Zyklon was banned for spam, not 1990 comments. Since he self-deleted his comments, unless anyone has an archive, the official reason is about all anyone has to go by. You might not think srayzie is unbiased, but ONE of the two erased the evidence. Zyklon's comments aren't in the modlog, and his most recent GA comment from SearchVoat was 10 days ago; meaning he removed them from there, too. Who had something to hide?
Oh. So you didn’t make a post saying that SBBH was brigading GA and QRV? Must have been my imagination then.
No, actually, she didn't. She said to prepare for attacks.
I honestly would have prepared for the same had I banned a zyklon alt. He acts like he doesn't care, but he takes stuff like that personally, and generally he has folks following him when he chimps out. All from SBBH. The label isn't a stretch. If the FBI is out to get you, is it all of them, or is it just some? You guys took that dick way too hard for being unflappable shitposters.
Regardless, she apologized for the wording, and explained what she meant. Everyone else that took umbrage at that seemed to cool off almost immediately. People make mistakes.
Because I’m sending group messages trying to brigade @Zyklon_b and @Gabara. Yeah I’m making a bigger issue out of this.
You don’t have to. It’s implied. Look at the reaction you got.
Brigade them? 23,000ccp and 52,000ccp. I highly doubt @srayzie was trying to brigade them; what good would it do? Do you think she's that stupid?
Hell, someone brigade me like that. Please ping people to read my words that you don't like. I welcome the feedback, or the jousting.
It looked to me like she wanted feedback from people she trusted before going public with it, or letting it drop if something got worked out. I see nothing wrong with this. Also, which of those she pinged are known for up/downvoting based on groupthink or following the leader?
Blatant attempt to call for support pinging users who are my friends too..
What's wrong with calling for suport from mutual friends? You did the same, here.
And yet your whole user base now thinks v/SoapBoxBanhammer is brigading this sub. Despite you being a SBBH mod.. not cool Hun
Why would they think SBBH is brigading? Attacking, maybe, but all she said in her post was to be prepared for it. She was an SBBH mod, a long time ago.
Yet I notice every comment of his has 3 or 4 downvoats now? Intent or not that’s what is happening.
I don't know where you're looking, but if users are acting out, those made aware of it aren't exactly honor-bound to not vote when pinged there. It's their choice what to do with their votes. Why is it her fault for making them aware of it? Again to the question of which ones follow her and vote blindly?
Now what Triggly is right about:
P.s. the circle jerk is acting like a circle jerk
Maybe the sub should consider classifying itself as a circle jerk.
It could be said that the mods are reacting in exactly the way that someone engineering drama would want..
Yes, it could. If someone is engineering this drama, then who is either the useful idiot, paid idiot, or the one behind this? Who still accepts that username?
You had enough proof to ban him and end the matter.
Yep. And you have evidence that she fully expected to be attacked just for banning his alt; a lot to consider going for a main if you're already worried about an alt. She obviously didn't think it would end the matter, but start a bigger one.
Why are you struggling with this concept? I’m trying to help you!
She is, @srayzie. Telling you what nearly everyone has told you at least once: Do your positive stuff in GA, have fun shitposting, and let the insignificant nobodies fade away, since they have no platform or reputation upon which to shout their message. You've powered through and caught a lot of shills by being stubborn on this front, but there's another way to win.
I don’t have a problem with loli or porn being banned. That was never my arguement.
This is true.
Until I offered an opinion that you didn’t like? Where did I say that we weren’t?
Triggly never said the two of you weren't cool, srayzie. You both were talking past each other and getting heated; I don't really see a reason that you wouldn't be, but I'd assume this was just stated because tensions/emotions were high.
Always engaging the trolls and shills. I'd wager if a poll were to be taken, 99% of everyone would point to that as her main flaw.
@Crensch has seen our frustrations behind the scenes. Ask him if we’re engineering drama. What an insult Triggly.
She didn't say you were engineering drama, she said the mods are reacting as someone engineering drama would want.
I thought you and I were cool too.
I don't see any reason why the two of you wouldn't be cool. You butted heads, now cool off, read the above, smile face to face, and punch each other in the gut one good time. Then help each other walk out looking like you're both drunk and can't stand up straight.
@Crensch has seen our frustrations behind the scenes.
She is frustrated. She wants to be left alone, and wants to make things better for people who are only guilty of believing in Q.
This is dumb.
A staggering amount of what passed back and forth was dumb, but only because the two of you weren't seeing each other. You were seeing an enemy, and blinded to each other's position and arguments.
No, I’m tired of the drama. But shit like this is what sparks it.
