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go1dfish ago

If no government is threatening @puttitout for the content it shouldn't be removed.

The ability of governments and gatekeepers to threaten puttitout in demand for content restriction is why Voat is not sustainable in its current form.

Today the offensive material may be Jailbait, tomorrow it may be calls for Jewish boycotts.

Be careful what you wish for.

http://archive.is/BXKtp

I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug – that we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other. And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent, we should fight back – both politically through protest and technologically through software like Tor

—Aaron Swartz

Edit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/pmj7f/a_necessary_change_in_policy/

We understand that this might make some of you worried about the slippery slope from banning one specific type of content to banning other types of content. We're concerned about that too, and do not make this policy change lightly or without careful deliberation. We will tirelessly defend the right to freely share information on reddit in any way we can, even if it is offensive or discusses something that may be illegal. However, child pornography is a toxic and unique case for Internet communities, and we're protecting reddit's ability to operate by removing this threat. We remain committed to protecting reddit as an open platform.

JohnCStevenson ago

If no government is threatening @puttitout for the content it shouldn't be removed.

Well, this is about to happen soon. I've reported Voat to the FBI for @Aged actions. Hopefully @PuttItOut has a good lawyer, or he'll be serving a long time in prison.

If your free speech site attracts pedophiles from all over, then ask yourself if free speech is truly worth it.

maggiethatcher ago

Of course you're supporting the pedophiles, just like your party is - 'member of the #resistance' big man. You think the FBI isn't already here? The far-left like you are vile, the only way you know is to shut people down because you can never win an argument. It's pathetic. We all know who is behind the globalist pedophile trafficking, and it's not Voat or this sub

Memorexem ago

reported to the FBI

Oh really, you don't say. I suppose they've nothing better to do than check out Voat over a couple model photos. It's not like there's real CP a few clicks away or anything.

Talc ago

What sort of country puts people in prison for other people's actions? only an imaginary one, you're letting your delusions run away with you.

serious question, why isn't @JohnCStevenson banned yet? He's just broken both the "keep everyone safe" and "incite harm" rules and is now here bragging about it!

go1dfish ago

I'm probably one of the least likely among us to call for banning people.

But calling in the State absolutely fits my definition of "incite harm" does very little to "keep everyone safe"

If we made a consistent habit of banning Voaters for calling in the State on fellow Voaters I would be perfectly ok with that.

Unfortunately, such a policy is only really enforceable for douchebags like this who announce that they have done so in an attempt to instill fear and chill speech. Even so, might be worth exploring.

Talc ago

I've only ever seriously called for the banning of pure commercial spammers before this (sure I suggested banning sanegoat and amalek in the past but only to yank their puppetstrings), but this is beyond mere "incite harm", this is an attempt to use law enforcement as a weapon and cause real harm. It's the difference between threatening "i'll shoot you" with no gun in evidence, and actually pulling out a gun and taking aim.

If we made a consistent habit of banning Voaters for calling in the State on fellow Voaters I would be perfectly ok with that.

me too, I could get behind that. Nation states are the most prolific murderers on the planet, should not be casually tossed around as a weapon.

9930105? ago

Any open board is in danger of this happening, anything illegal is removed asap.

shutupfaggot ago

(((Faggõt)))

go1dfish ago

Can you point to the illegal material Voat is hosting?

AFAIK Voat does not support uploading images by users at all.

If Voat is doing something illegal by linking to illegal material, are you not also doing something illegal by linking to it when reporting?

If you encountered illegal material on Voat, how did you verify that it is illegal without downloading it yourself?

CP possession is a strict liability crime, be careful.

WakkoWarner ago

I fully agree. We shouldn't let crybabies start their censoring jihad about what they consider offensive here on Voat. If their country has dumb laws that condemns content that didn't harm anyone they should man up and openly fight them instead than supporting and perpetrating them.