I just spent a few days dissecting his utterly irrational form of argument in a comment thread. I did it originally as a form of trolling/entertainment. Initially i had assumed he was just a troll or an insanely paranoid person. But upon further discussion with him i have come to believe strongly that he is a shill attempting to disrupt the community by sowing distrust and strife among those of us here. If you are bored, like REALLY BORED, take a look at his and my comments in this thread. WARNING. this is a multi-day comment thread. i do not bore easily and i hate irrational cunts and shills a lot. https://voat.co/v/politics/1884872/9259040/10#9259040
The thread started because Tallest_Skil decided to adamantly claim that someone was a shill, someone who seemed to make a fair point. I replied that i didnt think making a fair point was proof someone was a shill. The resulting tirade against me from Tallest_Skil is what made me start to question the legitimacy of the account.
If you are bored, or want a nice breakdown of some really manipulative argument methods, take a look at the thread. I truly believe he is a shill here to cause strife. He could also easily just be a completely paranoid retard. But his "Misinterpret and Respond to the Misinterpretation" technique, as i have come to know it, where he removes all meaningful arguments and points from your statement with his misinterpretation and then responds to his own misinterpreted statement instead of yours is EXTREMELY MANIPULATIVE and strikes me very very much as something a shill would use to attempt to deflect from the truth without addressing it.
My only reason for posting this is to attempt to mitigate the damage that he might cause running around accusing people of being shills. That and to mitigate the amount of time that any other person might waste attempting to understand WTF is wrong with this retard. Would love to hear any other opinions or experiences with this fuck nut. Maybe im totally off base, but if he isnt a shill, he is totally fucking insane. that much i am 100% certain of. lol.
EDIT* here is a comment farther down in the thread, in this comment and especially immediately after it (in 3 comments all replied to a single comment of his) i actually start to break down the methods he is using in his responses to ignore any points made by anyone without actually having to legitimately address those points.
https://voat.co/v/politics/1884872/9361420/10#9361420
EDIT #2
Fucking redundant title. I guess ive stayed up a little too late playing cat and mouse with this shill cunt. Must be getting tired.
EDIT #3
I started using his "Misinterpret and Respond" technique about half way through because its the only fucking way to get a word in with the cunt because it is a manipulative method of argument that forces your point while ignoring theirs and the only way to make progress against someone using it is to use it against them. But unlike him i constantly make real points while using his nonsensical technique instead of just spouting off nonsense. So its an adaptation of his methods that can only be used when you arent a disruptive shill that is deliberately trying to avoid the truth or rational arguments in any way. But yeah, wanted to explain why you will see me doing that god awful misinterpret and respond shit. i fucking hate it. But hes difficult to make headway against otherwise.
TLDR; @Tallest_Skil is a manipulative cunt who argues in the most despicable and irrational of ways. I believe he is a shill attempting to sow discord among the users of voat.
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Tallest_Skil ago
I realize that it’s impossible for you–a person who has sold his ideological presence to the highest bidder–to comprehend the concept of morality and a higher calling, but for those you’re trying to infect with this bullshit (thanks for linking all the proof needed to out you as a shill, by the way), I’d like to call out your initial response, yet again, and question why you even replied to the faggot who thinks that morals don’t exist if you hadn’t yourself sold your children (or equivalent) down the river in the past. It wouldn’t matter to you unless you are A. that user on another account or B. a paid shill.
By calling people to hold truth above all else and to not be cowed by threats against you for saying truth. Right, because that’s what shills do, isn’t it?
Irony.
It’s called a strawman, dipshit. You’re well acquainted with all the forms of logical fallacy. You can’t hide it behind faux ignorance at this point.
I’d put that at a 5 by 5.
You mean like you did when I asked why you’d even defend the faggot who thinks that morals don’t exist? Again, either you sold your children (or equivalent) down the river in the past, are that user on another account or are a paid shill. It’s not that simple to comprehend. And yet you refuse to answer the question. Hmm.
You’re a shill. I drew you out to show everyone that you’re a shill. You got no words in. Well, no words for which you weren’t PAID, at least. That much is blatantly obvious. You’re a fucking nutcase.
Translation: WAAAAAA MOMMY THE GUY WHO HAS ACTUALLY READ THE COINTELPRO PLAYBOOK FOUND ME OUUUUUUUT! NOT FAIR!
Fun fact, dipshit. Projecting what you’re doing onto others only works when we don’t know that it’s how you operate. And the best part? Telling you this isn’t actually helping you be a better shill, because you will NEVER IMPROVE FROM THIS FORMULA.
Reported for fucking libel.
markrod420 ago
Okay, your first point. Somehow you have decided that your "higher calling" makes your nonsensical form of argument valid. It doesnt. You still remove all content from your opponents statements and then reply to a watered down version of their statements. Thats not a valid form of argument. As for why i responded to the original comment, its because i saw you screaming "SHILL" at everyone in sight and decided that you were the most likely shill i could see. So i decided to fuck with you and investigate further. It was never about defending the original comment, or even caring about it. It was always just about you because the things you say and the way you say them are so excessively irrational that i had to assume you were a shill because very few people are that crazy and have access to the internet.
Your second point. No, i agree with calling people to hold truth above all else. I do not agree with running around screaming shill at everyone and then disregarding any and all replies and just continuing to scream shill at them. As far as i can tell thats not holding truth above all else because you are irrationally disregarding any and all information that does not fit with your assumptions.
