I'm going to try to avoid an in depth opener here but I am going to leave this stickied for us to discuss this. I've long been frustrated with the large number of people that reduce all civilizational and racial problems to Jewish plots. Some around here agree with me. Others just think I must be a Jew because I disagree with simplistic conspiracy theories.
Let's lay out some basics of what is legitimate and what is bullshit.
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Jewish media power - Jews are overrepresented in the US media yet still comprise a minority. And when people say Jews 'own' 'the media' this is the substance of it. They haven't the foggiest idea who owns the media in Germany or Switzerland.
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Jews control the world - bullshit with no real evidence.
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Rothschilds own most or all central banks - a kook theory derived from fringe sources.
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Jews ran the Soviet Union - overstated at best.
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Israel controls the United States - bullshit though the Zionist lobby has considerable power.
In my mind the most substantive criticism is that American Jews are mostly liberal and give Democrats upwards of 50% of their campaign funds in many cases.
What does this all amount to? Well, American Jews have a huge outmarriage rate. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 50%. Over the long run this will tend to dilute Jewish identity in the US and have them relate more to Gentiles. Some Jews will also start to self-deport as the alt-right gets stronger. Jews moving to Israel should generally be seen as desirable.
Notice I haven't said that pogroms are desirable though. But the gas oven set are apt to thinking my position is a 'Jewish' one. Few Jews would agree.
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Rellik88 ago
Really? You sure?
Right because we want to go to war with Iran because they might attack the US right? Whos helping the refugees get to Europe, enatcing the laws to allow it, and going on media endorsing it? Thats right Mormans... Also what happens every time a country want to sell oil in Gold? Syria, Libya, Iran, N Korea, Iraq?
Yep richest people in the known world for century's have no power.
http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/complete-list-of-banks-ownedcontrolled.html
https://www.marxist.com/bolshevism-the-road-to-revolution.htm http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
Your telling me the Xtains are not tripping over themselves to help Israel? Member when TX made you not boycott ISrael to get hurricane relief funds? Or the Billions we give them? Or the fact they attack one of our ships, and it swept under the rug? Come one we are not that blind.
I'm sorry but the Zionists are making it fucking obvious. They are so filled with pride they are boasting about it.
Tell me Joe why is Israel allowed an Ethnostate? Why do they murder brown people yet are not racist? Why did they play boths sides of WWI and WWII? To get Israel of course, gave ya that one for free. Why where Jews HATED all through history? I know everyone is a Nazi right? Even the Egyptians.
Joe_McCarthy ago
They have a list of banks supposed owned or controlled by the Rothschilds. No external sources. No footnotes. They just say it. I might as well just list here that the Bank of Afghanistan is owned by some person.
Needless to say, humansarefree.com is a fringe conspiracy site but it's also been flagged as a clickbait site - which means it takes stories with some truth in them and embellishes them.
http://fakenewswatch.com/
It also promotes things like germ theory denial and alien structures on Mars:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Humans_Are_Free
You and others around here would really do well to try and rely on reputable sources... or at least do a bit of cross-referencing when reading something from a fringe website.
More later...
Joe_McCarthy ago
That chart has numerous questionable claims or outright inaccuracies. Who is dumb enough to think Ron Howard is Jewish for example? Opie was a kike? Lulz.
There's some discussion going over this chart here:
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/19974/are-american-media-controlled-mostly-by-jews
This meme list, like all such lists, should be treated with skepticism as well. But without bothering to look at the accuracy of it CNN is not the entirety of the American media. Obviously.
We haven't gone to war with Iran despite a good bit of saber rattling from pro-Israel partisans. If anything that argues against your argument.
Angela Merkel? I mean, you asked who is 'enatcing' the laws. European law is not made by Jews. European parliaments are overwhelmingly non-Jewish. Hard to believe frankly that this even need be pointed out. Also, it is not just Jews that are involved in pro-refugee activities.
In any case I have no idea how this is supposed to substantiate how Jews 'control the world'. Makes no sense.
A conspiracy theory involving these countries proves what exactly?
Yep richest people in the known world for century's have no power.
List of top ten wealthiest families in the world. Rothschilds are not on the list:
https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/world/the-top-10-richest-families-in-the-world/
It's questionable whether he even said it. But even if so how does a quote from the 19th century establish that Rothschilds own the central banks of the world in 2017?
I'll address more of your post as time permits.