I'm going to try to avoid an in depth opener here but I am going to leave this stickied for us to discuss this. I've long been frustrated with the large number of people that reduce all civilizational and racial problems to Jewish plots. Some around here agree with me. Others just think I must be a Jew because I disagree with simplistic conspiracy theories.
Let's lay out some basics of what is legitimate and what is bullshit.
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Jewish media power - Jews are overrepresented in the US media yet still comprise a minority. And when people say Jews 'own' 'the media' this is the substance of it. They haven't the foggiest idea who owns the media in Germany or Switzerland.
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Jews control the world - bullshit with no real evidence.
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Rothschilds own most or all central banks - a kook theory derived from fringe sources.
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Jews ran the Soviet Union - overstated at best.
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Israel controls the United States - bullshit though the Zionist lobby has considerable power.
In my mind the most substantive criticism is that American Jews are mostly liberal and give Democrats upwards of 50% of their campaign funds in many cases.
What does this all amount to? Well, American Jews have a huge outmarriage rate. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 50%. Over the long run this will tend to dilute Jewish identity in the US and have them relate more to Gentiles. Some Jews will also start to self-deport as the alt-right gets stronger. Jews moving to Israel should generally be seen as desirable.
Notice I haven't said that pogroms are desirable though. But the gas oven set are apt to thinking my position is a 'Jewish' one. Few Jews would agree.
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ATX_1138 ago
Jews are not a minority when it comes to upper levels, though. And they are organized. Did SNL have a vote about covering Weinstein or did a single Jew, Lorne, decide to not parody him.
Jews have a homeland and are forcing you to pay for it and fight their wars. No politician even DREAMS of SUGGESTING there be a White homeland and many openly work to eliminate White countries.
Churchill (a Jew boot licker) said something pretty strong about it.
http://www.fpp.co.uk/bookchapters/WSC/WSCwrote1920.html
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd) or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.
They can attack a US naval ship and their PM can come and lecture Congress!
Joe_McCarthy ago
A study in the 90s found them to compose about 11% of American elites:
“Jews are only three percent of the nation’s population and comprise eleven percent of what this study defines as the nation’s elite. However, Jews constitute more than 25 percent of the elite journalists and publishers, more than 17 percent of the leaders of important voluntary and public interest organizations, and more than 15 percent of the top ranking civil servants.”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/jewishlobby.shtml
Of course the source cited, Prof. Benjamin Ginsberg, is a Jewish source, but he is being used here by Mark Weber, a leading Holocaust revisionist with pro-Nazi leanings, as a means to substantiate Jewish power. 11% is a minority and that Jews would have gone from that to a majority in 20 some years isn't plausible.
I disagree with the premise here. But even if true I hardly see how it substantiates that Jews control the world. As we just saw they compise 11% of American elites. That's America even - where they are known to be unusually powerful. What percentage of elites do they make up in Europe or China or Japan? The percentage is undoubtably much less. Do they control India? Brazil?
Jews ruling the world is bullshit.
Even Churchill seems to stop short of the Jewish Bolshevism claim. He just seems to draw attention to their heavy involvement in it. They were overrepresented. I go into specific numbers on this thread:
https://voat.co/v/OccidentalEnclave/2113109/10419306/10
The Central Committee of the Communist Party had 6 Jews out 26 more or less. Though one can bicker over a couple of the others. That's a minority.
The first Council of People's Commissars (state as opposed to party) had one Jew, Trotsky, out of eighteen.
The best argument for Jewish Bolshevism concerns the first politburo set up to overthrow the government. Three Jews out of seven. But as we have seen in senior ruling bodies they were a decisive minority.
And these were the early years. Jews made up less of the leadership in later years particularly after Stalin's purges. Litvinov was even removed as foreign minister under Nazi pressure.
That suggests possible influence or that the US didn't want issues over the matter for various reasons. There are alternative explanations for how we deal with Israel other than that we operate under Zionist control.
Israel would like us to recognize their occupation of the Palestinian. We don't. They regard Jerusalem as their capital. We refuse to recognize that. Why if they 'control' us?
AIPAC, the Zionist lobby in the US, has considerable lobbying strength - but in a narrow sphere revolving around foreign policy. They don't control US healthcare or energy policy. They don't even care about it really. But even here lobbies like the NRA or AARP (old folks lobby) have ranked ahead of AIPAC on lists of powerful lobby groups. Does the NRA control the US? And why would anyone assume 'control' is even reducible to lobbying? Power is diffuse and has many centers. One is the voters. Enough voters voted for Trump to put him in power. Most Jews didn't like that.
ATX_1138 ago
The only part mentioning 11 percent goes on to say....
“Jews are only three percent of the nation’s population and comprise eleven percent of what this study defines as the nation’s elite. However, Jews constitute more than 25 percent of the elite journalists and publishers, more than 17 percent of the leaders of important voluntary and public interest organizations, and more than 15 percent of the top ranking civil servants.”
From the same link: * Two well-known Jewish writers, Seymour Lipset and Earl Raab, pointed out in their book, Jews and the New American Scene: / 6 “During the last three decades Jews [in the United States] have made up 50 percent of the top two hundred intellectuals... 20 percent of professors at the leading universities ... 40 percent of partners in the leading law firms in New York and Washington ... 59 percent of the directors, writers, and producers of the 50 top-grossing motion pictures from 1965 to 1982, and 58 percent of directors, writers, and producers in two or more primetime television series.”“Hollywood at the end of the twentieth century is still an industry with a pronounced ethnic tinge. Virtually all the senior executives at the major studios are Jews. Writers, producers, and to a lesser degree directors are disproportionately Jewish -- one recent study showed the figure as high as 59 percent among top-grossing films.*
But Jews have a homeland with a rogue nuclear program while American politicans laugh at those who oppose genocide of Whites in the US. They don't need some bean-counter form of majority like you are looking for when Biden is calling himself a Zionist AND SAYING WHITES BECOMING A MINORITY IN THE US IS A GOOD THING.
We aid in them committing genocide against the Palestinians. I SMH at you folks who deny what is going on - the Palestinians are you in the future. How you can't see that is frustrating. AIPAC, the Zionist lobby in the US, has considerable lobbying strength - but in a narrow sphere revolving around foreign policy.
They are the reason for cultural marxism.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-jewish-groups-helping-muslim-refugees-accused-of-harboring-new-nazis/
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.686976
How much money does Congress give the NRA? How much does Congress give Israel. Open your eyes.
Joe_McCarthy ago
The only part? 11% is 11%. They do comprise a larger share of the entertainment industry. There is a fair bit of reputable info documenting their role in Hollywood. But 11% of the nation's elite is not Jewish domination in my book.
I see you equate Zionism with whites losing demographic power in the US. I'm unsure what to say other than to point out that it's a bit broader than Zionists are responsible for white genocide. I've articulated a bit on some of the complicated factors elsewhere on this thread. It is not reducible to Jews.
AIPAC specifically is an Israel lobby. I don't see any mention of them in those links. Even assuming I agree with the premise that Jews are uniquely responsible for refugee lobbying (they're not - not by a long shot) one cannot point at an uninvolved group and conflate them with involved groups solely because they're all Jews. That is simply shoddy reasoning.