Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, doxycyline and many other drugs are
1.) proven to inhibit SARS CoV 2 in vitro in infected human cells, i.e. they shut down the infection because the virus can’t reproduce.
2.) proven to work in patients when given early (before patients progress to severe form)
3.)Can be taken prophylactically in low doses long term. HCQ and doxycyline are used long term for all kinds of conditions. They will prevent most cases and reduce the severity of infection. They will also lessen “asymptomatic” spread.
When people push you around on the mask shit or the social distancing push back with these facts. Demand antivirals prophylactically and otc for covid.
The people are too stupid to listen. They hear you bring up hcq and they immediately dismiss it because of some bullshit study they heard about on cnn 7 months ago that has since been retracted or proven bullshit. If you show people the stats and try to get them to understand that theres a 99.999% survival rate they claim they are trying to protect the old folks who are susceptible.
Well since I read all those bullshit studies and I know that they aren’t randomized and use propensity scoring to draw conclusions, (which isn’t that reliable) and also that they only studied HCQ in severe patients who are well past the point in their infection at which safe levels of HCQ are most likely to be effective,I am in a position to tear their studies apart.
The survival rate is not 99.999%. It is much lower. In my state, which is the hardest hit by covid basically in the world, 1 in 500 people have died of covid. In the state. Understand, that that is not out of all infected people, that is the proportion of all people in the state now dead. By the end of this winter that could be 1 in 200 or 300. That could be true of every state in a couple of years.
People in there 80s have maybe a 20% chance of dying from the infection at least and people in their 70s have about a 10% chance. That is bad.
That is why it is so important to get hydroxychloriquine to high risk patients as soon as they develop symptoms annd why high risk people should be getting prophylaxis.
Everyone here knows someone who died of covid. I know 5 people who died of it. A neighbor just died 2 weeks ago of it.
The case fatality rate of covid is not comparable to the fatality rate of flu because we don’t know about 99% of the flu cases that occur— no one gets tested for the flu. Half the country has been tested for covid and trace amounts of virus are counted as a case. Therefore comparing flu deaths/flu cases to covid deaths/covid cases is not useful.
Thats not the survival rate. That is the number of people who have died of it so far in my state. Perhaps 1/10 of the state population has had it so far? Maybe 1/20 have actually gotten sick?
This is the equivalent of randomly shooting 1 out of every 30 seniors once a year for several years.
Fuck old people, get rid of them
I hear this all the time from people on voat claiming to be non-degenerate, conservative and pro-white.
Evolved societies honor and care for their elderly. There are societies that do not- perhaps one of them would suit you better.
Yeah you did. Your response to old people are dying needlessly, prematurely by 10 or 15 years in many cases, is who cares? Old people die, what difference if they are cheated out of a decade of life? The implication was clear, fuck old people. If it was little zoomers like you dying, like during the spanish flu, it would be: why oh why doesn’t society shut down for me? Why are boomers so hardened to my suffering?
Hey Im 27, thats a big difference from 23. Im not at zoomer. I’m not, I’m not!
Pedantic distinction. You’re under 30. You’re a zoomer. If Im a boomer in my mid 40s, you may as well be a zoomer. Just own it and stop being a fucking bitch about it.
If you’re going to brag about your indifference to old people dying prematurely because who the fuck cares if they died before they needed to then just admit it and stop backpedalling. It’s really what you think, isn’t it?
I personally think you’re a degenerate for hating the elders of your own people, white seniors, but you’re the one that has to look at yourself in the mirror.
I also know with 100% confidence that you will change your mind on this sort of shit by age 40. Tick tick.
Quote the part where I said that you illiterate hag. When did I ever call you a boomer? Stop arguing with the voices in your head and try reading my posts.
Why should I suddenly be concerned about people at the end of their life expectancy facing their mortality like they always have?
Oops ! right there. ^^^ right fuckin’ there. Qed
Sounds like you need to make peace with the concept of death if you think it's something to be scared of at the age of 70.
Pretty philosophical for a person in their 20s! Haha! Im sure when the time comes you’ll nobly report to the soylent factory without a fight. How old are you exactly by the way?
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Helena73 ago
Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, doxycyline and many other drugs are
1.) proven to inhibit SARS CoV 2 in vitro in infected human cells, i.e. they shut down the infection because the virus can’t reproduce.
