong...calling her out for her bullshit right. Caring about wth a stranger on the internet thinks.... priceless! Now give me my safe space.
Fun facts about Srayzie vs hojuruku. I don't know how it got started, but when she convinced us that he is some evil retard that is harassing her, she very much enjoyed trolling him with our help. We didn't know who he was or cared so we stooped after a day, but she continued with her trolls to the point that he left voat. She posted to the v/hojuruku hate sub, and enjoyed making insulting pics and gifs USING HIS REAL FACE PICS. Example of her work:
She made A BUNCH of these trolls using his real face pics, and continuously posted them both on voat and her twitter. But when facing the same treatment, its dox and harassment. Srayzie hypocrisy 11/10. @Crensch@heygeorge@trigglypuff@Shizy@MolochHunter
Wow! I vaguely remember this. Now I feel even better about my deleted comment on her ex-sub. She sounds more and more like a fatass nicegirl who spends all day in front of her PC. Bet she's got piss bottles and uses those female piss funnels so she doesn't have to get up and away from her jumbo cheese ball bucket. Fuck im loving this history that's coming out. Thanks, ES
She isn't obese but she is chubby and has a jewish looking face. I think shes a retired boomer houswife with 16h of free time on her hands between sleep. I mean her twitter had over Q meme pics and gifs, most of them made by her.
Any woman who is over 120-140lbs is a landwhale and can't take care of herself. Deserves to be shot in the woods and carried off for soap manufactury. It's not within our values established on voat to seem those women worth it. I am a very active follower of v/FPH
Yea, I think a lot of people enjoy some drama but if it starts burying the message of the sub then we'll have to go back to labeling things as drama again.
Your table says the earliest date was 2018-04-23. But the actual connection was already made by her on January of 2018. She had survived @JackPosobiec1's dox attempts on President's twitter feed. I would never have expected her to quit...
Here is where shit really seemed to go off the rails.
Either people are ignoring/are unaware of the full picture or they have used this drama to further personal grudges or they simply just don't care. The reasons really don't matter when it comes to the big picture. As I said in my comment on that last link: this kind of shit kills free speech. That's all it can do.
Either it's 'Have your say' on Voat or it's 'Have your say so long as we agree with you or we will burn down your sub and run you off'. So which is it?
I don’t know if you meant to pig me here, but you did. You seem to be ignoring this PV post by kevdude:
What v/greatawakening rules did @trigglypuff break? @katharzo? @expertshitposter? This is bullshit. You don't get to set precedent that other subs will use to reddit this fucking place up. They hurt your feelings. Big fucking deal. You know what you just did? You proved all of your detractors right and made a lot of us look stupid for defending you. Your feelings are not a good enough reason to break Voat's culture of limited moderation.
Turn back now.
Edit: BTW the css trick they pulled? It was used 3 years ago against me and mods of this sub. You know how effective it was against us? Not at all. You know why? Because people who supported this sub and its mission weren't retarded enough to believe anything on a troll sub. I know you think your users are dumb and that they need you to protect them.
You’re not the first to fallowly predict that ‘xyz’ is killing free speech on Voat. I am sure you won’t be the last.
I'm sure you are right about that.
What will kill free speech on Voat is if the user base falls in line with cancermods, lousy global bans, astroturfing, and emotional decision-making.
I agree with that. There is another aspect you left off though although it does relate to astroturfing in a way. People who spend every waking moment fucking with and trying to manipulate mods will inevitably, if they are persistent enough at it, turn someone into a 'cancer mod' or it will just ruin the sub and a large portion of the userbase will just say 'fuck voat, I'm done.' That's why I say these sustained gay ops are bad for Voat and should be discouraged by the community. I've noticed you were going around and telling people that 'it wasn't Reeealy doxing'. So what if it wasn't? It was still 100% faggotry straight off of reddit and it is designed to isolate someone and drive them away which effectively silences them. That is reddit cancer too. Perhaps I am incorrect but it appears to me that you are completely brushing off that side of the problem as a total non-concern.
How many times does this shit have to happen? Stonetoss came to his senses about not being a faggot mod but it was too late even though he changed his mind and came around after an hour or so but even then it was too late and he was run off. WatchPeopleDie were run off, not that I really care for that content at all. How is this in any way good for Voat? Don't you think the community should step in and discourage that kind of behavior from the main perpetrators? Seems like it would be easy enough to stop if anyone wanted to. That's not what happens though.
