Here's a video about BLM burning ranchers land. Go to 3:18. It will give a bit of perspective on what has been going on out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zvrrQbjepc
I think their goal is to screw with our minds as much as possible. It seems like everything is usually the opposite. One day they will flip the script and our minds will go haywire.
2 guys served less than 1 year sentences for arson (2 fires started on their land that spread to federal land in 2001 and 2004) then were sentenced again for the same crime, this time for 5 years.
The federal government has bought most of the land in the area leaving only a few stubborn ranchers.
A few guys with guns are doing what they call armed protesting by occupying a federal building on federal land.
The arson guys reported to jail on time and their lawyer made a statement distancing them from the protesters.
No violence has occurred yet.
The FBI has been caught doing sneaky things in the area like commandeering a section of a hospital, stocking up on blood, and pretending to be protesters.
There is very little dialog between the protesters and the FBI/BLM.
They will raid that compound and either arrest or kill anyone there. and as far as the media goes.....it will be briefly summarized as "containing hostile terrorist" and then swept under the rug by something else happening in the media, like black lives matter or some other racial uproar.
Dont hold your breath. Look at how they did Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge. All he had to do was not show up to court on a bullshit charge, and they ended up killing his kid, his wife, and shooting him and his family friend. What happened to the shooter, Lon Horiuchi? Charges dropped. The surviving Weavers? Paid off. Fuck the fed
The FBI have been trying to bait them into shit for the last 2 weeks now. Posing as part of the militia, acting out in town to give them a bad name and turn people against them, removing a state worker's trailer he lives in while off season. They have been found out though, so I guess they are just going straight for the attack since their "psychological warfare" isn't working as well as they hoped.
You have to be a 100% brain dead sheeple to believe this crap. There was a video on liveleak about the militia finding hidden cameras and the comments were unbelievable. They were saying that they hope the gov shoots these people and other crazy crap. I'd say 99% of the comments were saying anti militia/pro gov things. I'd like to believe they were all shills, but they probably weren't.
It's totally disgusting. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the comments on the Oregonian/Oregon Live website is abhorrent. People calling for them to be killed, for the government to go in and Waco them, the rampant anti-white sentiment, people saying what the Malheur movement is doing is unconstitutional, un-American. These people are the biggest piece of shit hypocrites I have ever seen. It's ok for them to hang off a fucking bridge to protest an oil exploration vessel leaving the port of Portland, stopping traffic and obstructing a shipping lane, to protest for black lives matter, to protest gay rights, to protest saving a tree from getting cut down by chaining themselves to it, even though it was on private property. They even had rallies against the Malheur occupiers because they care more about the fed govt taking land from people for refuges than they care about the over reach of government. They scream from the rooftops how violent the occupiers are and how they don't represent them, but the occupiers have been nothing but peaceful. The only reason they are losing their minds is because they have guns with them, legally I might add. Fuck those whining hypocrites and the horse they rode in on, oh sorry, bike. Heaven forbid they ride a horse, I'm sure it's cruelty to animals. rolls eyes
Lets just hope most of those comments are from gov shills. If the majority of people think that way then we are royally screwed. I honestly think a lot of it's the gov trying to influence opinion. I've heard that they make up fake polls for the news to
influence people. A lot of people (if not most) will change their opinion if it appears to be unpopular.
This situation is probably deemed as dangerous to the gov. I think that's why they're shilling like crazy. They gov loves black lives matter and similar because that gets us fighting amongst ourselves and the attention off the gov. Divide and conquer is their favorite tactic.
When this started the difference between the reddit story and the voat story was significant. If I only had heard the reddit version, I would have believed radicals committed arson in a lush wildlife refuge then created an armed standoff to avoid going to jail. People who understand the story that way will have wildly different opinions than those who hear Voat's version. Also there are a lot of shills.
James Comey is the FBI director, and i'm still looking for who is in charge in Burns. Gregory T. Bretzing is the head of their portland office, seems to be the closest one.
