It hit me when Dr. Lester Grinspoon died recently.. I saw a photo of him it was instantly obvious. Then I asked myself well who else is a big name in cannabis legalization? Jack Herer! Holy fuck. Ok.. WHO ELSE? Fuckin (((ED ROSENTHAL)))!!! WTF!!! Now, I’m a pro-cannabis guy, I’ve worked in a dispensary, I’ve seen it help a lotta people, even shrinking cancerous tumors away for some folks, so I believe in the medicine. Where my brain goes when I see all these fuckin Jews being at the helm of the movement.. and Israel being a leader in medical research into cannabis.. makes me wonder if they were only stifling any actual progress in the US. Or maybe cannabis is the devil lettuce and I’m in denial.. any thoughts on this one, goats?
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knightwarrior41 ago
drugs just weaken the mental state of the user and allows him/her to go in to deeper depravity
zozimus ago
Pseudo-intellectual drivel that sounds profound but has zero bearing on reality.
knightwarrior41 ago
again,you are a drug user and a loser its not a problem of mine
crazy_eyes ago
you're on drugs, you fucking hypocrite. Had your coffee this morning addict? You having some alcohol during the holiday celebrations? Or maybe you take an aspirin for a headache. Or something to control your blood pressure. You're a drug addicted hypocrite
knightwarrior41 ago
nope i dont even drink coffee but comparing drugs to coffee is pretty stupid if you ask me.drugs can kill you and mess your mind and even your family but coffee doesnt
sorry but i dont drink alcohol either.
again,apples and oranges and all that
blood pressure medication doesnt fucking give you a high,retard.if you dont take it YOU DIE.some people are very very stupid here
btw,i have seen with my own very eyes how drugs destroy lives.when i was a teen i used to live in a building where i had a neighbor who were drug addicts.actually,they were a couple,these people because of the extended drug use had a pair of twins and one of the twins was born with cerebral palsy because his mother took drugs
okay,after the kids were born,the couple used to get gifts and toys from the extended family and friends and guess what they did with the gifts? they would resell them in order to finance their drug habit.fast forward 20 years
the invalid kid was treated soo poorly that as soon as he became an adult he preferred to be secluded in a hospice for disabled people while their parents moved from my state to another state and left him all by himself.hell even the twin brother ditched him for good
now who is the fucking idiot and retard that would still defend drug use after reading this story?i bet that you are a druggie yourself
personally you can choose the lifestyle that you want but please make SURE that YOU dont HURT others while in the process
zozimus ago
okay,after the kids were born,the couple used to get gifts and toys from the extended family and friends and guess what they did with the gifts? they would resell them in order to finance their drug habit.fast forward 20 years
You're BS appeal to emotion here fails due to you're own rational: apples and oranges. The argument you're dealing with is about cannabis, but you're conflating the effects of harder drugs with cannabis to make your point.
I would bet my whole stash of weed on the following being factual: the parents in your story were on hard drugs (crack, meth, heroine or fent or something). Which is like comparing water and alcohol in respect to weed and hard drugs.
While /u/crazy_eyes is ranting and edging on hyperbolic, they have a point. Where we draw the line on what counts as 'drugs' and not drugs is arbritrary and often based on bias, such as your anecdote influencing your perception of where the line is on what counts as 'drugs' as you seem to circle cannabis in with hard drugs.
This only proves your lack of understanding of the gradation of addiction and health-impact in relation to ingested substances and highlights your bias is informing your argument more than facts of the matter.
knightwarrior41 ago
meh i dont care i know what i have seen its true.go and insert a drug pipe in shape of a cactus in your ass for what all i care.you are a LOSER period
crazy_eyes ago
so you think caffeine is not a drug. marijuana cant kill you. is that a drug? I dont take blood pressure medicine and Im not dead, so. Drugs are only things that get you high now? Coffee gives a buzz. If coffee were to be made illegal there would be an immediate black market springing up to supply all of the addicts. Imagine all the infringements on our rights the legislatures could enact to combat the coffee cartels
knightwarrior41 ago
yes if it gives you a high its a drug that most of the times acts as gateway drug because there are people who will develop tolerance and will need a greater high.most drug users(not all though) have started with marijuana that is a fact
are you high now or are you stupid? if you dont suffer from high blood pressure then you dont need to take the medication but a person who has high blood pressure that person could eventually end up dead if that said person doesnt take it.personal story my granny died of high blood pressure and diabetes it destroyed her kidneys and heart so i fucking know what i am talking about....
