(Old goats, you are invited to add your piece or correct me where I'm wrong. I take this opportunity to express my gratitude for opening your doors and teaching us - even if pretty roughly at times, lol - about Voat culture.)
“Q sent us here”, is what I hear from many GA-Reddit refugees on v/QRV. Great that you made it here, welcome… hopefully, this post will help you to easier find your way around here...
Voat has three main Q subverses that I will talk about in another post. Suffice to say for now; you can access the feed of all these three sistersubs in a set the Voat-admin created here https://voat.co/s/GreatAwakening. (Notice the ‘s’ before the dash instead of the usual v/)
This post is intended to focus on the relationship between Q-people and the Voat community. Let's end this 'us vs. them' bullshit.
We came as refugees to the only free speech zone on a public social media platform besides the chans. Voat has a similar interface to Reddit so it’s easier to use for people who don’t find their way around 8chan.
There are some major differences between Voat and Reddit that confuse and irritate new goats (term for Voat users who perceive many Redditors as sheep) which need to be understood, in order to easily integrate.
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Public moderation logs are default, their links can be found down below in the sidebar. On Reddit, only a few rare subs make their mod logs transparent as they show all removals and bans so the moderator’s actions are under constant surveillance by community (prevents secret mod power abuse and censoring).
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Free speech brings about interesting information but also a lot of trolling, insults, cursing, strange images; things one may not want to see or hear. It’s a call to putting on our big boys/gals pants, toughen up, stop taking everything personally, and speaking our heart and mind. No political correctness on Voat, take it or leave it.
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Voat is so much smaller than Reddit that many users don’t go to specific subs but scan the v/all page which displays all public subs in one feed. If you go there, you will see that right now, a majority of the posts are from the Q-subs. Just for a moment, put yourself into the shoes of the old goats. How would you feel, esp. if you were a Q-sceptic?
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In order to post, you need 10 CCP (comment contribution points), in order to downvote (downvoat), you need 100 CCP. This works against spam and downvoat brigades but is annoying for genuine Redditors who only want to engage on /QRV where you can’t earn or lose CCP because of anonymization. The system is also designed to invite people to engage with the greater Voat community. A few interesting or funny comments outside of the ‘ghetto’ will give you the required CCP within a few days. Annoying, yes, but that’s the culture here so we have to accept it and better stop fighting it over and over again.
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Unlike Reddit where you receive a default upvote for each comment (automatically upvoting yourself with ‘1’), your comments on Voat start at ‘0’. You can’t blabber ‘your way up’ in solitude; you need to communicate with the goats. In the process, you will learn Voat culture and understand some of the issues that come up with the Q-people.
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Vote farming is despised and all attempts to manipulate the voting system – as in creating a sub or alts with the intent to earn CCP – are being called out and downvoated. Engage genuinely and you will be accepted and ‘rewarded’.
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Due to its size, the Voat community cares about all of its subs. When a new sub is modded in a censoring way – as happened with v/TheAwakening whwere, after 2 days, the mod log for bans was 8 pages long -, old goats flood in to make people aware, call out the mods, and troll the shit out of the sub. If the owner of one of their subs gets smeared without evidence of wrong-doing - as happened with v/GreatAwakening -, the goats take it as an attack on their entire community and fight back.
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New people and subs seem to traditionally get challenged with ‘free speech smears' so you will stumble upon a lot of ‘niggerfaggot’ and ‘it’s all the Jew’s fault’ stuff. It’s like a test: how politically correct and brainwashed are you? Are you fit for free-speech Voat or a ‘normie’? If you deal with it intelligently, it’ll stop after a few days. If you fight it or react with outrage, it will persist.
That being said, Voat land is somewhat similar to Reddit but essentially different in a few aspects as its basic principle is honoring the 1st amendment. That’s not easy to take for some Redditors who are used to being ‘protected’ from unwanted content by moderators who do or do not work with their subscribers’ best intent at heart.
Now step into the Voat land citizens shoes for a moment...
It’s like Europe and the refugee crisis which, over time, got renamed to ‘migrant crisis’. Note: Refugees leave when the crisis is over, migrants stay and need to integrate, in order to peacefully live next to each other.
Like Europe – first ‘invaded’ by the ME, now by Africa -, Voat experienced two floods of Reddit refugees. (Btw, Q-people are not the first refugee flood to Voat; Wikipedia gives a synopsis of former migrations.)
The first flood happened on Rystalnacht, Sept.12, when the mods of Reddit GA created v/TheAwakening right after Reddits BigBan. It created lots of upheaval that stirred the pot against the ‘Q-invasion’. (Let’s talk about this in more detail in another post. If you want to search Voat on it or anything else, use https://searchvoat.co)
The second flood came on and after Sep.21, after Q asked the seemingly trusted board owner (BO) of 8chan to create a Voat sub – v/QRV - for the ex /GA/ Redditors (Q2269).
Both newly created subs don’t respect Voat culture, they both fucked with the voting system. TA corrected that after some days, QRV won’t correct it as it’s part of the anonymization feature.
Staying within the Europe refugee analogy, the first flood appeared like the installation of a ghetto under sharia law, and the second flood like full anarchy. That some members of these subs tend to behave accordingly is no surprise.
Long story short, Q-people from all subs but the first one – v/GA, which has existed here for 8 months – are refugees to Voat land and have to integrate with its culture else we are quickly being chased out of here again.
