I'm one of "them" and I would have to disagree. Without mods the shit posters would be flooding the sub with garbage posts (like MOD insert_name_here IS A SHILL!!!!!11!!!!!). That happens now but the crap gets deleted. I can't think of how many times I've gone into a thread and asked the question "What does this have to do with pizzagate?" And I ONLY did that when the posts were anything BUT related to pizzagate. I stopped frequenting the sub because I think there is way too many shit posts now. I can't imagine how bad it would be without mods keeping it clean.
I get what you're saying and I've been vocal about a few posts that got deleted for what I consider petty reasons, but the mods have a tough job and are doing what they think is best. If anybody sees a specific mod that seems to be trying to derail or kill the sub, report it and make it known in /pizzagatewhatever and /protectvoat and we'll get it taken care of.
Without mods the shit posters would be flooding the sub with garbage posts
And how do you not know that its the mods that are the ones with multiple accounts shitposting?...Then they would make themselves look good by deleting their own shitposting threads and leave the garbage up and THEY DO have multiple accounts...
One pizzagate mod was caught upvoting himself 32 times from his own computer...
How do any of us know that the few people trying to get rid of mods aren't the shit posters? Nothing would make their job easier than getting rid of the few people with the power to keep them in check. In fact, I assume that everybody trying to get rid of a mod is doing so for that purpose.
One pizzagate mod was caught upvoting himself 32 times from his own computer...
Oh, you mean on that site that has nothing to do with this one? Anything to do with Reddit is irrelevant in this discussion. The pieces of shit from that site have no relevance here. Are you certain that the mods here have the same permissions as over there? Are they the same people?
Look, I'm not a mod (nor a shill). I'm just trying to be rational here. Mods are a necessity, especially in controversial subs. There's WAY too much shitposting (some for the sake of trolling and some because many people are idiots, despite their good intentions). PERSONALLY, I'd probably delete far more threads than what the mods do now because I get sick of seeing the exact same content posted over and over as new threads because the mope posting it didn't bother to search and they somehow think they were the first ones to discover that youtube video from 5 months ago. I'm all for free speech and I'd probably lobby to change or ease the rules a bit, but trash needs to be taken out and shit needs to be flushed immediately before the whole place starts to stink.
Saying that u/down voats self-manages the sub is a pipe dream and quite frankly screws me personally. I ONLY browse subs by NEW sort order so if some lunkhead shitposts a couple dozen in a row, I would have to wade through pages of garbage to find legitimate content. Fuck that. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
So tell me, how do we know that the people requesting to eliminate the mods aren't Reddit trolls looking to destroy the sub?
Oh, you mean on that site that has nothing to do with this one? Anything to do with Reddit is irrelevant in this discussion.
I think you will have to look a little closer at the links again...The mods from reddit migrated to v/pizzagate including the one with all the alternate accounts so he is still a mod on v/pizzagate with a bunch of his alts. The mods on reddit told everyone to migrate to v/pizzagate before reddit ceo spez deleted the sub on reddit because they completely controlled it.
So tell me, how do we know that the people requesting to eliminate the mods aren't Reddit trolls looking to destroy the sub?
You dont...but we seen how these mods work on v/pizzagate and how these same mods worked on r/pizzagate before it was deleted and they suck. So its time for a change. It likely wont happen but it should.
Do you realize since I wrote that last comment that no less than THREE posts have been posted (and deleted) in /Pizzagate calling the mods shills? All have the exact same title but posted from three different accounts. Without mods, that shit will get worse.
That being said, I'm all for dumping mods who have proven themselves to be worthless cunts like pizzathrowaway777 appears to have been on Reddit. Thanks for the mod comparison, I honestly didn't know. And I swear I'm not trying to be a confrontational prick. So if I'm reading it correctly, kingkongwaswrong is the supermod with the power to remove mod permissions, correct? I don't know him any more than I know you but I have had a couple back and forths with him and he seems legit. He's the ticket to getting rid of the shill mods, which is in his best interest as well. If he doesn't, the sub will die and the users will migrate to a different one.
Do you realize since I wrote that last comment that no less than THREE posts have been posted (and deleted) in /Pizzagate calling the mods shills? All have the exact same title but posted from three different accounts. Without mods, that shit will get worse.
Like I said before it could be the mods doing it to look legit.
he seems legit
kingkongwaswrong added rogue mod numbchuck who if he wasnt caught by kevdude in time would have done even greater damage to the sub;
All mods that kingkongwaswrong added should be removed immediately and all mods that were added from the mods he added should also be removed and his "owner" privileges revoked.
Hmmm... shit. I take back just about everything I said. I still think we need mods to clear out the shitposts regularly but I no longer have any faith in the mods we currently have. Sadly, I'm not aware of any way to remove all of them other than just saying fuck this sub and start or move to another one. I naively thought the mods here had the best intentions and now I have no clue why they are mods or even contributors to /pizzagate. None.
I don't think there's much chance to eliminating the current mods but if you have a plan to do it, you've got my support.
