In the archive @Crensch posted above (http://archive.is/q0f2S) you say in a comment that you would systematically upvoat all comments by EffYouJohnPodesta. This counts as 'upvoat brigading', and isn't allowed on Voat - users are meant to upvoat comments and submissions they actually like due to their content, not because they want to give the user in question more CCP / SCP.
Since EsotericShade was called out for running several alts and systematically upvoat and downvoat brigading with them, @Crensch took the liberty to point out that your behaviour also does not comply with the Voat rules.
Do you not know how archives work? I see that you deleted your comment. But my Archive of that link which is also posted above shows exactly that you shows that you know exactly what's going on and that you absolutely do have comments on the subject.
She certainly isn't Esoteric, @Crensch. I guess she wasn't aware that constantly upvoating someone systematically isn't allowed here. I'm guessing further that she was pi**ed off that EYJP (= a female user) was called 'cunt' and that that was the reason she upvoated her.
Thanks Think. I'm not a she but you are right about the verbal abuse thing. I don't systematically upvote but I try to support my peers here. That being said, I know nothing about this issue here. Appreciate you thx
Sorry, thought you were a woman when you recently complained about women being called 'whores' and 'cunts'.
I don't systematically upvote but I try to support my peers here.
It's fine when you upvoat a bunch of comments a buddy wrote, and you do it because you liked the comments. But as I said, systematically upvoating someone in order to give them more CCP is not allowed. So don't make it a habit. Ok? ;-)
I'll go to Splash my face with some cold water For now. My issue with this user has gone from admitting to being part of a brigade to lying about admitting it and lying about knowing what's going on.
I agree that deleting the comment and then saying they made no comments is sketchy. I'd like to hear the true explanation for that.
However, I tend to agree with @think- in this case, Crensch. @3141592653 has always been a pretty decent contributor and doesn't generally do anything harmful that I've seen. They post a lot on v/pizzagatewhatever when stuff isn't about "elite" pedos, even though it gets fewer eyeballs. I don't recall ever seeing them join in mod bashing.
A lot of the folks here don't have an old goat understanding of the problem with brigading and vote manipulation. Many came from Reddit, where it was practically essential to do that shit to get any visibility at all for posts, because of all the nefarious suppression that goes on over there. They came here, but many of them never assimilated to the Voat culture, and hardly go outside of v/pizzagate because it's the only thing they are here for (and they got hazed pretty badly when they first arrived).
I also think that we should be careful about nuking legit users who got caught up in Esoteric's puppet brigade. The whole point of his operation was to frame himself as a v/pizzagate defender. He groomed a lot of people individually in private and in public to establish that image. If we assume they are all his alts, we will simply fulfill his goal of destroying trust in the community and all our efforts to document his malicious work will be for nothing.
p.s. my intention here is to help enable the open platform here. I understand crensch has contributed and done hard work, has good intentions, yet crensch causes hoards of goats to disengage from voat all together.
Stupid prick. This is a place where opinions can be shared even if authoritarian cucks think you don't belong.
Notice how you're active just as ESOTERICshade gets destroyed. You don't belong, because you're either of his group, or you are him. Either way, nobody believes your narrative anymore.
You are correct, apparently wasn't available in my region, changed locations and POW- I was proven wrong. You are so brilliant....
Eat a dick.
None of my family is Jewish or was Jewish. You are a race baiting divisive cuck. I think your a Democrat.
You're*
And you act like your family has Jew in it, so maybe if you're really not, you should do some soul searching and try to act like a human.
Was this your intention, you fucking shill forum manipulator? sounds like you have an agenda. I will stand my ground, and attempt to shine l light on this festering wound here in voat known as Crensch.
Thanks. Didn't intend to hand out left-handed insults, LOL. Crensch, think-, Eric and I have been in serious watchdog mode since it became clear EsotericShade was running a malicious operation using a bunch of alts to astroturf v/pizzagate and keep users from discussing certain topics. You can lurk my recent comment history for a few comments giving a brief rundown, if you care.
Sorry to hear about the deaths in your family. :-( Been through that...it really sucks.
When I went to that first link, I did not see any comment from me. Thus my statement. Now with more explanation and going to the archive link, I remember my original comment. Which was pretty harmless and certainly not part of some organised brigade.