I won't claim to know what she's tired of, but she doesn't go an look for this stuff, she's just an easy target for it. Exceedingly stubborn, but that's worked out in Voat's favor at a decent rate; many very difficult to pin down shills were busted because she went on the warpath.
You’re insinuating that I wanted people to go brigade them, when what I did was provide proof, screenshots, and archived links of Zyklon encouraging gore and porn on QRV and threatening me and Shizy.
Undeniably true.
I'm with @gabara. I'd like it if the two of you took a breather and came back later with cooler heads. No reason to attack each other, and things really could have been talked out directly from the get-go, I think.
Yes, srayzie attacked SBBH. Yes, triggly got angry and lashed out. Yes, srayzie apologized. Yes, inaccurate and accurate things were said back and forth. Yes, tensions were high and thoughts and words about each other were maybe taken too far.
Dear @PuttItOut, @Kevdude, @TrigglyPuff, and @Srayzie. I'm sorry I unwittingly wandered into the battle of Agincourt and picked on a couple of my Norman cousins on either side. I had no idea there was a war going on. I should stick with supplying everyone with dank memes and surrealist absurdist anti-humour. Regards, @HeyGeorge.
Because some are in here, even at this very moment, shitting up our comments. Zyklon started it but it continues because everyone thinks it’s so fucking funny right now. Posts were made on SBBH pinging this user several times.
I spent an hour this morning making this so @LauraIngalls would stop feeding the trolls. She’s really innocent and naive and not used to this. Because of that, she won’t be left alone, even after I asked so called friends to stop. You spelled Zyklon wrong. Him and his friend are already making plans to “kilt GA today.
I’m trying to move on. I haven’t been feeding the trolls. I’ve ignored everything. I’ve done my part. “Friends” are still shitting in our house.
Because you’re enjoying it Laura. It’s fun! Downvotes are fun too. I will start letting users know that you’re having fun and inviting shills to shit up our threads and remind them to downvote the shills, including you. That will be a blast!
I have a better idea. Instead of shitting up our threads, people can ping you to their subs! Yay! I can have fun with you too then because it’s not against some subs rules.
You guys, please feel free to ping Laura to SBBH because she’s in the mood to have fun this weekend. She’s curious about Jews and the Holocaust.
You're being hardheaded by not listening to her, what you're doing is screwing up her sub, because you're fighting with these shills who hate you, which is only causing them to stir up trouble here. Why don't you understand this? You are causing her to seriously doubt her. Show your good faith by doing what she says.
They attack anyway. I'm SICK of the attacks. I am getting flooded by attacks and nothing can be done. WHY/ I blocked the JERKS I can but some can't be blocked from other places. I will try to ignore the JERK but I am SICK OF THE ATTACKS.
If you can't block them just ignore them. It's all you can do. Srayzie would appreciate if you don't engage with them. She's having a lot of problems right now and you're not helping. If you're on Voat you have to accept that you will be attacked, it's just the way it is. And a lot of people here hate Israel and Jews (I do and I don't it's a complicated theological conundrum) so making a post like you did will draw plenty people down on you. Attacks here will never stop, you just have to get used to it. But help Srayzie right now, cause now you're making her upset with you, and causing her to doubt you, and eventually you will become even more isolated.
Well if I am to expect attacks what difference does it really make? I am a Christian and will defend my Faith. The haters here are ridiculous. Don't we have FREE SPEECH? I will try to ignore the jerks but believe me it does NO GOOD. And by the way Srayzie is getting attacked too by the same person that is attacking ,me. They attack if they don't like your post. The JEW HATERS ARE SICK.
stop engaging with the haters, laura, you cant change their opinion anyway.
the trolls set triggers. when you react, they have fun. its a dance that only works with two or more people, a party; when you ignore their triggers, they will be bored and eventually stop dancing.
srayzie spent time and energy to teach you and, as you seem to refuse to learn, is frustrated now.
just know that voat is full of racists and anti-religious people so posts on your love for israel or on your faith will be attacked far and wide.
from what i see, you have two options from which you can choose every day: when sensitive, avoid these topics and you will soon have peace again; when buckled up and level-headed, go ahead, enjoy the fight, but dont complain.
There is a time and a place to "defend your faith" sometimes retreat and discretion is the better part of valor, we can sometimes do more harm to the gospel by "defending" when it's not wise. K I'm done.
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Crensch ago
You two are talking past each other. You're both right and wrong, from what I can see.
@Trigglypuff has been trying to say "don't feed the trolls" this whole time.