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HarveyKlinger ago
I'm one of "them" and I would have to disagree. Without mods the shit posters would be flooding the sub with garbage posts (like MOD insert_name_here IS A SHILL!!!!!11!!!!!). That happens now but the crap gets deleted. I can't think of how many times I've gone into a thread and asked the question "What does this have to do with pizzagate?" And I ONLY did that when the posts were anything BUT related to pizzagate. I stopped frequenting the sub because I think there is way too many shit posts now. I can't imagine how bad it would be without mods keeping it clean.
I get what you're saying and I've been vocal about a few posts that got deleted for what I consider petty reasons, but the mods have a tough job and are doing what they think is best. If anybody sees a specific mod that seems to be trying to derail or kill the sub, report it and make it known in /pizzagatewhatever and /protectvoat and we'll get it taken care of.
redditsuckz ago
And how do you not know that its the mods that are the ones with multiple accounts shitposting?...Then they would make themselves look good by deleting their own shitposting threads and leave the garbage up and THEY DO have multiple accounts...
One pizzagate mod was caught upvoting himself 32 times from his own computer...
Pizzagate Same mods;
http://i.imgur.com/nHy8rki.jpg
32+ upvotes from SAME COMPUTER;
http://i.imgur.com/pFRftx9.png
http://i.imgur.com/mA4Iqs1.png
Too bad, they should all quit...
They are doing their best serving their elite masters by hindering investigations left and right.
HarveyKlinger ago
How do any of us know that the few people trying to get rid of mods aren't the shit posters? Nothing would make their job easier than getting rid of the few people with the power to keep them in check. In fact, I assume that everybody trying to get rid of a mod is doing so for that purpose.
Oh, you mean on that site that has nothing to do with this one? Anything to do with Reddit is irrelevant in this discussion. The pieces of shit from that site have no relevance here. Are you certain that the mods here have the same permissions as over there? Are they the same people?
Look, I'm not a mod (nor a shill). I'm just trying to be rational here. Mods are a necessity, especially in controversial subs. There's WAY too much shitposting (some for the sake of trolling and some because many people are idiots, despite their good intentions). PERSONALLY, I'd probably delete far more threads than what the mods do now because I get sick of seeing the exact same content posted over and over as new threads because the mope posting it didn't bother to search and they somehow think they were the first ones to discover that youtube video from 5 months ago. I'm all for free speech and I'd probably lobby to change or ease the rules a bit, but trash needs to be taken out and shit needs to be flushed immediately before the whole place starts to stink.
Saying that u/down voats self-manages the sub is a pipe dream and quite frankly screws me personally. I ONLY browse subs by NEW sort order so if some lunkhead shitposts a couple dozen in a row, I would have to wade through pages of garbage to find legitimate content. Fuck that. Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
So tell me, how do we know that the people requesting to eliminate the mods aren't Reddit trolls looking to destroy the sub?
redditsuckz ago
I think you will have to look a little closer at the links again...The mods from reddit migrated to v/pizzagate including the one with all the alternate accounts so he is still a mod on v/pizzagate with a bunch of his alts. The mods on reddit told everyone to migrate to v/pizzagate before reddit ceo spez deleted the sub on reddit because they completely controlled it.
Pizzagate Same mods;
http://i.imgur.com/nHy8rki.jpg
32+ upvotes from SAME COMPUTER;
http://i.imgur.com/pFRftx9.png
http://i.imgur.com/mA4Iqs1.png
You dont...but we seen how these mods work on v/pizzagate and how these same mods worked on r/pizzagate before it was deleted and they suck. So its time for a change. It likely wont happen but it should.
HarveyKlinger ago
Do you realize since I wrote that last comment that no less than THREE posts have been posted (and deleted) in /Pizzagate calling the mods shills? All have the exact same title but posted from three different accounts. Without mods, that shit will get worse.
That being said, I'm all for dumping mods who have proven themselves to be worthless cunts like pizzathrowaway777 appears to have been on Reddit. Thanks for the mod comparison, I honestly didn't know. And I swear I'm not trying to be a confrontational prick. So if I'm reading it correctly, kingkongwaswrong is the supermod with the power to remove mod permissions, correct? I don't know him any more than I know you but I have had a couple back and forths with him and he seems legit. He's the ticket to getting rid of the shill mods, which is in his best interest as well. If he doesn't, the sub will die and the users will migrate to a different one.
redditsuckz ago
Like I said before it could be the mods doing it to look legit.
kingkongwaswrong added rogue mod numbchuck who if he wasnt caught by kevdude in time would have done even greater damage to the sub;
Here is mod numbchuck going rogue;
http://archive.is/twzsl
All mods that kingkongwaswrong added should be removed immediately and all mods that were added from the mods he added should also be removed and his "owner" privileges revoked.
HarveyKlinger ago
Hmmm... shit. I take back just about everything I said. I still think we need mods to clear out the shitposts regularly but I no longer have any faith in the mods we currently have. Sadly, I'm not aware of any way to remove all of them other than just saying fuck this sub and start or move to another one. I naively thought the mods here had the best intentions and now I have no clue why they are mods or even contributors to /pizzagate. None.
I don't think there's much chance to eliminating the current mods but if you have a plan to do it, you've got my support.