(Old goats, you are invited to add your piece or correct me where I'm wrong. I take this opportunity to express my gratitude for opening your doors and teaching us - even if pretty roughly at times, lol - about Voat culture.)
“Q sent us here”, is what I hear from many GA-Reddit refugees on v/QRV. Great that you made it here, welcome… hopefully, this post will help you to easier find your way around here...
Voat has three main Q subverses that I will talk about in another post. Suffice to say for now; you can access the feed of all these three sistersubs in a set the Voat-admin created here https://voat.co/s/GreatAwakening. (Notice the ‘s’ before the dash instead of the usual v/)
This post is intended to focus on the relationship between Q-people and the Voat community. Let's end this 'us vs. them' bullshit.
We came as refugees to the only free speech zone on a public social media platform besides the chans. Voat has a similar interface to Reddit so it’s easier to use for people who don’t find their way around 8chan.
There are some major differences between Voat and Reddit that confuse and irritate new goats (term for Voat users who perceive many Redditors as sheep) which need to be understood, in order to easily integrate.
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Public moderation logs are default, their links can be found down below in the sidebar. On Reddit, only a few rare subs make their mod logs transparent as they show all removals and bans so the moderator’s actions are under constant surveillance by community (prevents secret mod power abuse and censoring).
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Free speech brings about interesting information but also a lot of trolling, insults, cursing, strange images; things one may not want to see or hear. It’s a call to putting on our big boys/gals pants, toughen up, stop taking everything personally, and speaking our heart and mind. No political correctness on Voat, take it or leave it.
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Voat is so much smaller than Reddit that many users don’t go to specific subs but scan the v/all page which displays all public subs in one feed. If you go there, you will see that right now, a majority of the posts are from the Q-subs. Just for a moment, put yourself into the shoes of the old goats. How would you feel, esp. if you were a Q-sceptic?
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In order to post, you need 10 CCP (comment contribution points), in order to downvote (downvoat), you need 100 CCP. This works against spam and downvoat brigades but is annoying for genuine Redditors who only want to engage on /QRV where you can’t earn or lose CCP because of anonymization. The system is also designed to invite people to engage with the greater Voat community. A few interesting or funny comments outside of the ‘ghetto’ will give you the required CCP within a few days. Annoying, yes, but that’s the culture here so we have to accept it and better stop fighting it over and over again.
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Unlike Reddit where you receive a default upvote for each comment (automatically upvoting yourself with ‘1’), your comments on Voat start at ‘0’. You can’t blabber ‘your way up’ in solitude; you need to communicate with the goats. In the process, you will learn Voat culture and understand some of the issues that come up with the Q-people.
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Vote farming is despised and all attempts to manipulate the voting system – as in creating a sub or alts with the intent to earn CCP – are being called out and downvoated. Engage genuinely and you will be accepted and ‘rewarded’.
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Due to its size, the Voat community cares about all of its subs. When a new sub is modded in a censoring way – as happened with v/TheAwakening whwere, after 2 days, the mod log for bans was 8 pages long -, old goats flood in to make people aware, call out the mods, and troll the shit out of the sub. If the owner of one of their subs gets smeared without evidence of wrong-doing - as happened with v/GreatAwakening -, the goats take it as an attack on their entire community and fight back.
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New people and subs seem to traditionally get challenged with ‘free speech smears' so you will stumble upon a lot of ‘niggerfaggot’ and ‘it’s all the Jew’s fault’ stuff. It’s like a test: how politically correct and brainwashed are you? Are you fit for free-speech Voat or a ‘normie’? If you deal with it intelligently, it’ll stop after a few days. If you fight it or react with outrage, it will persist.
That being said, Voat land is somewhat similar to Reddit but essentially different in a few aspects as its basic principle is honoring the 1st amendment. That’s not easy to take for some Redditors who are used to being ‘protected’ from unwanted content by moderators who do or do not work with their subscribers’ best intent at heart.
Now step into the Voat land citizens shoes for a moment...