Now I see. Yes I did delete that comment a few days ago once I realised there is some bigger issue/argument going on here. That being said, I am dealing with two sudden close deaths in the family and have no knowledge of and honestly no interest in whatever this whole deal is about
You think you could confirm that you got what I said about systematically giving people CCP is not allowed on Voat? That would be terrific. :-) Thanks.
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Crensch ago
And @Piscina https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2767239/14281181
Crensch ago
Oh, and @3141592653 is in on it, too.
3141592653 ago
No clue what you're talking about
Crensch ago
The upvote Brigade linked above, you mathematically illiterate faggot.
3141592653 ago
I know nothing about this conflict. You have a great day too, thanks
think- ago
Translation:
In the archive @Crensch posted above (http://archive.is/q0f2S) you say in a comment that you would systematically upvoat all comments by EffYouJohnPodesta. This counts as 'upvoat brigading', and isn't allowed on Voat - users are meant to upvoat comments and submissions they actually like due to their content, not because they want to give the user in question more CCP / SCP.
Since EsotericShade was called out for running several alts and systematically upvoat and downvoat brigading with them, @Crensch took the liberty to point out that your behaviour also does not comply with the Voat rules.
Crensch ago
Do you not know how archives work? I see that you deleted your comment. But my Archive of that link which is also posted above shows exactly that you shows that you know exactly what's going on and that you absolutely do have comments on the subject.
http://archive.is/L0lJU
@vindicator @think-
3141592653 ago
I know nothing about this conflict. I am supportive of my colleagues here
Crensch ago
Looks like esoteric trying for some damage control
think- ago
She certainly isn't Esoteric, @Crensch. I guess she wasn't aware that constantly upvoating someone systematically isn't allowed here. I'm guessing further that she was pi**ed off that EYJP (= a female user) was called 'cunt' and that that was the reason she upvoated her.
(Trying to translate between you guys.)
@3141592653
3141592653 ago
Thanks Think. I'm not a she but you are right about the verbal abuse thing. I don't systematically upvote but I try to support my peers here. That being said, I know nothing about this issue here. Appreciate you thx
think- ago
Sorry, thought you were a woman when you recently complained about women being called 'whores' and 'cunts'.
It's fine when you upvoat a bunch of comments a buddy wrote, and you do it because you liked the comments. But as I said, systematically upvoating someone in order to give them more CCP is not allowed. So don't make it a habit. Ok? ;-)
@Crensch
think- ago
@Vindicator: please see parent above.
3141592653 ago
think- ago
Ok, that's great. Much appreciated (both 1 and 2).
All the best to you too, @3141592653. Please keep up the good work.
@Crensch: Please see parent.
3141592653 ago
Thank you much. FTR, I have always appreciated you and Vindicator
think- ago
Welcome, @3141592653, and thank you. :-)
Looking forward to new contributions to v/pizzagate by you. :-)
@Vindicator
Crensch ago
FTR?
Vindicator ago
I think she means "for the record".
Crensch ago
That's a new one on me. Entirely plausible explanation. Accepted.
think- ago
That's how I read it as well. ;-)
Crensch ago
I'll go to Splash my face with some cold water For now. My issue with this user has gone from admitting to being part of a brigade to lying about admitting it and lying about knowing what's going on.
think- ago
Thank you, @Crensch. Much appreciated. User is a longtime Pizzagater, a good researcher, and never struck me as being shillish before.
think- ago
@Vindicator: Please see parent.
Crensch ago
http://archive.is/q0f2S
Explain this.
3141592653 ago
Just did. I'm busy saving kids and burying loved ones. I support my peers. No clue what this whole debate is about . I'm not part of it
Crensch ago
Lying about not knowing what's going on here. Not a good look.
Vindicator ago
I agree that deleting the comment and then saying they made no comments is sketchy. I'd like to hear the true explanation for that.
However, I tend to agree with @think- in this case, Crensch. @3141592653 has always been a pretty decent contributor and doesn't generally do anything harmful that I've seen. They post a lot on v/pizzagatewhatever when stuff isn't about "elite" pedos, even though it gets fewer eyeballs. I don't recall ever seeing them join in mod bashing.
