One of the few groups actively pushing to protect access to abortion.
One of the best groups pushing for proper contraceptive use, and accessibility. If you want to prevent abortions and sexually transmitted diseases, you want to promote contraceptives.
but if they say its your right to experience sexual pleasure, aren't they kind of encouraging sexual activity? everyone knows the best contraceptive is celibacy, so if they really wanted to "prevent abortions" why wouldn't they discourage "sexual activity" outside of wedlock?
to me, since they profit off of harvesting organs, its like they want to encourage sex since the only way to get those juicy fetus organs is through making mistakes in the bedroom. and nothing says "dealbreaker" like a potential partner who is HIV-positive
are you going to say its the government's (aka taxpayer's) job to be responsible for people who are irresponsibly bearing children they cannot take care of? if my taxes are going to something like that, id at least like a say in what a tax-funded agency should encourage. and in my opinion, if people want to "prevent abortions" don't encourage them to indulge in something they are to irresponsible to practice correctly. you may not like that p0ssum but that's because youre a liberal drone who's been brainwashed by soros
They don't, never did.
yes they do, but please, stay in denial
Yes, yes, that must be it, nothing to go with helping women.
helping women. ha. the agency without even a mammogram machine in one facility is for helping women's health. this is just Abortions, Inc. and they are hungry for more stem cells to sell to labs.
are you going to say its the government's (aka taxpayer's) job to be responsible for people who are irresponsibly bearing children they cannot take care of?
No, Im saying you worry about yours and I'll worry about mine. When I want your opinion about what is going on in my life. I'll ask.
yes they do, but please, stay in denial
Show me proof they made a profit selling organs ... I'll wait.
the agency without even a mammogram machine in one facility is for helping women's health.
Most womens health clinics don't have a mammogram, it's an expensive piece of machinery unneeded for 85% of womens needs.
this is just Abortions, Inc. and they are hungry for more stem cells to sell to labs.
Despite the fact they no longer do this, even though they never did if for a profit and that abortions are less than 3% of the business they do...
for the lazy: "The pathologist, who ultimately went to prison for tax evasion and died in 2013, revealed that average fetal tissue sample or organ cost his firm, Opening Lines, “just $50, plus overhead – but that he charges an average of $250. The law only talks about recovering costs. But on a single fetus, Jones said he can make $2,500.”"
and: "Besides the hidden camera video, the journalist featured two whistleblowers: Dean Alberty, who used to work for Opening Lines and the Anatomic Gift Foundation (AGF), another firm that obtained organs from aborted babies (and later served as an informant for the pro-life group Life Dynamics); and Ross Capps, who also worked for AGF. Alberty revealed that “abortions were altered to get better tissue” – something that Planned Parenthood officials also admitted to in the Center for Medical Progress videos."
so yea, they're mining fetus tissue, not just aborting a cluster of cells which I have no problem with.
No, Im saying you worry about yours and I'll worry about mine. When I want your opinion about what is going on in my life. I'll ask.
what your idiot brain doesnt understand is that there is no "worry about yours" and "worry about mine" when the government is using our tax dollars to fund this. so its not a matter of choice, its a matter of pay taxes so we can fund this OR ELSE.
they never did if for a profit
says you. I provided my links. give me some proof they never did it for a profit.
he pathologist, who ultimately went to prison for tax evasion and died in 2013, revealed that average fetal tissue sample or organ cost his firm, Opening Lines, “just $50, plus overhead – but that he charges an average of $250. The law only talks about recovering costs. But on a single fetus, Jones said he can make $2,500.”
You fucking moron, those are the people BUYING the tissue FROM Planned Parenthood, and he's talking about how little they charge. How fucking stupid can you be. Thanks for proving my point.
what your idiot brain doesnt understand is that there is no "worry about yours" and "worry about mine" when the government is using our tax dollars to fund this. so its not a matter of choice, its a matter of pay taxes so we can fund this OR ELSE.
They aren't and haven't been since the Hyde amendment, I'll bet you don't even know what that is.
says you. I provided my links. give me some proof they never did it for a profit.
No, says the LINK you yourself provided....
So, essentially, you provided nothing except for stuff that proved my point. Want to try again?
Yes, he BOUGHT stuff from Planned Parenthood, just as I said. I know what a winner he is, but it does absolutely NOTHING to prove your point, that PP profited from the selling of tissue. I have a hard time believing you are this fucking stupid and can breath without assistance.
