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gabara ago

You're pretty brutal for a Christian.

Hand_of_Node ago

But what do you mean by "Christian"? Believe it or not, there are some people who think Catholics are Christian, and that's just one example of a multitude.

gabara ago

How are Catholics NOT Christian?

Hand_of_Node ago

Because they don't follow the bible? If you want some details examples, here are a couple links that go into some detail.

https://carm.org/list-of-roman-catholic-false-teachings

https://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm

gabara ago

Not good enough. They're still Christian. Try again.

Hand_of_Node ago

Only if "Christian" doesn't really mean anything. Many of the non-Catholic, supposedly "Christian" variants, also aren't Christian.

gabara ago

The Catholic Church invented Christianity in ~300 AD. Your argument is invalid.

Hand_of_Node ago

I'm not making an argument. I'm just pointing out what I believe to be true. And while I'm not a theologian, I'm also not completely unfamiliar with the topic. Feel free to disagree if you like.

gabara ago

For what it's worth I was raised Christian and my parents also taught me that Catholics weren't Christian, but a lot of my friends were Catholic and some of them seemed MORE Christian if anything.

Hand_of_Node ago

That's not surprising. Look on the internet for "christian" and you'll find a wide range of groups and denominations claiming the title. "Jesus wants you to be a millionaire!" Uh, that's not necessarily the case...

I should point out I'm making no claims about myself, other than not being a theologian, but my belief is that Christians are those who follow the bible in the most original form and translation possible. While some aspects are more open to interpretation than others, there are some core requirements that are pretty clear. From my peripheral and relatively meager knowledge of various denominations, my wild ass guess is that probably 5-20% of non-Catholics in the US who claim to be Christian actually are. Being a Christian in this 'modern' society is a challenge.

Anyway, that's my rant.

gabara ago

Old testament was written in 500 BC from a mix of oral tradition and the Epic of Gilgamesh. New Testament was compiled in 300 AD. That's also when the Christianity became a thing and (what became) Catholic Church was founded in Heliopolis, Egypt and the relocated to Rome. All moden Christianity branch off that.