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moderator99 ago

His wife was killed less than a week before 9/11.

Was it a threat against him to keep him silent?

Patranon1 ago

Hmmmm. Guided planes?

RecceRat ago

Before anyone here shouts me down for even suggesting this let alone giving it any element of truth or validation, I do not know enough about the subject?

What subject, well it's about remote viewing!

As tends to happen when digging around, a few days ago I ended up watching a 1 1/2 documentary type upload on Y/T about remote viewing. For a small synopsis, the person in charge asked two of his so called best "remote viewers" to do there stuff, they were told nothing about any subject and this was recently, many years after 9/11

You watched both of the remote viewers describe and draw on a white board what they were seeing, both saw very similar things and undoubtedly it was the twin towers, the destruction, even referencing the dust and particles etc.

But the piece that struck me was when one of the viewers was describing and drawing clearly a cockpit of an airplane, but he was more disturbed because (and yes you have to have an element of believe in this stuff) he described the pilot frantically trying to control the aircraft but couldn't. He described and drew them turning off systems etc to try and regain control of the aircraft, he said in the viewing that nothing the pilots could do would make the controls respond to the pilots input.

Yes it's a massive leap to make, but reading this post today I was immediately struck about the pilots having zero control over the flight controls in that remote viewing session.

If anyone wants the link (I found it interesting to watch) then I will dig back and provide it.

Mammy ago

Ehhh...Not a massive leap for me. I've always been very intuitive -- not psychic, as in ESP -- but I have always known things without knowing how I know them -- about people and what sorrows them or what makes them tick, whether they can be trusted and in what capacity, etc. And I usually know pretty quickly. It's just a "feel," but it has never proven me wrong, although I have learned it is not wise to inform others of my "feel," unless, of course, they ask.

I even think I have astrally-traveled in my sleep maybe two or three dozen times that I can recall in my life. Always I am flying over rooftops in neighborhoods where I have lived. In these dreams (?) I am hovering just above treetops and I can see what is going on, but it is not much because it is night-time and I can see the parked cars, the guy who lets his dog out the back door in his p.j.'s, a lady in her kitchen at the sink in her bathrobe, etc. These are very visually detailed experiences and the feel is that all is as it should be in the world. I don't know how to say it otherwise.

So call me spoopy or whatever but I have always had an interest in astral travel or projection, though certainly have not sought training and certainly without knowing Christ as my Lord and Savior.

So...

I read a book over 4 decades ago titled "The Spear of Destiny" by Trevor Ravenscroft. It was essentially about Adolph Hitler's obsession with, and ultimate possession of, the spear which the Roman soldier, Longinus, used to pierce the side of Christ as he hung on the cross, ostensibly under orders to prove to the crowd that Christ was dead and the crowd would go home. But upon piercing Christ's rib cage, legend has it that Longinus had an immediate conversion as blood and water flowed forth from the body of Christ, proving to the crowd that Christ was still alive. Legend also has it that Longinus was immediately cured of his cataracts as well, but I digress...

So the legend behind the Spear of Destiny is that whomsoever possesses the spear holds the destiny of the world, for good, or for evil.

Part of the book went into the spear's history and its possessors over time, and the debate as to whether it was authentic or not, then fast forwarded to Hitler's young adulthood when he became fascinated with The Spear and would go visit in a museum in Vienna, reportedly having had visions while staring at it.

The book also went into many mystical things, including reincarnation/past lives of historical figures, the King Arthur legends and the pursuit of the Holy Grail as allegory for spiritual attainment (or illumination), the secrets embedded in Wagner's operas, (a particular of which was Hitler's favorite -- "Parsifal" -- the knight who found the grail -- and astral travel which I gather is what is meant nowadays by the term, "remote viewing."

One chapter in particular I remember is titled something like "The ABC's of Black Magic," -- maybe it has White Magic in the title, too -- but the gist of it was that there were/are people who took "shortcuts" to spiritual enlightenment who manifested this enlightenment through the use of black magic and psychedelics.

But the book also discussed the "white magic" folks who did not take short cuts, but rather practiced such noble attributes as humility, courage, honesty, prudence, etc.

Like the "black hats" and "white hats," we talk about today, I suppose, even if but metaphorically.

Anyhow...

So of course when Hitler came into power he took possession of The Spear. The book went on about how the U.S. employed certain "white magic" high level practitioners of astral travel to inform them of Hitler's and his associate's whereabouts and plans. Remote spying for the good guys, if you will.

I remember the book said something to the effect that it was not until the U.S. began to employ these tactics that the tide of the war began to turn.

And that's what I know about astral travel/remote viewing.

But dang, I should get that book again.

Blacksmith21 ago

If you have any good links on the subject of The Spear, I'd be interested. Thanks.