It’s like Europe and the refugee crisis which, over time, got renamed to ‘migrant crisis’. Note: Refugees leave when the crisis is over, migrants stay and need to integrate, in order to peacefully live next to each other.
Like Europe – first ‘invaded’ by the ME, now by Africa -, Voat experienced two floods of Reddit refugees. (Btw, Q-people are not the first refugee flood to Voat; Wikipedia gives a synopsis of former migrations.)
The first flood happened on Rystalnacht, Sept.12, when the mods of Reddit GA created v/TheAwakening right after Reddits BigBan. It created lots of upheaval that stirred the pot against the ‘Q-invasion’. (Let’s talk about this in more detail in another post. If you want to search Voat on it or anything else, use https://searchvoat.co)
The second flood came on and after Sep.21, after Q asked the seemingly trusted board owner (BO) of 8chan to create a Voat sub – v/QRV - for the ex /GA/ Redditors (Q2269).
Both newly created subs don’t respect Voat culture, they both fucked with the voting system. TA corrected that after some days, QRV won’t correct it as it’s part of the anonymization feature.
Staying within the Europe refugee analogy, the first flood appeared like the installation of a ghetto under sharia law, and the second flood like full anarchy. That some members of these subs tend to behave accordingly is no surprise.
Long story short, Q-people from all subs but the first one – v/GA, which has existed here for 8 months – are refugees to Voat land and have to integrate with its culture else we are quickly being chased out of here again.
It’s up to us to choose to stay refugees or become migrants. When we stop fighting the goats and stop trying to take over the entire platform (there was some BS about Q-temple and 'taking back what's rightfully ours, arghhh), they will stop fighting us.
Let’s end this ‘Us vs. Them’ bullshit! It’s the playbook of the elite; ‘divide+conquer’ is their only way to keep us people in check. They chuckle about us right now while we blindly follow the strategy they have implanted into us to divide ourselves.
If you look around on Voat, you may discover quite a few people who live up to the same cause – liberation from slavery, re-gaining sovereignty – even if they are Q-sceptics.
There are more similarities between us than differences.
Back to the Europe analogy: Unlike many Europeans who tend to have vacations in various countries, many Americans never had the chance to travel outside of their country and culture so many of the refugees to Voat have no experience with integrating into a system they are not used to.
Here is the challenge.
Voat is like a house with many rooms and the Q-people inhabit three of them. (Yeah, there are smaller ones, too, i.E. v/Qbiblical, in case you want to talk religion.)
If we keep going with these stupid useless fights, in-between the Q-subs and with the Voat community, we are further away from ‘Time to Unite’ than ever. //They// managed to create an artificial dualistic division again instead of keeping us focused on the 1% that manipulate and enslave the 99%.
Wake up! Stop playing their game!
Voat has welcomed us, is testing us, and will chase us out if we keep fighting its culture and don’t integrate.
Never mind that some of the Voat trolls and many of the Reddit trolls who followed us to Voat instill division and spam the heck out of us. Witty comments, ignoring, or downvoating are the tools to deal with that.
It’s up to us to respond as mature conscious people and not as sleeping sheep that react according to their conditioning, fleeing the challenge or fighting back. Some wakefulness is required so we can make peace with our neighbors in this community house.
Welcome to Voat land! May you quickly and easily find your way around; you will meet some nice people who are great models when it comes to thinking for oneself and living without leaders to follow. It’s like a bridge to anarchic 8chan, if you so will. Can be quite a lot of fun here if you adjust…
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srayzie ago
Wow! Thank you. You explained all that better than I could have! Thank you for all the nice things you said about v/GreatAwakening! I’m going to add this to the Welcome Reddit Refugees sticky at the top!! Most newbies have been starting there!