Your methods of arguing are excessively manipulative. I have broken them down in so many places, including in this post, that i wont bother to do that again. But yes, your excessively manipulative methods of argument. They are very plain to see for any rational person.
Your next point. I only began ignoring your points after you ignored DOZENS of points from me and i gave up on trying to give you enough respect to have a real conversation. Basically once i came to the full conclusion that you are a raging shill. Again this is very evident in the comment history i have linked.
Your next point. You drew me out, amusing. This isnt really a point. Its more of a dick size competition and i am uninterested. But im not a shill. So you definitely didnt show anyone anything. Also the slowly massing number of downvoats against you tells me that its quite obvious to everyone else who the shill here is... okay i guess i will participate in the dick size competition, since im winning that too.
Your last point. Im skipping the random all caps insult and moving to the actual point after it. You claim i am projecting what i do onto others. But if anyone goes and looks at the comment thread between us they will see the numerous times where i clearly cited you doing that. Such as demanding citation from me while literally saying to me "you have been outed as a shill, i wont say how" and also while accusing me of being flustered while clearly growing flustered yourself. Accusing me of making "no argument" while providing nothing but insults and misinterpretations for dozens of comments at a time. I think it is PAINFULLY obvious which of us is projecting our actions onto others to anyone other than you apparently.
As for your "reported for fucking libel" point... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Tallest_Skil ago
Learn what truth is.
You mean context, and no.
Said the paid shill.
You didn’t see that.
You were wrong, though. Why not just get over it, you autistic faggot?
And reported. Thanks for admitting to spam.
Zero evidence.
Proven false by your self-admitted behaviors.
Zero evidence.
Sure you have. Whatever you say, kiddo.
Right, and since you’re not rational, you can’t see what they actually say.
blah blah “it wasn’t me” blah blah “you did it first because i say so” blah blah Why would I give a shill the time of day?
You posted no points. After multiple direct confrontations on this matter, you posted no points. You have admitted that nothing you said had anything to do with the topic. You are a shill.
Again, thanks for discrediting yourself.
Says the faggot who was so autistically butt-blasted he made his own thread whining about being called out as a shill, even after he himself personally admits to behaving as shills do.
Keep saying it. Someone must believe you eventually!
“WAAAAAAAAA MOMMY MY REDDIT APPEAL TO MAJORITY MEANS YOU’RE WROOOOOOOOOOOOONG!”
Holy fuck, I was joking about the autism before, but I guess I was right.
See, this lets people know that you’re mentally ill. You can’t even fathom that there might be a reason you were mocked in this specific way.
...exactly what I said. Thanks for disproving yourself.
Reported.
markrod420 ago
Also, please keep saying you are reporting me. More than any of your irrational shit that one really makes me laugh. like really hard. we are on voat, the least regulated forum on the fucking internet. There is nothing to report me for you shill. And we are using an anonymous message board. I cant commit libel against your anonymous internet persona you fucking insane moron. So please, say you are reporting me again. its so much funnier than every other piece of nonsense you spout off because its just SO FUCKING IRRATIONAL. Cmon, say it again, please. Here i will slander you some more so you can report me to the Delaware internet libel commission you cock juggling sand nigger loving baby raping cunt.
Tallest_Skil ago
Talk about being sheltered.
Because you say so.
Because you say so.
Because you say so.
Because you say so.
Learn what words mean before you use them, shill.
markrod420 ago
Okay the least regulated one that has a functioning interface i can stand. Lol so funny when you fall back to nonsense and repitition because you are retarded. You didnt threaten to report me again. Im sad now :(
Tallest_Skil ago
You're both a goldmine of comedy and a look into the horrors of modern autism.
markrod420 ago
Oh snap. Someone created a version of you to come and talk shit to you. So meta. Such amuze. Much lulz
taIIest_skiI ago
Drown yourself in semen.
markrod420 ago
Rofl!! Nice
Dukeofboot ago
Four hour old account, first post is them trying to report someone as a shill.
Hmmmmm...
markrod420 ago
Its a parody of @Tallest_Skil. Hes not serious.
Dukeofboot ago
Go look at tallest_skil's profile.
markrod420 ago
Do you get what im saying now? The upper case one is a troll or shill that has existed for 2 years (or bought a 2 year old account) the lower case one was created by someone to fuck with the upper case one because he is an irrational shill. The lower case one is just repeating the upperbcase ones nonsense back to yhe upper case one.
markrod420 ago
There are two. @Tallest_Skil and @tallest_skil. The lowe case one was created to mock the upper case one. Who is a troll or shill. The lower case one is definitely just a troll.
Dukeofboot ago
Ah, yeah, I gotcha.
markrod420 ago
Yeah it fooled me at first too. Accidentally started tslking shit to the parody account. Rofl.
Dukeofboot ago
I mean, the very first comment of their brand new account was calling for a ban of an op with a two year old account. I've seen shills do the same thing before, so, I hoped over here not knowing wanting to call their ass out. Top knotch troll, if indeed it was.
markrod420 ago
Is definitely a troll. Idk who it is. But theres no way its a legit account. As a person who just spent like 5 days arguing with the 2 year old account who is a shill or troll, that new account is definitely parodying the 2 year one. And only comments to the 2 year old account.