2.) proven to work in patients when given early (before patients progress to severe form)
3.)Can be taken prophylactically in low doses long term. HCQ and doxycyline are used long term for all kinds of conditions. They will prevent most cases and reduce the severity of infection. They will also lessen “asymptomatic” spread.
When people push you around on the mask shit or the social distancing push back with these facts. Demand antivirals prophylactically and otc for covid.
SpecialtyPizza ago
The people are too stupid to listen. They hear you bring up hcq and they immediately dismiss it because of some bullshit study they heard about on cnn 7 months ago that has since been retracted or proven bullshit. If you show people the stats and try to get them to understand that theres a 99.999% survival rate they claim they are trying to protect the old folks who are susceptible.
Helena73 ago
Well since I read all those bullshit studies and I know that they aren’t randomized and use propensity scoring to draw conclusions, (which isn’t that reliable) and also that they only studied HCQ in severe patients who are well past the point in their infection at which safe levels of HCQ are most likely to be effective,I am in a position to tear their studies apart.
The survival rate is not 99.999%. It is much lower. In my state, which is the hardest hit by covid basically in the world, 1 in 500 people have died of covid. In the state. Understand, that that is not out of all infected people, that is the proportion of all people in the state now dead. By the end of this winter that could be 1 in 200 or 300. That could be true of every state in a couple of years.
People in there 80s have maybe a 20% chance of dying from the infection at least and people in their 70s have about a 10% chance. That is bad.
That is why it is so important to get hydroxychloriquine to high risk patients as soon as they develop symptoms annd why high risk people should be getting prophylaxis.
Everyone here knows someone who died of covid. I know 5 people who died of it. A neighbor just died 2 weeks ago of it.
The case fatality rate of covid is not comparable to the fatality rate of flu because we don’t know about 99% of the flu cases that occur— no one gets tested for the flu. Half the country has been tested for covid and trace amounts of virus are counted as a case. Therefore comparing flu deaths/flu cases to covid deaths/covid cases is not useful.
NiggerJusticeWarrior ago
Lmao dude of course old people die. You will get old and die too. 1 in 500? Oh no not a 99.8% survival rate. IT'S THE PLAGUE
Helena73 ago
Thats not the survival rate. That is the number of people who have died of it so far in my state. Perhaps 1/10 of the state population has had it so far? Maybe 1/20 have actually gotten sick?
This is the equivalent of randomly shooting 1 out of every 30 seniors once a year for several years.
I hear this all the time from people on voat claiming to be non-degenerate, conservative and pro-white.
Evolved societies honor and care for their elderly. There are societies that do not- perhaps one of them would suit you better.
NiggerJusticeWarrior ago
I never said fuck old people or get rid of them. Learn to read you dumb cunt
Helena73 ago
Yeah you did. You said you didn’t care if they were killed by this virus because that’s what old people do— they die.
Listen zoomer, you won’t be allowed to vote, and this is why. You don’t understand anything about life and are still mentally a child.
NiggerJusticeWarrior ago
No I didn't you fucking retard. I stated a fact of life, that old people die. There are no zoomers on this site you dumb bitch
Helena73 ago
Yeah you did. Your response to old people are dying needlessly, prematurely by 10 or 15 years in many cases, is who cares? Old people die, what difference if they are cheated out of a decade of life? The implication was clear, fuck old people. If it was little zoomers like you dying, like during the spanish flu, it would be: why oh why doesn’t society shut down for me? Why are boomers so hardened to my suffering?
Pedantic distinction. You’re under 30. You’re a zoomer. If Im a boomer in my mid 40s, you may as well be a zoomer. Just own it and stop being a fucking bitch about it.
If you’re going to brag about your indifference to old people dying prematurely because who the fuck cares if they died before they needed to then just admit it and stop backpedalling. It’s really what you think, isn’t it?
I personally think you’re a degenerate for hating the elders of your own people, white seniors, but you’re the one that has to look at yourself in the mirror.
I also know with 100% confidence that you will change your mind on this sort of shit by age 40. Tick tick.
NiggerJusticeWarrior ago
Quote the part where I said that you illiterate hag. When did I ever call you a boomer? Stop arguing with the voices in your head and try reading my posts.
Helena73 ago
Oops ! right there. ^^^ right fuckin’ there. Qed
Pretty philosophical for a person in their 20s! Haha! Im sure when the time comes you’ll nobly report to the soylent factory without a fight. How old are you exactly by the way?