The Jewish Question (OccidentalEnclave)

submitted ago by Joe_McCarthy

I'm going to try to avoid an in depth opener here but I am going to leave this stickied for us to discuss this. I've long been frustrated with the large number of people that reduce all civilizational and racial problems to Jewish plots. Some around here agree with me. Others just think I must be a Jew because I disagree with simplistic conspiracy theories.

Let's lay out some basics of what is legitimate and what is bullshit.

  • Jewish media power - Jews are overrepresented in the US media yet still comprise a minority. And when people say Jews 'own' 'the media' this is the substance of it. They haven't the foggiest idea who owns the media in Germany or Switzerland.

  • Jews control the world - bullshit with no real evidence.

  • Rothschilds own most or all central banks - a kook theory derived from fringe sources.

  • Jews ran the Soviet Union - overstated at best.

  • Israel controls the United States - bullshit though the Zionist lobby has considerable power.

In my mind the most substantive criticism is that American Jews are mostly liberal and give Democrats upwards of 50% of their campaign funds in many cases.

What does this all amount to? Well, American Jews have a huge outmarriage rate. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 50%. Over the long run this will tend to dilute Jewish identity in the US and have them relate more to Gentiles. Some Jews will also start to self-deport as the alt-right gets stronger. Jews moving to Israel should generally be seen as desirable.

Notice I haven't said that pogroms are desirable though. But the gas oven set are apt to thinking my position is a 'Jewish' one. Few Jews would agree.

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Crensch ago

Thank you for the ping, @european.

@Joe_McCarthy may you live forever under the Jewish yoke, and if Jewish, smell bitter almonds in your restless sleep until it finally happens for real.

I have a massive amount of archived material on these subjects, and much of it unsorted. Below I present the findings within the first 200 of my unsorted 3,232 items.

Jewish media power - Jews are overrepresented in the US media yet still comprise a minority. And when people say Jews 'own' 'the media' this is the substance of it. They haven't the foggiest idea who owns the media in Germany or Switzerland.

As mentioned elsewhere, this is horseshit. The only reason the native populations have allowed this all to happen is because JEWS own their media, because if an actual human owned/ran some media, they'd have been thoroughly outraged by what's happening.

Jews control the world - bullshit with no real evidence.

Bullshit since being the sole driving force behind the invasion of Europe and the US is JEWS, meaning they're waging a war on WHITE countries that they are allowed to infiltrate.

Rothschilds own most or all central banks - a kook theory derived from fringe sources.

Lucky for you, the first couple hundred items I went through had nothing on this, however, who runs those banks if not for the only people ever accused or described as running those banks? Someone else here had a quote from Amschel Rothschild more or less declaring his intent.

Jews ran the Soviet Union - overstated at best.

HAHAHAHAHA Seriously? Of all the Jewish shit you had to pick, you picked this one? Jews are literally the only reason the Bolshevik Genocide happened, you fucking kike.

Israel controls the United States - bullshit though the Zionist lobby has considerable power.

Another insanely laughable one. Henry Ford lists out what they control, are you saying he lied? Why do we give so many gibs to Israel, Jew? Why don't we ask Truman?

Why don't we just ask a bunch of important people in the past?

@kevdude @Trigglypuff @jewshekelstein1488

jewshekelstein1488 ago

this faggot is just a shill looking to waste our time. presenting evidence is not going to change anything. downgoat and move on.

Joe_McCarthy ago

More like you're paranoid conspiracy theorists wasting the time of everyone on Voat. It takes more time to refute bullshit than to produce it though so this blizzard of bullshit we've seen on this thread will take time to address. I'll address it though and this thread will remain stickied. Y'all just downvote. Because beyond your shitty arguments it's all you've got.

siberyak ago

Well you started this thread and if nothing else explain why jews have been expelled from nation after nation and kingdom after kingdom? Its something close to 100 expulsions. Are these expulsions due to irrational anti semites are due to their own behavior?

Joe_McCarthy ago

Pretty complicated issue, that. Jews got kicked out of Spain for collaborating with the Moors. They controlled Moorish finances. By the same token Jews had earlier helped finance parts of the reconquista. Would I have kicked them out? Probably.

Then you had a case like the Rintfleisch pogrom in Bavaria. Jews were rumored to have engaged in host desecration. Most Jew haters today wouldn't even know what that is. But should Jews have been killed by mobs over the desecration of a host? Maybe that was thought legitimate in the Age of Faith but Jews were attacked by mobs for the supposed actions of an individual or a few people. Seems to be, erm, overkill, no?

In general though Jews were easy to kick out. They were few in numbers. Lots of Huguenots got kicked out of France too.

They got attacked by Cossacks for being aligned with Poles. They got attacked by Greek nationalists for being aligned with Turks. And why did they get kicked out of England? Maybe so Edward I could seize their property for involved reasons? Maybe it was a confluence of factors? Why did they get along reasonably well in the Netherlands but not in Russia?

There are no easy, one size fits all answers here.