The Jewish Question (OccidentalEnclave)

submitted ago by Joe_McCarthy

I'm going to try to avoid an in depth opener here but I am going to leave this stickied for us to discuss this. I've long been frustrated with the large number of people that reduce all civilizational and racial problems to Jewish plots. Some around here agree with me. Others just think I must be a Jew because I disagree with simplistic conspiracy theories.

Let's lay out some basics of what is legitimate and what is bullshit.

  • Jewish media power - Jews are overrepresented in the US media yet still comprise a minority. And when people say Jews 'own' 'the media' this is the substance of it. They haven't the foggiest idea who owns the media in Germany or Switzerland.

  • Jews control the world - bullshit with no real evidence.

  • Rothschilds own most or all central banks - a kook theory derived from fringe sources.

  • Jews ran the Soviet Union - overstated at best.

  • Israel controls the United States - bullshit though the Zionist lobby has considerable power.

In my mind the most substantive criticism is that American Jews are mostly liberal and give Democrats upwards of 50% of their campaign funds in many cases.

What does this all amount to? Well, American Jews have a huge outmarriage rate. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 50%. Over the long run this will tend to dilute Jewish identity in the US and have them relate more to Gentiles. Some Jews will also start to self-deport as the alt-right gets stronger. Jews moving to Israel should generally be seen as desirable.

Notice I haven't said that pogroms are desirable though. But the gas oven set are apt to thinking my position is a 'Jewish' one. Few Jews would agree.

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jewshekelstein1488 ago

it seems to me this post and the op are not genuine. there is a mountain of evidence available that contradicts everything you wrote. you obviously know how to use the internet so if you haven't done the research or dismiss the evidence this indicates you have a bias. in that case there isn't likely to be any chance i can change your mind by showing you facts and evidence because we have already established that isn't the issue. and so i can only conclude you are here to argue and divert and waste our time. sorry i'm not taking the bait but thank you for exposing yourself as a kike or a shabbos goyim. i'll be sure to rate your future posts and comments accordingly.

Joe_McCarthy ago

A 'mountain of evidence' that contradicts the idea that American Jews are mostly liberal then? You did say 'everything' I wrote is subject to such 'evidence' so either we can just say you're subject to bullshit exaggerations or you can retract or substantiate your claim.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

@crensch @rellik88 @kevdude @trigglypuff

meh. i could waste a bunch of my precious time to provide sources and refute all of your bullshit kikery but we all know where this is going so i have a better idea. instead i will simply tell you a story.

A single year of my sojourn in Vienna had sufficed to imbue me with the conviction that no worker could be so stubborn that he would not in the end succumb to better knowledge and better explanations. Slowly I had become an expert in their own doctrine and used it as a weapon in the struggle for my own profound conviction. Success almost always favored my side. The great masses could be saved, if only with the gravest sacrifice in time and patience. But a Jew could never be parted from his opinions. At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination. The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day. Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I began to hate them.