I'm going to try to avoid an in depth opener here but I am going to leave this stickied for us to discuss this. I've long been frustrated with the large number of people that reduce all civilizational and racial problems to Jewish plots. Some around here agree with me. Others just think I must be a Jew because I disagree with simplistic conspiracy theories.
Let's lay out some basics of what is legitimate and what is bullshit.
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Jewish media power - Jews are overrepresented in the US media yet still comprise a minority. And when people say Jews 'own' 'the media' this is the substance of it. They haven't the foggiest idea who owns the media in Germany or Switzerland.
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Jews control the world - bullshit with no real evidence.
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Rothschilds own most or all central banks - a kook theory derived from fringe sources.
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Jews ran the Soviet Union - overstated at best.
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Israel controls the United States - bullshit though the Zionist lobby has considerable power.
In my mind the most substantive criticism is that American Jews are mostly liberal and give Democrats upwards of 50% of their campaign funds in many cases.
What does this all amount to? Well, American Jews have a huge outmarriage rate. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 50%. Over the long run this will tend to dilute Jewish identity in the US and have them relate more to Gentiles. Some Jews will also start to self-deport as the alt-right gets stronger. Jews moving to Israel should generally be seen as desirable.
Notice I haven't said that pogroms are desirable though. But the gas oven set are apt to thinking my position is a 'Jewish' one. Few Jews would agree.
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siberyak ago
Zionism we do not see. Their complicity in certain bolshevik crimes and the war in iraq i.e. jewish neo cons was done from behind the scenes. No blood in the butchers hand.
Joe_McCarthy ago
Why should Jews be blamed for Bolshevism more than, say, Russians? There were more Russian Bolsheviks. Even among the leadership.
siberyak ago
Because they were way overrepresented for there small slice of the population.
Joe_McCarthy ago
That is not a trivial consideration but what matters most is that it happened at all. And Jews were not nearly as numerous. The Bolsheviks came to power and held it in large part because they had the support of ordinary soldiers. They had the muscle. Jews were a trivial consideration in considering these soldiers. Left to Jewish Bolsheviks alone there would have been no Communist revolution in Russia. That can probably be said for Russians too. But it was a multiethnic effort with Russians predictably playing the most numerous role.
siberyak ago
Actually they were waaay over represented in early bolshevism and I can provide you list. The jewish community was treated very poorly by the czar so maybe this was the reason
Joe_McCarthy ago
I'm very aware of the Jews in the early Bolshevik leadership. But I don't believe their role was as decisive as that of Russians' - much less the Bolsheviks as a whole.
Just out of curiosity do you believe Lenin was a Jew? He was part. But also Russian, Tatar, German, and Swedish. Culturally he identified as Russian. But maybe it was all really a Swedish conspiracy.
siberyak ago
I dont know how else to explain this to you.....sorry man. When you make up over 50 % or the revolutionaries but you are only a few percent of the population people are going to look at that as an organized attempt. A head scratcher
Joe_McCarthy ago
Only among the leadership, certainly not the soldiers needed to seize power, can that over 50% figure come remotely close to being accurate, and only then during the actual coup with the first politburo. You had three Jews out of seven there not counting Lenin. Trotsky, Kamenev, and Zinoviev, and amusingly Kamenev and Zinoviev opposed Lenin's successful bid to seize power by force with a bunch of non-Jewish (and mostly Russian) Red Guards.