My dad says he’s joining the John Birch society. But he’s really old and I don’t want him to get molested or something. What’s the story, are you guys totally shadey? Do I need to perform and intervention here? What do John Birchees do? Do you have hats like the shriners or anything?
I find masons to be totally suspect. I think they undermine christianity with their “progressive” enlightened views on god. I think its a cult. No offense.
Im not a christian either. But I think the increased fraying of our cultural morals is down to its corruption and decline. I don’t even believe the pope is christian anymore.
Interestingly I understand that Joseph Smith borrowed a lot of masonic rites for mormonism, so the larping continues.
My morals need no anchor
I think we kid ourselves a bit when we say these things to ourselves.
As I said I mean no offense to your family members. I just think you really cannot have two masters and masons seem pretty much like a religion and one that discards tradition for progress and rational thought. I dont think “rational thought” leads to a strong culture with good morals. Its a slippery slope.
Masons are more like the original ‘we don’t believe in Christianity, yet, we understand the need for absolute truth, and morals.
The truth is, there really aren’t absolute truths when it comes to morals. That is why muslims think they are ultra moral but they fuck 9 year olds.
Our cultures form religions through which we decide which behaviors are evil and good. The process through which we determine what is evil or not evil is not a rational one. It is a thought process that has conferred survival— it’s useful evolutionarily speaking. But it isn’t rational.
If you try to use your “rational” mind to determine right from wrong you will inevitably find yourself on the slippery slope, and before you know it, you’re watching the homo parade march down your street every june.
Masons seem to have this flaw in their philosophy. Admittedly I don’t know exactly what they believe since they are a secret society, but I sense this is their drift.
I dont really think they are satanists or anything wacky like that.
Someone who actually wants a civilized discussion about this.
Am honestly shocked. And, quite drunk. So, while I chase down typos, I may seem incoherent.
Its the booze.
Am not going to put myself on any pedestal, instead, I will tell you Im a person with empathy. and, I wont tell you how giving I am.
Just trust me when I say, that I treat people who are in need as well or better than chipmunks or crows. I have a stash I carry with me at all times for every living creature.
Well I am personally shocked anytime I exchange comments someone who doesnt call me a jewish roastie. It hardly ever happens on this site.
Im sure you are a very empathetic person. I just feel that as atheists ( and I assume you are one ) we often say shit like “I don’t need the threat of hell to be a good person.” But we live in a christian culture, we have christian values. That is why we don’t accept polygamy and fucking 9 year olds. Its not because we are all very good people. We are still running on the fumes of christianity in the west but those fumes are getting pretty thin, so we see all this degeneracy especially from the most atheist precincts of the country. I think people need to be threatening with non-consuming hellfires every so often. Look at how arrogant and corrupt the upper class has become. You will argue they were always thus. But I think upper class corruption is super charged now that no people in positions of power fear god.
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VandalayIndustries ago
Masons.
Giving, most prior military, middle class whites.
Cant find a better group.
Helena73 ago
My dad says he’s joining the John Birch society. But he’s really old and I don’t want him to get molested or something. What’s the story, are you guys totally shadey? Do I need to perform and intervention here? What do John Birchees do? Do you have hats like the shriners or anything?
VandalayIndustries ago
Lmao.
We discuss politics, in person.
John Birch was the first American killed by communists. Hence the name.
Encourage your dad to join. Lots of good people.
Helena73 ago
Well I guess that sounds okay.
I find masons to be totally suspect. I think they undermine christianity with their “progressive” enlightened views on god. I think its a cult. No offense.
Im not a christian either. But I think the increased fraying of our cultural morals is down to its corruption and decline. I don’t even believe the pope is christian anymore.
Interestingly I understand that Joseph Smith borrowed a lot of masonic rites for mormonism, so the larping continues.
I think we kid ourselves a bit when we say these things to ourselves.
VandalayIndustries ago
Will give a very good reply tomorrow.
It’s funny how one person’s (honest) want for knowledge can make me not be a jerk.
I know much about both groups. All of my dear friends and family members are Masons. I, as you know, an a member of the JBS.
Helena73 ago
As I said I mean no offense to your family members. I just think you really cannot have two masters and masons seem pretty much like a religion and one that discards tradition for progress and rational thought. I dont think “rational thought” leads to a strong culture with good morals. Its a slippery slope.
I guess Im kind of an atypical atheist.
VandalayIndustries ago
Meh.
Masons are more like the original ‘we don’t believe in Christianity, yet, we understand the need for absolute truth, and morals.
Its where good men went when reason battled beliefs.
Btw. Im drunk. Did that come out ok?
Helena73 ago
The truth is, there really aren’t absolute truths when it comes to morals. That is why muslims think they are ultra moral but they fuck 9 year olds.
Our cultures form religions through which we decide which behaviors are evil and good. The process through which we determine what is evil or not evil is not a rational one. It is a thought process that has conferred survival— it’s useful evolutionarily speaking. But it isn’t rational.
If you try to use your “rational” mind to determine right from wrong you will inevitably find yourself on the slippery slope, and before you know it, you’re watching the homo parade march down your street every june.
Masons seem to have this flaw in their philosophy. Admittedly I don’t know exactly what they believe since they are a secret society, but I sense this is their drift.
I dont really think they are satanists or anything wacky like that.
Helena73 ago
I know! You said so. You are doing fine.
I used to drink and post all the time, but I quit last year.
VandalayIndustries ago
Hah!
Quitter! I started drinking again after five years without at beginning of the hoax. Am surprised to still be alive tbh.
Helena73 ago
Don’t say that shit you will jinx me.
I am actually really pleased with myself for stopping. I really do feel better. It wasn’t even able to cheer me up at that point.
Coronavirus is real.
VandalayIndustries ago
Holy shit.
Someone who actually wants a civilized discussion about this.
Am honestly shocked. And, quite drunk. So, while I chase down typos, I may seem incoherent.
Its the booze.
Am not going to put myself on any pedestal, instead, I will tell you Im a person with empathy. and, I wont tell you how giving I am.
Just trust me when I say, that I treat people who are in need as well or better than chipmunks or crows. I have a stash I carry with me at all times for every living creature.
Helena73 ago
Well I am personally shocked anytime I exchange comments someone who doesnt call me a jewish roastie. It hardly ever happens on this site.
Im sure you are a very empathetic person. I just feel that as atheists ( and I assume you are one ) we often say shit like “I don’t need the threat of hell to be a good person.” But we live in a christian culture, we have christian values. That is why we don’t accept polygamy and fucking 9 year olds. Its not because we are all very good people. We are still running on the fumes of christianity in the west but those fumes are getting pretty thin, so we see all this degeneracy especially from the most atheist precincts of the country. I think people need to be threatening with non-consuming hellfires every so often. Look at how arrogant and corrupt the upper class has become. You will argue they were always thus. But I think upper class corruption is super charged now that no people in positions of power fear god.