Is that what you want for Voat? A small pack of people running around and deciding who and what should or should not be allowed to exist on Voat? I don't want that. That's fucked up. People who do that are fucked up. The people doing it seem perfectly fine with it. Other people seem to tacitly approve of it even if they don't actively participate.
It's also disingenuous to call srayzie a 'cancer mod'. She absolutely made mistakes. Everybody in this whole shit show has made mistakes. She also tried rectify them when they happened. This stuff has been going on for a long time. Even before the Q people showed up she was dealing with dickheads and death threats from pizzagate. It was probably the exact same dickheads that ultimately made her snap 9 months later.
It's also disingenuous to call srayzie a 'cancer mod'.
I was not talking about srayz.
Stonetoss reversed course, but then turned tail and left. I’m not even sure where he went off to. I hardly recall watchpeopledie being run off. Maybe they never really settled in?
I can’t (and you can’t, and putts can’t, and crensch can’t) make the Voat community do much of anything.
I've noticed you were going around and telling people that 'it wasn't Reeealy doxing'. So what if it wasn't?
I think it’s important to not let a falsehood like that weave its way into the narrative of What Really Happened. Srayz wasn’t found. She doesn’t have to move. No one’s calling her on the phone. There are probably only a handful of people on here who know her real name. And no one shared that. There was no dox. The narrative should not read that Voat sanctioned something like this.
Plenty of people are concerned and talking about lots of other points you bring up. But that part was (and probably still is) being left to slide by.
I did what I could to advise srayz when she asked. I did the same when she feared dox attempts in the past, and so have others like expie.
People who spend every waking moment fucking with and trying to manipulate mods will inevitably, if they are persistent enough at it, turn someone into a 'cancer mod'
Not every time. Kev gets slammed constantly but just that sort of bogeyman, and that asshole keeps his shit together. The system subverses live on as well. Why do you think that is?
I don’t even remember the number of times users have systematically tried to drive me off Voat. It hasn’t worked. Some of my friends and some of Voat’s finest content contributors were driven off. And you’re right, it does suck. It’s terrible.
The problem with fighting this is multi-faceted. Very simply, you don’t put out a fire with more fire. This is precisely the metaphor Crensch has been using. It will not work.
Stonetoss reversed course, but then turned tail and left. I’m not even sure where he went off to. I hardly recall watchpeopledie being run off. Maybe they never really settled in?
I never did learn where Stonetoss went. I tried putting out that fire but it was too late. I'm not really sure what happened with the watchpeopledie. There was some fight over one of the existing mods here was also a mod at reddit. I think they ended up over at said.it or somewhere. Part of the problem seems to be that new people just simply aren't given enough time to figure out what the hell is going on and how serious a mistake they are making is. About the time they do figure it out it's already too late.
I think it’s important to not let a falsehood like that weave its way into the narrative of What Really Happened. Srayz wasn’t found. She doesn’t have to move. No one’s calling her on the phone. There are probably only a handful of people on here who know her real name. And no one shared that. There was no dox. The narrative should not read that Voat sanctioned something like this.
Agreed. It should also be noted that, in fairness sake, it was taken too far and I suspect @Trigglypuff agrees otherwise I don't think she would have said she was sorry in Putt's 'wild west' thread. I think people should try to keep in keep in mind that just because you can go too far you probably shouldn't. Otherwise we just end up with everyone pissed off at each other and even worse, Putt might feel he has to get involved and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. He'd probably just fuck it up more if he did, anyway. All that is easier said than done when you're pissed off though.
I did what I could to advise srayz when she asked. I did the same when she feared dox attempts in the past, and so have others like expie.
I did the same. I think she just got wore down over time and was at the end of her rope. That said she has as much guilt in all of this as anyone.
Not every time. Kev gets slammed constantly but just that sort of bogeyman, and that asshole keeps his shit together. The system subverses live on as well. Why do you think that is?
Resiliency and a commitment to what Voat stands for, I expect. As for the system subverses I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Because they are essentially unmoderated and everyone respects them? That seems like a pretty good example of how things should work given that they are basically policed by the community. Maybe if Voat wasn't so small shitpost onslaughts would be spread out more and not cause nearly the fallout since the same subs wouldn't constantly be targeted. I dunno.