@Srayzie has been trying to correct incorrect statements made by Triggly.
First, what I see Triggly being wrong about:
Zyklon was banned for spam, not 1990 comments. Since he self-deleted his comments, unless anyone has an archive, the official reason is about all anyone has to go by. You might not think srayzie is unbiased, but ONE of the two erased the evidence. Zyklon's comments aren't in the modlog, and his most recent GA comment from SearchVoat was 10 days ago; meaning he removed them from there, too. Who had something to hide?
No, actually, she didn't. She said to prepare for attacks.
I honestly would have prepared for the same had I banned a zyklon alt. He acts like he doesn't care, but he takes stuff like that personally, and generally he has folks following him when he chimps out. All from SBBH. The label isn't a stretch. If the FBI is out to get you, is it all of them, or is it just some? You guys took that dick way too hard for being unflappable shitposters.
Regardless, she apologized for the wording, and explained what she meant. Everyone else that took umbrage at that seemed to cool off almost immediately. People make mistakes.
Brigade them? 23,000ccp and 52,000ccp. I highly doubt @srayzie was trying to brigade them; what good would it do? Do you think she's that stupid?
Hell, someone brigade me like that. Please ping people to read my words that you don't like. I welcome the feedback, or the jousting.
It looked to me like she wanted feedback from people she trusted before going public with it, or letting it drop if something got worked out. I see nothing wrong with this. Also, which of those she pinged are known for up/downvoting based on groupthink or following the leader?
What's wrong with calling for suport from mutual friends? You did the same, here.
Why would they think SBBH is brigading? Attacking, maybe, but all she said in her post was to be prepared for it. She was an SBBH mod, a long time ago.
I don't know where you're looking, but if users are acting out, those made aware of it aren't exactly honor-bound to not vote when pinged there. It's their choice what to do with their votes. Why is it her fault for making them aware of it? Again to the question of which ones follow her and vote blindly?
Now what Triggly is right about:
Maybe the sub should consider classifying itself as a circle jerk.
Yes, it could. If someone is engineering this drama, then who is either the useful idiot, paid idiot, or the one behind this? Who still accepts that username?
Yep. And you have evidence that she fully expected to be attacked just for banning his alt; a lot to consider going for a main if you're already worried about an alt. She obviously didn't think it would end the matter, but start a bigger one.
She is, @srayzie. Telling you what nearly everyone has told you at least once: Do your positive stuff in GA, have fun shitposting, and let the insignificant nobodies fade away, since they have no platform or reputation upon which to shout their message. You've powered through and caught a lot of shills by being stubborn on this front, but there's another way to win.
This is true.
Triggly never said the two of you weren't cool, srayzie. You both were talking past each other and getting heated; I don't really see a reason that you wouldn't be, but I'd assume this was just stated because tensions/emotions were high.
What @srayzie is wrong about:
Always engaging the trolls and shills. I'd wager if a poll were to be taken, 99% of everyone would point to that as her main flaw.
She didn't say you were engineering drama, she said the mods are reacting as someone engineering drama would want.
I don't see any reason why the two of you wouldn't be cool. You butted heads, now cool off, read the above, smile face to face, and punch each other in the gut one good time. Then help each other walk out looking like you're both drunk and can't stand up straight.
What @srayzie is right about:
She is frustrated. She wants to be left alone, and wants to make things better for people who are only guilty of believing in Q.
A staggering amount of what passed back and forth was dumb, but only because the two of you weren't seeing each other. You were seeing an enemy, and blinded to each other's position and arguments.
I won't claim to know what she's tired of, but she doesn't go an look for this stuff, she's just an easy target for it. Exceedingly stubborn, but that's worked out in Voat's favor at a decent rate; many very difficult to pin down shills were busted because she went on the warpath.
Undeniably true.
I'm with @gabara. I'd like it if the two of you took a breather and came back later with cooler heads. No reason to attack each other, and things really could have been talked out directly from the get-go, I think.
Yes, srayzie attacked SBBH. Yes, triggly got angry and lashed out. Yes, srayzie apologized. Yes, inaccurate and accurate things were said back and forth. Yes, tensions were high and thoughts and words about each other were maybe taken too far.
I think you both are awesome.
gabara ago
Dear @PuttItOut, @Kevdude, @TrigglyPuff, and @Srayzie. I'm sorry I unwittingly wandered into the battle of Agincourt and picked on a couple of my Norman cousins on either side. I had no idea there was a war going on. I should stick with supplying everyone with dank memes and surrealist absurdist anti-humour. Regards, @HeyGeorge.
heygeorge ago
@trigglypuff @srayzie @syklon_b @crensch @kevdude
Why not all just blame this on the jew and move on?
srayzie ago
Because some are in here, even at this very moment, shitting up our comments. Zyklon started it but it continues because everyone thinks it’s so fucking funny right now. Posts were made on SBBH pinging this user several times.