WWG1WGA! 🇺🇸 <3
@Shizy @MolochHunter @PlankO @Kevdude
divine_human ago
srayzie, you were emotionally attached so you couldnt be clear and powerful ... who would not be disappointed, after having followed NR for months, even supported him financially, and then get smeared like this? its one harsh awakening; shedding illusions always hurts, sigh.
remember Q saying 'pain is coming'? it also counts for us awakening ones. the biggest pains happen when major cards get drawn from our card board house of be-lie-fs.
we humans are programmed to follow leaders. neon revolt used this leader-follower archetype to make himself a leader while people projected that onto him. when he began misleading - i noticed that around may/june -, most people moved into cognitive dissonance.
by now, NR has revealed his true colors. no matter whether he plays from the deep states or the narcissists playbook, he has repeatedly behaved like an asshole that instills doubt and division. realizing this hurts, esp. if you are the one serving as a projection screen for his shit.
you can also see it in a bright light, lol... you and this sub served as a tool to disclose his nature or role in this game. (he plays a guru game, if you ask me, and people feed into it.)
the attention of thousands of people got directed onto the issue, some of them aware critical thinkers; and as it happened on free-speech voat, under the eyes of old goats, and not on censoring-reddit; those voices were being heard and evaluated.
its thousands of people that got disillusioned in the process (and more require to^^) and thats a good thing. we are reminded of 'beware whom you follow'.
i feel honored, my lady <bowtoeachother>
i have been bathing in this chaos here for the past 2 weeks, heheh, while looking at it with a neutral eye. as an empath, my primary perception channel is feeling (note: feeling is not emotion but a sensation in body and energy field). i feel truth, perceive the underlying energies, their patterns and structures, before my mind finds rational explanations for it and ways to transmit it through words.
it took me all day to write these two post today; they had been percolating in me for a few days but the flow to write them didnt come, the timing wasnt right, the shit wasnt yet stirred enough, there was no call yet to put it into words. the day was today, cant help it, kavanaugh or not, it wanted to come up and out.
i am so done with all these fights! fucking stupid chaos crew playbook!
i commented to you the other day to fuck off NR; you dont need his apology or acceptance or approval or whatsoever, and neither that of QRV or TA. they dont need to point out that GA is also on voat, thats your job; a post on QRV and TA once a week that states 'these are the Q subs, and here is the address of the set that combines their feeds', or a link to a sticky post wont hurt.
keep doing what you do and the people who resonate with it will come. i heard a lot of encouraging feedback for you and how you take care of this sub, on this post and all over the sub.
there are some nice people here, and i noticed that old goats tend to comment here, not on the other Q subs. same as me, hihi; when i find something posted on all three subs at the same time, thus flood the v/all or s/GA feed, i tend to only comment on GA.
stop defending, gal, simply take you stand, thats all it takes! community loves you and the space you provide ...
you can feel blessed that GA is not the sub for hundreds of thousands of viewers and floods of trolls and brigades! quantity isnt important, quality is. and the chance for quality is higher on this sub here, at this point of time.
people here have your back so you can get over with the hurt. you carry the disillusion pain for a big chunk of the bigger Q community as you served as a stage where revelation happened; but you have the heart to draw the essence of this experience - trust betrayed, due to blind followerhip - and transmute it into sovereignty and 'shining your own light', for you and community.
may this sub also be a hub for having a watchful eye on Q and POTUS. blind followership is what brought us into the mess in the first place.
our job is not to replace one leader/hero/guru with another, our job is to follow our innate inner resonance and lead ourSelves.
as long as a 'leader' is in alignment with it, our support for him is well tuned and powerful. truth will shine. our hearts and minds and guts will tell.
when misleading happens, intentfully or in ignorance, we, as sovereign beings who think and choose for ourselves, have to call it out and take our stand. its that simple. drop followership, start leading yourself, be a model so others remember how to lead themselves.
ahh sorry, one of my long-winding days, lol, the result is walls of text... nuff said... love it here .. thanks for making this a nice place, srayzie <3
srayzie ago
Aww thank you for your encouraging words, AND for spending so much time putting these together. I put in the sticky AND the side bar where it says “Newbies start here.”
The reason I have felt the need to defend myself is because NR used his name, his platform, and his 8chan connections, and made a blog post totally misleading. I’ve reached out to the mods and even NR before I saw that post. Now even mods are slandering and lying about me.