I don’t even remember the number of times users have systematically tried to drive me off Voat. It hasn’t worked. Some of my friends and some of Voat’s finest content contributors were driven off. And you’re right, it does suck. It’s terrible.
I'm sure I have participated in one or two undeserved ones myself simply because I was working off of incomplete or bad information or the person just pissed me off. Once those things get rolling they tend to get out of control rather quickly as more people get involved and old grudges spring up.
The problem with fighting this is multi-faceted. Very simply, you don’t put out a fire with more fire. This is precisely the metaphor Crensch has been using. It will not work.
I have yet to see a single person say that Trigglypuff was not harassing Srayzie. As we know harassment (aside from vote brigading) is not a bannable offense on Voat.
Keep Personal Information Off Voat:
You agree to not post anyone's sensitive personal information that relates to that person's real world or online identity.
Intheknow2 ago
Cookies..srayzie was a divider. When I pointed out that she posted something that had her pic with comments, she blew it off. She put herself in the spotlight because she wanted all you fuckers to notice her. An ego trip took her down. Pride before the fall. Telling her to kill herself was wrong...calling her out for her bullshit right. Caring about wth a stranger on the internet thinks.... priceless! Now give me my safe space.
ExpertShitposter ago
Fun facts about Srayzie vs hojuruku. I don't know how it got started, but when she convinced us that he is some evil retard that is harassing her, she very much enjoyed trolling him with our help. We didn't know who he was or cared so we stooped after a day, but she continued with her trolls to the point that he left voat. She posted to the v/hojuruku hate sub, and enjoyed making insulting pics and gifs USING HIS REAL FACE PICS. Example of her work:
PM: https://i.imgtc.ws/wmUKUlw.png
GIF: http://i.imgs.fyi/img/35w9.png
She made A BUNCH of these trolls using his real face pics, and continuously posted them both on voat and her twitter. But when facing the same treatment, its dox and harassment. Srayzie hypocrisy 11/10. @Crensch @heygeorge @trigglypuff @Shizy @MolochHunter
BraunF14 ago
Wow! I vaguely remember this. Now I feel even better about my deleted comment on her ex-sub. She sounds more and more like a fatass nicegirl who spends all day in front of her PC. Bet she's got piss bottles and uses those female piss funnels so she doesn't have to get up and away from her jumbo cheese ball bucket. Fuck im loving this history that's coming out. Thanks, ES
ExpertShitposter ago
She isn't obese but she is chubby and has a jewish looking face. I think shes a retired boomer houswife with 16h of free time on her hands between sleep. I mean her twitter had over Q meme pics and gifs, most of them made by her.
BraunF14 ago
Any woman who is over 120-140lbs is a landwhale and can't take care of herself. Deserves to be shot in the woods and carried off for soap manufactury. It's not within our values established on voat to seem those women worth it. I am a very active follower of v/FPH
Dismember ago
The gif doesn't open for me. Anyone else able to see it?
ExpertShitposter ago
My mistake, this example is a static pic. Usually she would make gifs of him dancing and shit.
Dismember ago
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
Nevermind it's this shit of mine breaking the site ^
Dismember ago
No I mean the whole page doesn't load.
can’t establish a connection to the server at i.imgs.fyiAlso I can't upvote your reply because I'm at the limit but thanks.
heygeorge ago
It’s ok, I got him for you. This reminds me, I should report this ol’ sleeper account to v/dud.
;D
Dismember ago
I'd much rather if you posted it to v/dude if thats a thing. It has a much better ring to it.
heygeorge ago
Sorry, it’s been disabled. Perhaps I’ll post it to v/disabled
Dismember ago
Dud or Disabled? This is the kind of choice I had to make a few weeks ago when I voted.
SandHog ago
I don't want to see your subverses torn down though. Or anyone else's for that matter. That's basically my point.
I'm tired of typing but I didn't want to ignore you. You can see my other replies in this thread if you want to see where I am coming from.
theoldones ago
would asking @Crensch to rejoin protectvoat be a way to heal this gap?
auto_turret ago
Fuck anyone white knighting @srayzie.
Good riddance.
theoldones ago
doxxing and harassing was not the way to settle this
zyklon_b ago
yes it was she deleted
theoldones ago
fuck off you piece of garbage
zyklon_b ago
we got her cell nombre now and her kids n hubby are bout to see
RockmanRaiden ago
This isn't satire.
zyklon_b ago
Its all art mein friend
CheeseboogerHimself ago
What about all of the harassing that srayzie shizy and their alts did?
zyklon_b ago
just fun...haha
Salicaz ago
Jesus fucking christ who gives a shit?! This is playground tier drama.