They are CONTRACTED together. Meaning they are in BUSINESS together. Meaning they ARE harvesting and selling baby parts. Meaning I'm RIGHT you fucking moron. That's what I've been saying. Why can't they just abort the cluster of cells rather than letting it develop. Jesus Christ you're brainwashed
Meaning they ARE harvesting and selling baby parts. Meaning I'm RIGHT you fucking moron. That's what I've been saying.
No, you specifically said PP PROFITED from selling tissue, and then, to prove it, provided a link that shows that PP clearly DOESN'T profit and the tissue banks do.
Why can't they just abort the cluster of cells rather than letting it develop.
If it's going to be aborted, shouldn't it be used for something useful rather than being thrown away?
Jesus Christ you're brainwashed
Yes, I'm the brainwashed one. You're a fucking right-wing talking point, and I'm deluded.
What are you talking about doesn't prove that they profit? They're funded by the government with tax dollars to do their job and abort fetuses among other things. They then ask the mother if she wants to donate their tissues for scientific research. Then they CHARGE that scumbag money. He's a middle man. He pays for them and jacks up the prices because no one else really does this twisted business. They do in fact sell tissue for profit because they're getting tissue donated by the mothers who abort fetuses. What in the hell are you talking about? Do I need to spell it out?
Sale of fetal tissue - costs of acquisition = profit
They're funded by the government with tax dollars to do their job and abort fetuses among other things.
They are funded by the gov't, but not for abortions, which as I pointed out earlier is illegal per the Hyde amendment.
They then ask the mother if she wants to donate their tissues for scientific research. Then they CHARGE that scumbag money.
My god, you are so fucking misinformed it would be funny ... if you couldn't vote. No, PP harvest the tissue and they charge a processing fee. They then contract with a tissue bank, and provide the tissue to the bank. The tissue bank pays a pittance to PP for the tissue, and then sells it to research houses.
Again, answer the question, would you rather the tissue be thrown away, or used for medical research? Did you happen to skip you polio vaccine, which was created using fetal tissue?
Then they CHARGE that scumbag money.
What, didn't you read your own article, he PAYS PP for the tissue. So you are right, he is the middle man, but he's a buyer, he's purchasing the tissue from PP. Is that so hard to understand. Read your article again:
revealed that average fetal tissue sample or organ cost his firm
So, let's work on on reading comprehension. "Cost his firm", sure sounds like he is PAYING for it, not being paid for it as your delusion seems to imply.
He's a middle man. He pays for them and jacks up the prices because no one else really does this twisted business.
Who the fuck do you think he's selling this to, fucking voodoo doctors? No, scientists pay good money because it's important for research.
They do in fact sell tissue for profit because they're getting tissue donated by the mothers who abort fetuses.
And they previously collected a small processing fee, but that doesn't show a profit. Their annual reports are available online.
Sale of fetal tissue - costs of acquisition = profit
You forgot processing and handling, you don't just send the stuff via USPS you fucking moron.
ARE YOU STUPID.
I'm clearly brighter than you, that being said, if I'm stupid, where do you land on the list?
Show me proof they made a profit selling organs ... I'll wait.
Then I came back with this quote from the article I linked:
The pathologist, who ultimately went to prison for tax evasion and died in 2013, revealed that average fetal tissue sample or organ cost his firm, Opening Lines, “just $50, plus overhead..."
see that "$50, plus overhead" part? that's how much he paid for the fetal tissue sample. Okay so this past comment you say:
What, didn't you read your own article, he PAYS PP for the tissue. So you are right, he is the middle man, but he's a buyer, he's purchasing the tissue from PP. Is that so hard to understand. Read your article again:
So, let's work on on reading comprehension. "Cost his firm", sure sounds like he is PAYING for it, not being paid for it as your delusion seems to imply.
Who the fuck do you think he's selling this to, fucking voodoo doctors? No, scientists pay good money because it's important for research.
but you're literally proving my point. you say "you are right, he is the middle man, but he's a buyer, he's purchasing the tissue from PP." exactly. thats exactly my point. going back to your original challenge:
Show me proof they made a profit selling organs ... I'll wait.