A lot of the folks here don't have an old goat understanding of the problem with brigading and vote manipulation. Many came from Reddit, where it was practically essential to do that shit to get any visibility at all for posts, because of all the nefarious suppression that goes on over there. They came here, but many of them never assimilated to the Voat culture, and hardly go outside of v/pizzagate because it's the only thing they are here for (and they got hazed pretty badly when they first arrived).
I also think that we should be careful about nuking legit users who got caught up in Esoteric's puppet brigade. The whole point of his operation was to frame himself as a v/pizzagate defender. He groomed a lot of people individually in private and in public to establish that image. If we assume they are all his alts, we will simply fulfill his goal of destroying trust in the community and all our efforts to document his malicious work will be for nothing.
Crensch ago
I'll trust my mods and back off of this user for now.
jangles ago
The detector is picking up a reading...
Crensch ago
@think-
jangles ago
@kevdude @putitout @Atko @srayzie
Crensch encouraging open forum
Kind Regards --- Jangles
p.s. my intention here is to help enable the open platform here. I understand crensch has contributed and done hard work, has good intentions, yet crensch causes hoards of goats to disengage from voat all together.
srayzie ago
What do you mean? People leaving pizzagate because of @Crensch?
I think he’s very well liked. Maybe not on this subverse. That’s because you would not believe the bullshit he has to deal with.
Crensch ago
You Jews are so low IQ it's hilarious. There's no chance of any of you blending in here.
http://archive.is/hZjUo
Way to out yourself as NOT one of us.
jangles ago
Obviously I am not advocating to be like you. Your link is dead, kindly repost your allegations. I will state my position and defend my honor.
Crensch ago
You're trying to act like you belong here.
My link is just fine.
Jews have no honor.
jangles ago
Stupid prick. This is a place where opinions can be shared even if authoritarian cucks think you don't belong.
You are correct, apparently wasn't available in my region, changed locations and POW- I was proven wrong. You are so brilliant....
None of my family is Jewish or was Jewish. You are a race baiting divisive cuck. I think your a Democrat.
Crensch ago
Notice how you're active just as ESOTERICshade gets destroyed. You don't belong, because you're either of his group, or you are him. Either way, nobody believes your narrative anymore.
Eat a dick.
You're*
And you act like your family has Jew in it, so maybe if you're really not, you should do some soul searching and try to act like a human.
jangles ago
Was this your intention, you fucking shill forum manipulator? sounds like you have an agenda. I will stand my ground, and attempt to shine l light on this festering wound here in voat known as Crensch.
jangles ago
Beep bop er op
;get request (act like a human)
-error-
No need to be full of hate.
Crensch ago
@vindicator
think- ago
Thank you.
@Vindicator
Vindicator ago
Thanks, Crensch
3141592653 ago
Please see my explanation just posted. Thx
Vindicator ago
Thanks. Didn't intend to hand out left-handed insults, LOL. Crensch, think-, Eric and I have been in serious watchdog mode since it became clear EsotericShade was running a malicious operation using a bunch of alts to astroturf v/pizzagate and keep users from discussing certain topics. You can lurk my recent comment history for a few comments giving a brief rundown, if you care.
Sorry to hear about the deaths in your family. :-( Been through that...it really sucks.
3141592653 ago
Much appreciated
think- ago
Thank you, Vin.
think- ago
Ok, I can see where you are coming from. Please see his comment below, he says that he indeed deleted the comment.
I think I have made it clear to him that he can't systematically upvoat buddies (like EYJP).
@3141592653
3141592653 ago
When I went to that first link, I did not see any comment from me. Thus my statement. Now with more explanation and going to the archive link, I remember my original comment. Which was pretty harmless and certainly not part of some organised brigade.
think- ago
It's ok, @ 3141592653, I believe you. Stray strong.
3141592653 ago
You're The best
think- ago
;-)
3141592653 ago
Now I see. Yes I did delete that comment a few days ago once I realised there is some bigger issue/argument going on here. That being said, I am dealing with two sudden close deaths in the family and have no knowledge of and honestly no interest in whatever this whole deal is about
think- ago
Sorry about that, @3141592653. My sympathies.
You think you could confirm that you got what I said about systematically giving people CCP is not allowed on Voat? That would be terrific. :-) Thanks.
@Crensch
3141592653 ago
Yes, I understand and will not do that. And thank you. Its been extremely difficult
think- ago
Yes, I can imagine. To loose two people at the same time must be terrible.