Dismember ago
Yea, I think a lot of people enjoy some drama but if it starts burying the message of the sub then we'll have to go back to labeling things as drama again.
Phantom42 ago
Srayzie left?
Thank you Jesus.
Dortex ago
She's still around, unfortunately. This is all just a big show.
zyklon_b ago
yes
MadWorld ago
Your table says the earliest date was 2018-04-23. But the actual connection was already made by her on January of 2018. She had survived @JackPosobiec1's dox attempts on President's twitter feed. I would never have expected her to quit...
SandHog ago
It was more than women crying. In fact this faggot started the whole thing by crying crocodile tears here.
It continued here
Here is where shit really seemed to go off the rails.
Either people are ignoring/are unaware of the full picture or they have used this drama to further personal grudges or they simply just don't care. The reasons really don't matter when it comes to the big picture. As I said in my comment on that last link: this kind of shit kills free speech. That's all it can do.
Either it's 'Have your say' on Voat or it's 'Have your say so long as we agree with you or we will burn down your sub and run you off'. So which is it?
heygeorge ago
I don’t know if you meant to pig me here, but you did. You seem to be ignoring this PV post by kevdude:
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3237969/
It’s all of these things and more. Some users do have a very wide view of what happened.
You’re not the first to fallowly predict that ‘xyz’ is killing free speech on Voat. I am sure you won’t be the last.
What will kill free speech on Voat is if the user base falls in line with cancermods, lousy global bans, astroturfing, and emotional decision-making.
@kevdude since I’m verbosely quoting him.
SandHog ago
I'm sure you are right about that.
I agree with that. There is another aspect you left off though although it does relate to astroturfing in a way. People who spend every waking moment fucking with and trying to manipulate mods will inevitably, if they are persistent enough at it, turn someone into a 'cancer mod' or it will just ruin the sub and a large portion of the userbase will just say 'fuck voat, I'm done.' That's why I say these sustained gay ops are bad for Voat and should be discouraged by the community. I've noticed you were going around and telling people that 'it wasn't Reeealy doxing'. So what if it wasn't? It was still 100% faggotry straight off of reddit and it is designed to isolate someone and drive them away which effectively silences them. That is reddit cancer too. Perhaps I am incorrect but it appears to me that you are completely brushing off that side of the problem as a total non-concern.
How many times does this shit have to happen? Stonetoss came to his senses about not being a faggot mod but it was too late even though he changed his mind and came around after an hour or so but even then it was too late and he was run off. WatchPeopleDie were run off, not that I really care for that content at all. How is this in any way good for Voat? Don't you think the community should step in and discourage that kind of behavior from the main perpetrators? Seems like it would be easy enough to stop if anyone wanted to. That's not what happens though.
Is that what you want for Voat? A small pack of people running around and deciding who and what should or should not be allowed to exist on Voat? I don't want that. That's fucked up. People who do that are fucked up. The people doing it seem perfectly fine with it. Other people seem to tacitly approve of it even if they don't actively participate.
It's also disingenuous to call srayzie a 'cancer mod'. She absolutely made mistakes. Everybody in this whole shit show has made mistakes. She also tried rectify them when they happened. This stuff has been going on for a long time. Even before the Q people showed up she was dealing with dickheads and death threats from pizzagate. It was probably the exact same dickheads that ultimately made her snap 9 months later.
VoatsNewfag ago
Call it severe targeted harassment and demand rules against that.
But not doxing.
She used her face as her profile picture on multiple websites with her voat username.
Why do so very few people use their face as a profile picture on youtube, bitchute and twitter?
What is the purpose of a profile picture?
SandHog ago
This isn't about that at all. It's about people actively subverting Voat right now. If srayzie and shizy are the same person I'll eat my hat.
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3250412/
heygeorge ago
I was not talking about srayz.
Stonetoss reversed course, but then turned tail and left. I’m not even sure where he went off to. I hardly recall watchpeopledie being run off. Maybe they never really settled in?
I can’t (and you can’t, and putts can’t, and crensch can’t) make the Voat community do much of anything.
