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Joe_McCarthy ago

Could you at least cite some evidence. I'm always happy to hear a counter argument, but just saying 'it ain't so' isn't really an argument.

As noted in the OP and elsewhere on this thread my purpose with the opener was not to go in depth but to introduce a discussion. A thorough, in depth study of a truly reputable nature involving Jews and the American media has not been conducted as far as I know (and it certainly isn't covered by cherry-picked internet memes we see on platforms like Voat) but some effort has been made to get to the truth here and is a useful debunking of the more outlandish claims and memes:

https://jasonbayz.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/demographics-of-the-american-media-elite/comment-page-1/

There are sociological surveys related to ethnicity and occupation in the US though. Ethnic Germans make pianos. Italians fish if I remember correctly. Jews are overrepresented as media personnel and in banking. But the data I've seen shows it to be well under 50%. I recall one textbook showing Jews at about 37% of media personnel in one survey. That dovetails pretty closely with the findings of the link I posted above.

No real counter evidence

Eh, I'd think that's of a nature where the evidence would fall more on the people making the claim. 'Jews rule the world' seems pretty out there for those with an education that includes some understanding of how complex systems work. 'The world' is one of the most complex systems of all.

But as noted elsewhere on this thread Mark Weber, the Nazi leaning Holocaust revisionist, cited evidence from the 90s showing Jews made up 11% of American elites.

http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/jewishlobby.shtml

And that's the US, mind, where they are known to have a large population and significant power. Suggesting they have power surpassing this in Japan, China, India, etc., or even Europe is simply stupid. Very unlikely too is that Jews would have increased their proportion of global elites, or even American elites, since the 90s to the tune of controlling the world.

Jews ruling the world is a stupid conspiracy theory with no real evidence and with evidence even to refute it as I have just demonstrated.

Who does then??

It may come as a shock but most central banks are owned by the state as one would expect.

Not really, but I'd like to know what you are basing this argument on?

I've looked into specific lists of senior governing bodies here:

https://voat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/2113109/10419306/10

The Central Committee of the Communist Party had about 6 Jews out of 26 members and the Council of People's Commissars (state as opposed to party and the first actual government) had one Jew (Trotsky) out of about 18, for example.

Any lobbyist group exerting influence is controlling policy. So this looks like a fallacy to me.

Social Security has been called the third rail of American politics because of the power of the AARP. They in some sense control policy in that key area because there are a lot of old people they have as members (far more than Jews in terms of numbers in the US). But to say they control the US would be quite doltish. The NRA has even finished ahead of the Zionist lobby in surveys of Washington insiders regarding the power of lobby groups in the US. Does the NRA control the United States?

http://www.timewarner.com/newsroom/press-releases/1999/11/15/fortune-releases-annual-survey-of-most-powerful-lobbying

Crensch ago

Eh, I'd think that's of a nature where the evidence would fall more on the people making the claim. 'Jews rule the world' seems pretty out there for those with an education that includes some understanding of how complex systems work.

"I don't want the burden of proof, so I will shift it onto you."

Kek.

Joe_McCarthy ago

If that's what you got out of that response you're going to be even easier than I thought. With you I'm not going to hold back either.

Crensch ago

Oh, that's not all I got out of that, that's all that I care to respond to at the moment. It wasn't a response to my words, so I feel no real pressure to respond right away with a carpet-bombing of your stupidity.

Joe_McCarthy ago

From what I've seen from you you're fighting with a slingshot. After all, you just hit me with 'Ahaha. Not believing Jews rule the world makes ya dumm. Pr00ve j00z don't rule it!'

And that only after lifting part of my response where I annihilated the whole retarded idea.

Even dime store Jew haters aren't this stupid. You nutzis on 4chan, Voat, etc., occupy your own special ed class.

Crensch ago

From what I've seen from you you're fighting with a slingshot not a bomber plane.

From what I've seen, most here are pretty sure that your grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

After all, you just hit me with a taunt demanding I prove j00z don't rule the world with the strong implication that I'm the dumbass because I don't, get this, believe the world is simplified by saying Jews rule it.

Your claim is that they do not. Prove it.

And that only after lifting part of my response where I annihilated the whole retarded idea. Lulz.

If, by annihilated, you mean you showed how unequipped you are to argue your position, sure. I know you Jews like your word games.

Even dime store Jew haters at places like Stormfront aren't this ridiculous. You nutzis on 4chan, Voat, etc., occupy your own special ed class.

It's hilarious that you would claim to know such a thing; more hilarious that you think anyone here would believe you.

Joe_McCarthy ago

I know a lot of things you don't when it comes to this topic. This is like a professor teaching a freshman. You'll find out though I'm in no particular hurry to take your head off. I usually have other things to do than spend several hours in one setting responding to a blizzard of bullshit. Your blizzard of bullshit will also be addressed last. You should feel honored.

Crensch ago

I know a lot of things you don't when it comes to this topic.

Apparently, you do not.

This is like a professor teaching a freshman.

Another absurd claim you probably won't be able to support.

You'll find out though I'm in no particular hurry to take your head off.

Because you know it'll be you smelling the bitter almonds.

I usually have other things to do than spend several hours in one setting responding to a blizzard of bullshit.

Another claim I doubt is true.

Your blizzard of bullshit will also be addressed last. You should feel honored.

I'm pretty sure it will be barely addressed, if at all. You'll push claim I have the burden of proof when you do, or claim that I have not met my burden of proof to your mind, which would be moving the goalposts out of reach of literally anyone arguing against you.

You'll also claim personal knowledge of things as a source like you did here, and expect others to just accept it.

Filthy Jews can't argue with anything more than fallacies and appeals to emotion.