Not trying to be an ass. But if you're going to look like you're trying to show an interest in what's going on around you. A little effort would be nice. How are you ever going to be able to debate anything if you don't know all sides
The important part is at the beginning, probably the first few minutes. I quoted half or more of what was said in the comment above. I'll edit to tell everyone it's at the beginning.
Edit: Important part is within the first 5 minutes of video. This is all coming from a militia member to Pete Santilli.
"We understand and have been told by multiple sources that the hospital has ordered double to triple the order of blood and plasma supply to be brought in by the FBI. Extra medical staff is being brought on duty by outlying counties. The FBI brought in their own combat surgical team to be stationed here. We have confirmation that newly arrived war assets are sitting in Boise at (Galwin?) air force base....." And they go on to say more.
It appears that they think the feds are getting ready to raid.
You could be very right about that. It's definitely something they would do. I think these guys are all pretty level headed, or at least they seem that way.
I get the same vibe about them. They're certainly trying to start shit, but (imo) if they were just stupid and angry, shots would have been fired by now.
Another thought that occurred to me recently: Remember the article claiming they had been infiltrated by FBI agents? It would be pretty amusing to me if they leaked that on purpose, have no agents on the inside, and they're just waiting to cause witch hunts and suspicion of newcomers who might be real believers in their cause.
Man, psychological warfare can (quite ironiclly) be a mindfuck to think about.
You sir are a fucking genius! Albert Einstein aint got shit on you! I'm not being facetious, anything to take the headline off of Hillary! that is exactly what they are doing!
They start with right wing shit. That's where the Hillary campaign knows that she has the most enemies
Then it will perculate into the right wing trying to sabotage her... Then she will try to blame it on some of the socialist of the left wing party... because Bernie Sanders is a self admitted socialist. And who knows what's next??
Mylon ago
Well said, /u/United_s... Wait, mind blown!
un1ty ago
Violence was used to coerce the public opinion on a political matter? What violence? The scary guns they had?
Sciency ago
Sorry, when you day "these men" I take it you mean the FBI? If so, I agree completely.
Obesity ago
Maybe by Anderson Cooper's definition.
Sciency ago
Well I'm pretty sure the power was cut, but they do have generators.
eyeswide0pen ago
I don't trust anonymous either. I'm sure there are tons of anonymous people that aren't with the gov, but they are being used by the gov IMO.
eyeswide0pen ago
Here's a video about BLM burning ranchers land. Go to 3:18. It will give a bit of perspective on what has been going on out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zvrrQbjepc
Obesity ago
The media really wants you to hate these nonviolent white folk.
They want to to ignore the 5 "youths" gangraping a girl at gunpoint in NYC and the hundreds of attacks in Europe.
The media is even trying to call these guys terrorists without even a hint of hypocrisy like the deceptive snakes they are.
eyeswide0pen ago
I think their goal is to screw with our minds as much as possible. It seems like everything is usually the opposite. One day they will flip the script and our minds will go haywire.
RedditIsPropaganda23 ago
Fuck the traitorous Feds.
CowWithBeef ago
2 guys served less than 1 year sentences for arson (2 fires started on their land that spread to federal land in 2001 and 2004) then were sentenced again for the same crime, this time for 5 years.
The federal government has bought most of the land in the area leaving only a few stubborn ranchers.
A few guys with guns are doing what they call armed protesting by occupying a federal building on federal land.
The arson guys reported to jail on time and their lawyer made a statement distancing them from the protesters.
No violence has occurred yet.
The FBI has been caught doing sneaky things in the area like commandeering a section of a hospital, stocking up on blood, and pretending to be protesters.
There is very little dialog between the protesters and the FBI/BLM.
3983240? ago
"A few guys with guns are doing what they call armed protesting by occupying a federal building on federal land."
Is this correct? Also was that blonde girl right when she said the federal government is not legally allowed to own land so Sayeth the Consitution?
gramman74 ago
I bet there is a strange suicide.... in his near future..?