I think it’s important to not let a falsehood like that weave its way into the narrative of What Really Happened. Srayz wasn’t found. She doesn’t have to move. No one’s calling her on the phone. There are probably only a handful of people on here who know her real name. And no one shared that. There was no dox. The narrative should not read that Voat sanctioned something like this.
Plenty of people are concerned and talking about lots of other points you bring up. But that part was (and probably still is) being left to slide by.
I did what I could to advise srayz when she asked. I did the same when she feared dox attempts in the past, and so have others like expie.
Not every time. Kev gets slammed constantly but just that sort of bogeyman, and that asshole keeps his shit together. The system subverses live on as well. Why do you think that is?
I don’t even remember the number of times users have systematically tried to drive me off Voat. It hasn’t worked. Some of my friends and some of Voat’s finest content contributors were driven off. And you’re right, it does suck. It’s terrible.
The problem with fighting this is multi-faceted. Very simply, you don’t put out a fire with more fire. This is precisely the metaphor Crensch has been using. It will not work.
SandHog ago
I never did learn where Stonetoss went. I tried putting out that fire but it was too late. I'm not really sure what happened with the watchpeopledie. There was some fight over one of the existing mods here was also a mod at reddit. I think they ended up over at said.it or somewhere. Part of the problem seems to be that new people just simply aren't given enough time to figure out what the hell is going on and how serious a mistake they are making is. About the time they do figure it out it's already too late.
Agreed. It should also be noted that, in fairness sake, it was taken too far and I suspect @Trigglypuff agrees otherwise I don't think she would have said she was sorry in Putt's 'wild west' thread. I think people should try to keep in keep in mind that just because you can go too far you probably shouldn't. Otherwise we just end up with everyone pissed off at each other and even worse, Putt might feel he has to get involved and I don't think anyone wants that to happen. He'd probably just fuck it up more if he did, anyway. All that is easier said than done when you're pissed off though.
I did the same. I think she just got wore down over time and was at the end of her rope. That said she has as much guilt in all of this as anyone.
Resiliency and a commitment to what Voat stands for, I expect. As for the system subverses I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Because they are essentially unmoderated and everyone respects them? That seems like a pretty good example of how things should work given that they are basically policed by the community. Maybe if Voat wasn't so small shitpost onslaughts would be spread out more and not cause nearly the fallout since the same subs wouldn't constantly be targeted. I dunno.
I'm sure I have participated in one or two undeserved ones myself simply because I was working off of incomplete or bad information or the person just pissed me off. Once those things get rolling they tend to get out of control rather quickly as more people get involved and old grudges spring up.
Yeah, I think you are probably right.
heygeorge ago
I believe the internet rule is ‘lurk moar fagget’. For good or ill, Voaters are very protective of the atmosphere around here.
I don’t think she wanted to cause Putts the headaches and drama. Most of us don’t. Some users do want to harass and malign putts at any pass they can.
I imagine she’ll make peace with it. Or maybe she really is shizy (I don’t think so, but I’ve been wrong before!)
Yes, for the most part. I believe this is due in many ways to the fact there is not a head moderator creating a cult of personality around themselves.
The friends/posters I’m thinking of were driven off or wandered away long before you got here.
Voat is the Wild West!
SandHog ago
I don't think so either. I never understood why some of them seem to want to shit on him all the time.
Haha, I'm pretty sure she isn't. That would be kind of a mind-bender though.
That's an interesting point.
Yippee ki yi yay
VicariousJambi ago
And?
VicariousJambi ago
Thats not correct
https://voat.co/help/useragreement
sguevar ago
Interesting post thank for the read.
zyklon_b ago
its ok for srayzie to do it eh?
70times7 ago
Just nuke the 10 accounts or so that cause all the trouble site wide.
Problem solved.
You all talk so tough, pretending to be powerful aryan masters of your domain, yet cry like women any chance you get.
All these whiners are most certainly tavistock jews or goy slaves with peanut brains.
Quick and painless. Just put the poor creatures out of their misery Putt
Really. @puttitout
T1tus ago
The Destroyers are Reddits paid mods here causing shit and posting garbage that they can strawman us and divide us
The Exact same Tactics were used to oust the original The_Donald mods and gain control of that sub.
gabara ago
If @srayzie is to get a pussy pass, shouldn't @trigglypuff too?
Nosferatjew ago
If I choose to identify as a woman, can I also get a pussy pass?
zyklon_b ago
congrats
gabara ago
YES!