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speedisavirus ago

Yeah, you realize that 1) that only impacts military members and none of them are currently implicated in anything serious and 2) there is nothing of note in this that has any implications you claim.

Blacksmith21 ago

You do realize you are 100% wrong, don't you? Anyone implicated can be categorized as an enemy combatant, civilian or military, and can be tried under UCMJ.

speedisavirus ago

It's almost like they aren't just going to start randomly calling everyone enemy combatants. We don't even do that to actual spies we catch. Article 2 exactly states who is eligible. And even just declaring them enemy combatants isn't enough. We have to be at a state of war.

(1) Members of a regular component of the armed forces, including those awaiting discharge after expiration of their terms of enlistment; volunteers from the time of their muster or acceptance into the armed forces; inductees from the time of their actual induction into the armed forces; and other persons lawfully called or ordered into, or to duty in or for training in, the armed forces, from the dates when they are required by the terms of the call or order to obey it.

(2) Cadets, aviation cadets, and midshipmen.

(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal service.

(4) Retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay.

(5) Retired members of a reserve component who are receiving hospitalization from an armed force.

(6) Members of the Fleet Reserve and Fleet Marine Corps Reserve.

(7) Persons in custody of the armed forces serving a sentence imposed by a court-martial.

(8) Members of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Ad-ministration, Public Health Service, and other organizations, when assigned to and serving with the armed forces.

(9) Prisoners of war in custody of the armed forces.

(10) In time of war, persons serving with or accompanying an armed force in the field.

(11) Subject to any treaty or agreement to which the United States is or may be a party or to any accepted rule of international law, persons serving with, employed by, or accompanying the armed forces outside the United States and outside the Common-wealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.

(12) Subject to any treaty or agreement to which the United States is or may be a party or to any accepted rule of international law, persons within an area leased by or otherwise reserved or acquired for the use of the United States which is under the control of the Secretary concerned and which is outside the United States and outside the Canal Zone, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Virgin Islands.

Blacksmith21 ago

You might want to review 10 U.S.C. § 311 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 10. Armed Forces § 311. Militia:  composition and classes -

(a)  The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32 , under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b)  The classes of the militia are--

(1)  the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia;  and

(2)  the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

You may want to also review this from Duke Law: https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1309&context=faculty_scholarship

POTUS also reserves the right to determine who is or is not an enemy combatant. The revisions to UCMJ are designed to be able to incorporate civilians as necessary.

speedisavirus ago

Nothing you said resolves what I said. This is not going to be applicable to the bad actors. At all. No amount of posting text that doesn't support you is going to change that.

speedisavirus ago

Totes. Random retard with a wordpress site is more reliable than the actual fucking text for the UCMJ.

Shizy ago

You're using the word "totes" yet you call someone else a retard? That's pretty retarded!

Blacksmith21 ago

Is that one of those little recycled bags one carries their groceries in? Or one of those little gay umbrellas?

Shizy ago

I'm thinking little gay umbrella maybe, but I'm no expert on all things gay. Maybe speedisavirus can help us out 😂

thisistotallynotme ago

I/we expect better from you. Quit acting like a 15yo girl in a group bitchiness competition.

@Blacksmith21 pushes out an irrelevant section of US Code about the militia, and pretends it says anything about POTUS' discretion to name enemy combatants.

And four retards upvoated him for it, because they didn't know what the fuck was being said, but it sounded smart.

I've probably downvoated @speedisavirus more than anyone on this site, but he's right here. Nothing @Blacksmith21 said resolved what was said by @speedisavirus.

Frankly, I'm a little mad that I had to be the one to defend the faggot.

Shizy ago

Then don't defend the "faggot"! For some reason you felt you needed to, that's fine, but don't blame me! @blacksmith21 is am awesome contributor and this "faggot" wasn't satisfied with the info provided so he calls blacksmith a retard?! Ok, no big deal, then it's also no big deal if I point out he sounds retarded too. He's a big boy, I think he can handle being made fun of for using a word my 7 year old heard on a retarded Disney show!

thisistotallynotme ago

Classy Downvoat/reply. I expect better from you. I'm not sure why you're being so disappointing in this thread. You're smarter/better than this exchange.

Shizy ago

Sorry to disappoint again, DAD! 😂! I mean really, I don't quite understand why you're so bothered by what I do. Or is the proper word we're using "triggered"? The speed guy was the first to lose that exchange because he resorted to calling blacksmith a retard. I see nothing wrong with pointing out the stupidity of that. Blacksmith has been here a long time and is a good contributor. He doesn't deserve the name calling. If defending people I respect from undeserved name calling puts me in the bitchy 15 year old girl club then sign me up!

thisistotallynotme ago

We're not talking about @Blacksmith21's actions in the past. We're talking about this thread right now.

Normally, I'm not bothered by what you do. I've given you literally dozens of upvoats since you joined a year and a half ago.

It's when you want to take a side so badly, that you'll compromise your own stance and reputation in order to take that side, that I state disappointment in you. Unfortunately, in this case that's exactly what happened. Your maternal whiteknight instincts kicked in and you threw out reason and accountability in the process.

I'm here to make you listen to reason, and be accountable for your actions. Quit being a bandwagoning douchecanoe and recognize when the person you're defending has nothing of substance to say.

Shizy ago

I didn't take a position on the subject they were arguing one way or another. That wasn't the point. Again, the point was virus was the first to throw out the oldie yet goodie "retard", and as such he lost the argument. You are free to think whatever you want and have your opinion. Normally I like what you have to say. I also like dads, I just don't need one anymore.

thisistotallynotme ago

If you were taking a position on the subject, I wouldn't have made a post in the first place. But you didn't; you took a side against a person. That's a-paddlin'.

Love,
Dad

Shizy ago

I disagree that I was taking a position on the subject. I took a position on someone resorting to name calling because they couldn't argue their point. I wasn't writing that as a mod, just as a regular poster, which I'm allowed to do. Why don't you go jump srayzies shit for the things she writes. Or any of the other mods on voat for that matter! Actually don't, srayzie has enough she deals with. I will instead pass along that her husband needs to spank her!!! oh and don't worry, my husband of all people knows how badly I need them too, but he knows I'm feisty and will get him back if he tries it 🤣!

thisistotallynotme ago

have an upvoat for disagreement.