You can't say that shit and let them see your face! Wtf?
New_years_day ago
They will raid that compound and either arrest or kill anyone there. and as far as the media goes.....it will be briefly summarized as "containing hostile terrorist" and then swept under the rug by something else happening in the media, like black lives matter or some other racial uproar.
antiplebbitor ago
Visibility upgoat.
There will be no more free Wacos. No more free Ruby Ridges. None. Not another free Rainbow farm.
jerry ago
Dont hold your breath. Look at how they did Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge. All he had to do was not show up to court on a bullshit charge, and they ended up killing his kid, his wife, and shooting him and his family friend. What happened to the shooter, Lon Horiuchi? Charges dropped. The surviving Weavers? Paid off. Fuck the fed
antiplebbitor ago
Never again.
jerry ago
We'll see. We'll also see if its swept under the rug again. Whos to say it hasnt happened again that we know of?
antiplebbitor ago
To quote the inestimable C. R. Wilson: "Civil War."
gramman74 ago
Oregon will be the litmus test. I have spent 11 years stocking up on firearms and ammunition.
reivin ago
The FBI have been trying to bait them into shit for the last 2 weeks now. Posing as part of the militia, acting out in town to give them a bad name and turn people against them, removing a state worker's trailer he lives in while off season. They have been found out though, so I guess they are just going straight for the attack since their "psychological warfare" isn't working as well as they hoped.
TheDude2 ago
Most people have no idea about the lies being perpetuated by the FBI.
eyeswide0pen ago
I think they're also using this as propaganda. It seems like they want people to think that fighting against tyranny is terrorism. Did you see the whole "ya'll quaeda" thing? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yall-qaeda-vanilla-isis_us_568a3421e4b06fa68882bb6d
You have to be a 100% brain dead sheeple to believe this crap. There was a video on liveleak about the militia finding hidden cameras and the comments were unbelievable. They were saying that they hope the gov shoots these people and other crazy crap. I'd say 99% of the comments were saying anti militia/pro gov things. I'd like to believe they were all shills, but they probably weren't.
sadam029 ago
They were shills at best, most likely bots though. Its funny and sad at the same time; watching people argue with computers.
WhoToldYouThat ago
-fighting against tyranny is terrorism
That was the plan all along.
reivin ago
It's totally disgusting. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the comments on the Oregonian/Oregon Live website is abhorrent. People calling for them to be killed, for the government to go in and Waco them, the rampant anti-white sentiment, people saying what the Malheur movement is doing is unconstitutional, un-American. These people are the biggest piece of shit hypocrites I have ever seen. It's ok for them to hang off a fucking bridge to protest an oil exploration vessel leaving the port of Portland, stopping traffic and obstructing a shipping lane, to protest for black lives matter, to protest gay rights, to protest saving a tree from getting cut down by chaining themselves to it, even though it was on private property. They even had rallies against the Malheur occupiers because they care more about the fed govt taking land from people for refuges than they care about the over reach of government. They scream from the rooftops how violent the occupiers are and how they don't represent them, but the occupiers have been nothing but peaceful. The only reason they are losing their minds is because they have guns with them, legally I might add. Fuck those whining hypocrites and the horse they rode in on, oh sorry, bike. Heaven forbid they ride a horse, I'm sure it's cruelty to animals. rolls eyes
eyeswide0pen ago
Lets just hope most of those comments are from gov shills. If the majority of people think that way then we are royally screwed. I honestly think a lot of it's the gov trying to influence opinion. I've heard that they make up fake polls for the news to influence people. A lot of people (if not most) will change their opinion if it appears to be unpopular.
This situation is probably deemed as dangerous to the gov. I think that's why they're shilling like crazy. They gov loves black lives matter and similar because that gets us fighting amongst ourselves and the attention off the gov. Divide and conquer is their favorite tactic.
sadam029 ago
Kinda like that poll saying the majority of "millennials" agree with limiting free speach?