It’s up to us to choose to stay refugees or become migrants. When we stop fighting the goats and stop trying to take over the entire platform (there was some BS about Q-temple and 'taking back what's rightfully ours, arghhh), they will stop fighting us.
Let’s end this ‘Us vs. Them’ bullshit! It’s the playbook of the elite; ‘divide+conquer’ is their only way to keep us people in check. They chuckle about us right now while we blindly follow the strategy they have implanted into us to divide ourselves.
If you look around on Voat, you may discover quite a few people who live up to the same cause – liberation from slavery, re-gaining sovereignty – even if they are Q-sceptics.
There are more similarities between us than differences.
Back to the Europe analogy: Unlike many Europeans who tend to have vacations in various countries, many Americans never had the chance to travel outside of their country and culture so many of the refugees to Voat have no experience with integrating into a system they are not used to.
Here is the challenge.
Voat is like a house with many rooms and the Q-people inhabit three of them. (Yeah, there are smaller ones, too, i.E. v/Qbiblical, in case you want to talk religion.)
If we keep going with these stupid useless fights, in-between the Q-subs and with the Voat community, we are further away from ‘Time to Unite’ than ever. //They// managed to create an artificial dualistic division again instead of keeping us focused on the 1% that manipulate and enslave the 99%.
Wake up! Stop playing their game!
Voat has welcomed us, is testing us, and will chase us out if we keep fighting its culture and don’t integrate.
Never mind that some of the Voat trolls and many of the Reddit trolls who followed us to Voat instill division and spam the heck out of us. Witty comments, ignoring, or downvoating are the tools to deal with that.
It’s up to us to respond as mature conscious people and not as sleeping sheep that react according to their conditioning, fleeing the challenge or fighting back. Some wakefulness is required so we can make peace with our neighbors in this community house.
Welcome to Voat land! May you quickly and easily find your way around; you will meet some nice people who are great models when it comes to thinking for oneself and living without leaders to follow. It’s like a bridge to anarchic 8chan, if you so will. Can be quite a lot of fun here if you adjust…
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LostandFound ago
You might notice the lack of trolling in non anon subs. The only anon subs here prior to the integration were all utilised by paid shills to post cnn links etc.
So this is pretty new setup, though top credit to the mods like two posts taken down for voat farming is pretty decent overall considering the level of shite he had thrown at you.
Major concerns for us now are the sheer number of duplicate and low energy posts. We pride ourselves on providing detailed well linked, took me more than 10 seconds to make this, posts .. if its not just a direct link. No imgur links please it relays tracking info to reddit / prism.
Other areas of problem integration are voat generally abhors following someone blindly... which is kinda whats happening. Post a Q critique and get blasted. DJT has had an impressive run so far but we are no fools, george soros feathered Donalds family with as much cash as Hillary. Donalds face is on the new shekel. Donals family are all jewish now. So while we support his actions to date, actually most are having the time if their life with the liberal salt we cannot allow ourselves to be hoodwinked into an even worse position.
We have a right to be sceptical and were all going to have to get along. Q put you here for a reason and I think we all know what that reason was, the challenge of our lifetimes is not the demoncrats its who pulls the strings for both parties, its the question your not allowed to ask anywhere else.
divine_human ago
can you please name accepted alternatives? there is imgoat.com, what else is there?
i sense that when going through v/all. its an invasion, repetitive to the maxx, and annoys the crap out of me, too. 20 posts on kavanaugh on each of the 3 subs, heh? cant people look at what has already been posted and chime in there instead of creating a new post for every fart? grrrrr.
personally, i decided to post pure information only on QRV and move with stuff that i want to deeper discuss to GA. TA is pretty much out of the picture. i simply expect Q-people to go to the combined sub s/GreatAwakening or view v/all so they wont miss anything.
yep. seems like most people havent learned to discuss with people of other opinion in a civil mature way. the interview between jordan sather and An0maly could be a good teaching here.
heheh, i so get it! exchanging one leader against another but staying following sheep. arghhh. lots of work to do here...
i get that, too. we need to stay awake and flexible so we really become sovereign and not exchange one swamp against a possible other one.
there ye go... its not left vs. right, its about swamp vs. everybody else. lets see whether or not these questions are allowed to ask here^^...
LostandFound ago
Thanks for your reply, I would respond in more detail but I am on the move right now. Just good to know that I am not alone in my thoughts on this. Things are dying down now thankfully and we all seem to be interacting a bit better. I asked the new Qs to chip in a few quid and I think it raised a grand or two so they can stay theres just more house training to do.
Alts to imgur, imgtc.com imgflip catbox.moe imgbb tinypic - im sure goats will throw up a valid objection to most of those on some level but its just a means to an end really!
divine_human ago
i take it that a majority of the Q-people align with your take when you explain it. its the few self-proclaimed 'leaders', trolls, and whiners who sream foul every step on the way.
ty for the hints. i received a heavy 'dont sent us to imgur, dumbass!' and learned my lesson, heheh.
thing with imgoat is that you cant paste the screenshot into it but need an image software. as i dont want to start photoshop every time i press the 'print' key, i go to imgur first, let it create the img, and use the given link to upload to imogat them. a bit of a pain in the ass, but if it keeps surveillance eyes off of Voat, i am ready to take the effort.
Hand_of_Node ago
Imgoat has been down for me for a couple weeks. I suspect it had to do with that CP someone kept posting.