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VandalayIndustries ago

Masons.

Giving, most prior military, middle class whites.

Cant find a better group.

Helena73 ago

My dad says he’s joining the John Birch society. But he’s really old and I don’t want him to get molested or something. What’s the story, are you guys totally shadey? Do I need to perform and intervention here? What do John Birchees do? Do you have hats like the shriners or anything?

VandalayIndustries ago

Lmao.

We discuss politics, in person.

John Birch was the first American killed by communists. Hence the name.

Encourage your dad to join. Lots of good people.

Helena73 ago

Well I guess that sounds okay.

I find masons to be totally suspect. I think they undermine christianity with their “progressive” enlightened views on god. I think its a cult. No offense.

Im not a christian either. But I think the increased fraying of our cultural morals is down to its corruption and decline. I don’t even believe the pope is christian anymore.

Interestingly I understand that Joseph Smith borrowed a lot of masonic rites for mormonism, so the larping continues.

My morals need no anchor

I think we kid ourselves a bit when we say these things to ourselves.

VandalayIndustries ago

Will give a very good reply tomorrow.

It’s funny how one person’s (honest) want for knowledge can make me not be a jerk.

I know much about both groups. All of my dear friends and family members are Masons. I, as you know, an a member of the JBS.

Helena73 ago

As I said I mean no offense to your family members. I just think you really cannot have two masters and masons seem pretty much like a religion and one that discards tradition for progress and rational thought. I dont think “rational thought” leads to a strong culture with good morals. Its a slippery slope.

I guess Im kind of an atypical atheist.

VandalayIndustries ago

Meh.

Masons are more like the original ‘we don’t believe in Christianity, yet, we understand the need for absolute truth, and morals.

Its where good men went when reason battled beliefs.

Btw. Im drunk. Did that come out ok?

Helena73 ago

I know! You said so. You are doing fine.

I used to drink and post all the time, but I quit last year.

VandalayIndustries ago

Hah!

Quitter! I started drinking again after five years without at beginning of the hoax. Am surprised to still be alive tbh.

Helena73 ago

Don’t say that shit you will jinx me.

I am actually really pleased with myself for stopping. I really do feel better. It wasn’t even able to cheer me up at that point.

Coronavirus is real.