CowWithBeef ago
When this started the difference between the reddit story and the voat story was significant. If I only had heard the reddit version, I would have believed radicals committed arson in a lush wildlife refuge then created an armed standoff to avoid going to jail. People who understand the story that way will have wildly different opinions than those who hear Voat's version. Also there are a lot of shills.
eyeswide0pen ago
That just goes to show how "mainstream" and controlled reddit is. Reddit can no longer be trusted, unless you're looking for cat videos.
Caboose_Calloway ago
The feds indeed do want another Waco. All those 'environmentalists' are obviously undercover FBI peons.
Who are the FBI people in the chain of command of that debacle? Just so that their names do not disappear from public memory.
Konran ago
Evidence of crisis actors now in place.
Caboose_Calloway ago
Yep. Exactly the same person.
I'm sure there are at least a thousand others like her on the scene, paid with your tax dollars. This is how narrative is manufactured.
ShineShooter ago
James Comey is the FBI director, and i'm still looking for who is in charge in Burns. Gregory T. Bretzing is the head of their portland office, seems to be the closest one.
EngelbertHumperdinck ago
tl;dw - Please summarize or link to the relevant time in the video.
edit: Thanks!
gramman74 ago
Not trying to be an ass. But if you're going to look like you're trying to show an interest in what's going on around you. A little effort would be nice. How are you ever going to be able to debate anything if you don't know all sides
Medicroger ago
Dude could have put a tiny bit of effort into summarising his video.
It was a lazy video.
Content was good but the delivery sucked.
Fat neck beard with sunglasses and sharp fedora was priceless.
eyeswide0pen ago
The important part is at the beginning, probably the first few minutes. I quoted half or more of what was said in the comment above. I'll edit to tell everyone it's at the beginning.
eyeswide0pen ago
Edit: Important part is within the first 5 minutes of video. This is all coming from a militia member to Pete Santilli.
"We understand and have been told by multiple sources that the hospital has ordered double to triple the order of blood and plasma supply to be brought in by the FBI. Extra medical staff is being brought on duty by outlying counties. The FBI brought in their own combat surgical team to be stationed here. We have confirmation that newly arrived war assets are sitting in Boise at (Galwin?) air force base....." And they go on to say more.
It appears that they think the feds are getting ready to raid.
toobaditworks ago
They'll raid after they stage a false flag attack blaming the militia of some sort of violence.
Sciency ago
I can't help but think that this might be nothing more than more mind games. Ordering extra blood and staff shifts isn't exactly covert norm...
Seems like such things were expected to leak, to keep the militia on edge. Maybe in order to provoke a first shot, who knows.
eyeswide0pen ago
You could be very right about that. It's definitely something they would do. I think these guys are all pretty level headed, or at least they seem that way.
Sciency ago
I get the same vibe about them. They're certainly trying to start shit, but (imo) if they were just stupid and angry, shots would have been fired by now.
Another thought that occurred to me recently: Remember the article claiming they had been infiltrated by FBI agents? It would be pretty amusing to me if they leaked that on purpose, have no agents on the inside, and they're just waiting to cause witch hunts and suspicion of newcomers who might be real believers in their cause.
Man, psychological warfare can (quite ironiclly) be a mindfuck to think about.
forgetmyname ago
So the fbi is doing something other than arresting hillary clinton? surprise, surprise.
gramman74 ago
You sir are a fucking genius! Albert Einstein aint got shit on you! I'm not being facetious, anything to take the headline off of Hillary! that is exactly what they are doing!
They start with right wing shit. That's where the Hillary campaign knows that she has the most enemies
Then it will perculate into the right wing trying to sabotage her... Then she will try to blame it on some of the socialist of the left wing party... because Bernie Sanders is a self admitted socialist. And who knows what's next??
un1ty ago
The end of America.
eyeswide0pen ago
Yeah we know that's probably never going to happen.