There you go. you looked at it yourself and admitted he was a buyer "purchasing the tissue from PP". The tissue was "donated" from mothers aborting their fetuses for scientific research, but instead of it actually being "donated" (donate: to give (money or goods) for a good cause, for example to a charity) it was SOLD to this buyer who jacked up the prices to sell to labs. Regardless of whether or not the government paid for the abortion (since the patient ends up paying for it), PP is getting the tissue free and selling it off.
But why would they do this? if they were really out for trying to promote scientific research, you'd think a "nonprofit" organization like PP would end up just giving it to a research lab. Oh yea, I forgot that PP actually also donates funds to federal election campaigns. How could they ever afford to do that without pawning off a couple of dead baby parts? Funny how an agency that is MOSTLY (note i said mostly since you've been nagging me on that) government-funded, throws that money back into the election cycle with a left-leaning bias. weird. almost as if its just one big liberal scheme.
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farmer- ago
someone explain why we need planned parenthood
facepaint ago
One of the few groups actively pushing to protect access to abortion.
One of the best groups pushing for proper contraceptive use, and accessibility. If you want to prevent abortions and sexually transmitted diseases, you want to promote contraceptives.
farmer- ago
but if they say its your right to experience sexual pleasure, aren't they kind of encouraging sexual activity? everyone knows the best contraceptive is celibacy, so if they really wanted to "prevent abortions" why wouldn't they discourage "sexual activity" outside of wedlock?
to me, since they profit off of harvesting organs, its like they want to encourage sex since the only way to get those juicy fetus organs is through making mistakes in the bedroom. and nothing says "dealbreaker" like a potential partner who is HIV-positive
p0ssum ago
Are you REALLY going to say it isn't? WTF country is this again?
They don't, never did.
Yes, yes, that must be it, nothing to go with helping women.
farmer- ago
are you going to say its the government's (aka taxpayer's) job to be responsible for people who are irresponsibly bearing children they cannot take care of? if my taxes are going to something like that, id at least like a say in what a tax-funded agency should encourage. and in my opinion, if people want to "prevent abortions" don't encourage them to indulge in something they are to irresponsible to practice correctly. you may not like that p0ssum but that's because youre a liberal drone who's been brainwashed by soros
yes they do, but please, stay in denial
helping women. ha. the agency without even a mammogram machine in one facility is for helping women's health. this is just Abortions, Inc. and they are hungry for more stem cells to sell to labs.
p0ssum ago
No, Im saying you worry about yours and I'll worry about mine. When I want your opinion about what is going on in my life. I'll ask.
Show me proof they made a profit selling organs ... I'll wait.
Most womens health clinics don't have a mammogram, it's an expensive piece of machinery unneeded for 85% of womens needs.
Despite the fact they no longer do this, even though they never did if for a profit and that abortions are less than 3% of the business they do...
And Im the one in denial....
farmer- ago
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/07/planned-parenthood-has-been-selling-body-parts-from-aborted-babies-for-at-least-15-years/
for the lazy: "The pathologist, who ultimately went to prison for tax evasion and died in 2013, revealed that average fetal tissue sample or organ cost his firm, Opening Lines, “just $50, plus overhead – but that he charges an average of $250. The law only talks about recovering costs. But on a single fetus, Jones said he can make $2,500.”"
and: "Besides the hidden camera video, the journalist featured two whistleblowers: Dean Alberty, who used to work for Opening Lines and the Anatomic Gift Foundation (AGF), another firm that obtained organs from aborted babies (and later served as an informant for the pro-life group Life Dynamics); and Ross Capps, who also worked for AGF. Alberty revealed that “abortions were altered to get better tissue” – something that Planned Parenthood officials also admitted to in the Center for Medical Progress videos."
so yea, they're mining fetus tissue, not just aborting a cluster of cells which I have no problem with.
what your idiot brain doesnt understand is that there is no "worry about yours" and "worry about mine" when the government is using our tax dollars to fund this. so its not a matter of choice, its a matter of pay taxes so we can fund this OR ELSE.
says you. I provided my links. give me some proof they never did it for a profit.
p0ssum ago
You fucking moron, those are the people BUYING the tissue FROM Planned Parenthood, and he's talking about how little they charge. How fucking stupid can you be. Thanks for proving my point.
They aren't and haven't been since the Hyde amendment, I'll bet you don't even know what that is.
No, says the LINK you yourself provided....