My subscribers, before Reddit refuges arrived, know I don’t put up with bullshit. So I reached out more than once ONLY for Q and Trump. In another situation, I would have told them to go fuck themselves. But I sucked it up because I know this movement is far more important than our feelings on Voat. BUT, it’s not that simple.
When I started seeing the users from TA being treated like crap, and the mods causing division, then it becomes a lot more important. Even the mod on v/QRV called me a retart and another is accusing me and my mods of all kinds of terrible things.
If I set my feeling aside and look at the big picture. Since day one, they have done the opposite of what Q would want us to do. By causing division, they are actually affecting thousands of people. Where are they going to go if they get fed up? Most of the people are genuinely good patriots. When it comes to Q, I am 100% in. I want my kids to have a good future. I feel like now, while Trump is in office, is our last chance to take our country back.
Anyway, I have a ton more subscribers. Quality IS what’s important. But I want all subs to get together and focus on our common goal. Focus on what we’re here for. If you’re in it for the right reasons, then you’re not gonna let the deep state win after the Reddit censorship. If you care about the movement, you don’t let them succeed. You don’t let subs or platforms divide you. You unite.
They Want Us Divided.
Together We Are Strong.
How much more clear does Q need to be? So what am I to do? If I say something, people think I I’m butt hurt and want the numbers. If I don’t, I’m sitting by doing nothing while watching division rip us apart. Voat is small. I doubt Q even knew about Voat. So since we’re small and don’t have the 8chan connections that NR has and some of these mods, then I have no way to get Q’s attention. If they are coming compromised, we need to know before they divide us even more and somehow compromise Voat.
So seriously, I would forgive and forget if they apologized and got their act together. I just want us to focus. Get our act together. Stop with the power trips. It’s never bothered me that they made their own sub. As long as we unite while we can, then I’m happy. So that’s what sucks. Plus if people get fed up and leave because they have nowhere to go because they listened to the dishonesty being pushed by others, then instead of coming here, where we DO take things seriously, then they just give up.
I’m surprised more people aren’t fighting for what’s right. How can SO many people not see what is happening? How can they not see that everything Q has showed us and that we should stand for seems to have just been forgotten? How can so many people not see the same deep state tactics in NR that they saw in Jerome Corsi. Like you said, people become blinded over people that become big. Those are the most dangerous. They are by far a bigger threat because their fans listen to them.
I’m left with just believing it’s somehow going to work out. Hoping the truth comes to light. I’m just going to keep doing what I’m doing. I’m not giving up. People like you and your words of encouragement help keep me focused on the goal. So thank you very much! 🇺🇸❤️
You’ve only been here 6 months? You sure learned Voat well!
divine_human ago
honey, you are trapped if you rely on others changing something. it doesnt work out. we need to change ourselves, then others adjust to it or fuck off.
holding a grudge is like drinking poison and hoping that the other person is going to die from it.
forgiveness is not important for them but for you we dont forgive to make it easier for others but for ourselves. unburdening. asking someone for forgiveness is actually asking for a permission to forgive ourselves. and asking them to apologize is getting dependant on others for our wellbeing. thats BS, nobody is responsible for how we feel.
that being said, i am much more worried by people like NR who play the guru-game and manipulate their followership than by the former r/GA mods. with transparent mod logs, there is not much power abuse possible, at least not behind closed doors.
and just take it as the vibes of this time that lies and abuse dont work anymore as they did in the past; whatever nefarious shit the chaos crew sets up, eventually it backfires and the truth comes out.
just keep standing straight and making your point... this is not a popularity contest, this is simple a gorgeous playing field where people can choose which menu they like best.
two weeks only, heheh... subscribed after CBTS got banned but didnt engage here until rystalnacht. two weeks of swimming in the voat pool and listening to what old goats say gave me a pretty good grip on how things work here and which underlying currents determine the playing field.
srayzie ago
Thank you. You’re a smart cookie. 🍪 My favorite kind. Chocolate chip. 😁❤️🇺🇸