I spent an hour this morning making this so @LauraIngalls would stop feeding the trolls. She’s really innocent and naive and not used to this. Because of that, she won’t be left alone, even after I asked so called friends to stop. You spelled Zyklon wrong. Him and his friend are already making plans to “kilt GA today.
I’m trying to move on. I haven’t been feeding the trolls. I’ve ignored everything. I’ve done my part. “Friends” are still shitting in our house.
@Puttitout @Kevdude @Crensch @Shizy
Lauraingalls ago
I'm having fun today with the idiots. I'm in the mood to tell them off.
srayzie ago
Well great Laura. I’m archiving this. Don’t ask us mods to help again. You’re on your own. Don’t call us when you are trolled.
@Shizy @MolochHunter
We no longer need to help Laura. I’ve spent the morning helping her privately. She’s either an idiot or a troll. She gets what’s coming to her.
She’s all yours @Kevdude. Have fun with @LauraIngalls.
Lauraingalls ago
Ok. I won't. Doesn't really help anyway.
srayzie ago
Because you’re enjoying it Laura. It’s fun! Downvotes are fun too. I will start letting users know that you’re having fun and inviting shills to shit up our threads and remind them to downvote the shills, including you. That will be a blast!
I have a better idea. Instead of shitting up our threads, people can ping you to their subs! Yay! I can have fun with you too then because it’s not against some subs rules.
You guys, please feel free to ping Laura to SBBH because she’s in the mood to have fun this weekend. She’s curious about Jews and the Holocaust.
@HeyGeorge @Gabara @Trigglypuff @Sandhog @ExpertShitPoster
Lauraingalls ago
What is wrong with you?
bopper ago
You're being hardheaded by not listening to her, what you're doing is screwing up her sub, because you're fighting with these shills who hate you, which is only causing them to stir up trouble here. Why don't you understand this? You are causing her to seriously doubt her. Show your good faith by doing what she says.
Lauraingalls ago
They attack anyway. I'm SICK of the attacks. I am getting flooded by attacks and nothing can be done. WHY/ I blocked the JERKS I can but some can't be blocked from other places. I will try to ignore the JERK but I am SICK OF THE ATTACKS.
bopper ago
If you can't block them just ignore them. It's all you can do. Srayzie would appreciate if you don't engage with them. She's having a lot of problems right now and you're not helping. If you're on Voat you have to accept that you will be attacked, it's just the way it is. And a lot of people here hate Israel and Jews (I do and I don't it's a complicated theological conundrum) so making a post like you did will draw plenty people down on you. Attacks here will never stop, you just have to get used to it. But help Srayzie right now, cause now you're making her upset with you, and causing her to doubt you, and eventually you will become even more isolated.
srayzie ago
Thank you Bopper
bopper ago
Damn she's hardheaded. sigh
srayzie ago
From now on, I consider her a shill. I think she plays stupid. Thank you for trying, you’re the best.
bopper ago
Thanks Xo
srayzie ago
Xoxo
Lauraingalls ago
Well if I am to expect attacks what difference does it really make? I am a Christian and will defend my Faith. The haters here are ridiculous. Don't we have FREE SPEECH? I will try to ignore the jerks but believe me it does NO GOOD. And by the way Srayzie is getting attacked too by the same person that is attacking ,me. They attack if they don't like your post. The JEW HATERS ARE SICK.
divine_human ago
stop engaging with the haters, laura, you cant change their opinion anyway.
the trolls set triggers. when you react, they have fun. its a dance that only works with two or more people, a party; when you ignore their triggers, they will be bored and eventually stop dancing.
srayzie spent time and energy to teach you and, as you seem to refuse to learn, is frustrated now.
just know that voat is full of racists and anti-religious people so posts on your love for israel or on your faith will be attacked far and wide.
from what i see, you have two options from which you can choose every day: when sensitive, avoid these topics and you will soon have peace again; when buckled up and level-headed, go ahead, enjoy the fight, but dont complain.
Lauraingalls ago
Thanks.
bopper ago
There is a time and a place to "defend your faith" sometimes retreat and discretion is the better part of valor, we can sometimes do more harm to the gospel by "defending" when it's not wise. K I'm done.
Lauraingalls ago
There is a certain group of people here that think they can scare people into SILENCE.