So, essentially, you provided nothing except for stuff that proved my point. Want to try again?
farmer- ago
Dr. Miles Jones held a contract with planned parenthood, retard. He's been peddling baby parts for around fifteen years. Look him up, he's a swell guy
p0ssum ago
Yes, he BOUGHT stuff from Planned Parenthood, just as I said. I know what a winner he is, but it does absolutely NOTHING to prove your point, that PP profited from the selling of tissue. I have a hard time believing you are this fucking stupid and can breath without assistance.
farmer- ago
They are CONTRACTED together. Meaning they are in BUSINESS together. Meaning they ARE harvesting and selling baby parts. Meaning I'm RIGHT you fucking moron. That's what I've been saying. Why can't they just abort the cluster of cells rather than letting it develop. Jesus Christ you're brainwashed
p0ssum ago
No, he held a contract to BUY tissue from PP.
No, you specifically said PP PROFITED from selling tissue, and then, to prove it, provided a link that shows that PP clearly DOESN'T profit and the tissue banks do.
If it's going to be aborted, shouldn't it be used for something useful rather than being thrown away?
Yes, I'm the brainwashed one. You're a fucking right-wing talking point, and I'm deluded.
farmer- ago
What are you talking about doesn't prove that they profit? They're funded by the government with tax dollars to do their job and abort fetuses among other things. They then ask the mother if she wants to donate their tissues for scientific research. Then they CHARGE that scumbag money. He's a middle man. He pays for them and jacks up the prices because no one else really does this twisted business. They do in fact sell tissue for profit because they're getting tissue donated by the mothers who abort fetuses. What in the hell are you talking about? Do I need to spell it out?
Sale of fetal tissue - costs of acquisition = profit
ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY - $0 = PROFIT
ARE YOU STUPID.
p0ssum ago
They are funded by the gov't, but not for abortions, which as I pointed out earlier is illegal per the Hyde amendment.
My god, you are so fucking misinformed it would be funny ... if you couldn't vote. No, PP harvest the tissue and they charge a processing fee. They then contract with a tissue bank, and provide the tissue to the bank. The tissue bank pays a pittance to PP for the tissue, and then sells it to research houses.
Again, answer the question, would you rather the tissue be thrown away, or used for medical research? Did you happen to skip you polio vaccine, which was created using fetal tissue?
What, didn't you read your own article, he PAYS PP for the tissue. So you are right, he is the middle man, but he's a buyer, he's purchasing the tissue from PP. Is that so hard to understand. Read your article again:
So, let's work on on reading comprehension. "Cost his firm", sure sounds like he is PAYING for it, not being paid for it as your delusion seems to imply.
Who the fuck do you think he's selling this to, fucking voodoo doctors? No, scientists pay good money because it's important for research.
And they previously collected a small processing fee, but that doesn't show a profit. Their annual reports are available online.
You forgot processing and handling, you don't just send the stuff via USPS you fucking moron.
I'm clearly brighter than you, that being said, if I'm stupid, where do you land on the list?
farmer- ago
Originally you said:
Then I came back with this quote from the article I linked:
see that "$50, plus overhead" part? that's how much he paid for the fetal tissue sample. Okay so this past comment you say:
but you're literally proving my point. you say "you are right, he is the middle man, but he's a buyer, he's purchasing the tissue from PP." exactly. thats exactly my point. going back to your original challenge:
There you go. you looked at it yourself and admitted he was a buyer "purchasing the tissue from PP". The tissue was "donated" from mothers aborting their fetuses for scientific research, but instead of it actually being "donated" (donate: to give (money or goods) for a good cause, for example to a charity) it was SOLD to this buyer who jacked up the prices to sell to labs. Regardless of whether or not the government paid for the abortion (since the patient ends up paying for it), PP is getting the tissue free and selling it off.
But why would they do this? if they were really out for trying to promote scientific research, you'd think a "nonprofit" organization like PP would end up just giving it to a research lab. Oh yea, I forgot that PP actually also donates funds to federal election campaigns. How could they ever afford to do that without pawning off a couple of dead baby parts? Funny how an agency that is MOSTLY (note i said mostly since you've been nagging me on that) government-funded, throws that money back into the election cycle with a left-leaning bias. weird. almost as if its just one big liberal scheme.
p0ssum ago
LOL, your stupid is too tiring. Have a happy holiday.
farmer- ago
gotcha p0ssum. it gets so boring just winning against you all the time
p0ssum ago
lol