of course not but drugs can impair you and kill you and like i said it destroy families,again dear drug user i have seen it with my own eyes
you cannot compare the "buzz" of a cup of coffee with the high of marijuana,crack cocaine,heroin and other drugs.there's no comparison.
you dont know what are you talking about. again, you can ruin your life if you like it but make sure that you dont ruin others and cause a burden on TAXPAYERS
crazy_eyes ago
how can you say there is no comparison? drinking coffee is basically the exact same thing as smoking crack
you must be on crack
knightwarrior41 ago
only a drug user would say that 🤔
crazy_eyes ago
have you ever drank coffee? have you ever smoked crack? same damn thing
knightwarrior41 ago
i have drank coffe in the past but never got a high
never!
NOT really with this i end this discussion you are free to destroy yourself if you want to bye
SeriousNiggerFaggot ago
I know potheads who are ambitious and intelligent and I know some who are always getting too stoned to function. Let's face it, the dumb will be dumb anyway. I want it legal because it's a fucking plant and I'm tired of loosing badass electricians on my job site because they fail a UA because of a plant they smoke on their own time while tweakers clean up for 2 days and go back to being a crackhead once hired.
dirt_reynolds ago
That's ignorant as fuck.
I use thc just about daily to treat autoimmune diseases and arthritis. It works as good or better than any pharmaceutical I've ever been on.
I'm also a senior manager in an industry leading software company. I've done more before the age of 40 than most will ever do. I make more money than just about every "pot is for degenerates" ignorant fuck on the planet.
So, spare us your dipshit pot is the devil nonsense. You clearly have zero idea what you're preaching.
I've researched medical marijuana for over a decade. I've discussed my treatment with all of my doctors. I've taken control of my own health and well being.
So, in closing, you have no idea what your spouting, you're ignorant and you're a loudmouth. Carry on with your case of Budweiser though.
mehwah ago
Medical use is way different then being a teenage dirt bag stoner.... just like using any other med it has its place but getting in the habit is usually a bad idea.
I've known people who used coke without any real bad effect too but I wouldn't recommend it as a life style for most people.
dirt_reynolds ago
Then making over reaching generalizations about depravity probably isn't the best course of action.
mehwah ago
Not really true.
When society normalizes something degenerate then you will always find people more likely to push the envelope and get fucked up
Back before everyone smoked weed normal people never touched hard drugs, only fucking hardcore loosers.. Back when fags had to keep it quiet you didn't have whole bunches of kids coming out as trannies or queers.
Back when porn was something rare you had to work to get hold of porn addicts were rare weirdo perverts rather then the plauge we have now.... and the porn itself?
Who the fuck ever stumbled across trannie porn in the 1990's or even 2000's?
What do you think kids watching that shit now will be like when their 30? 40? or 50?
Its a path- I dont really care what people do in private but what society 'says' is ok affects lives
Ocelot ago
Not what he said, just what you imagined he said.
What an extremely hysterical and feminine response to a very neutral comment. Nowhere did he say pot is the devil or has no medical uses, he stated that drugs weaken the mental state which leads to further depravity. You didn't address it at all, instead throwing a prissy little fit over an insult you imagined. Get a hold of yourself, white man.
mehwah ago
People like to justify their vices... its getting more common in our culture and TBH I dont care if people are stoners or spend hours jacking off to porn- its their own biz even if its bad.
zozimus ago
What defines a vice? A vice is defined as a morally wrong act/behavior. Morals are relative, and you haven't really stated how the act of taking drugs in itself has any moral assignment.
Jacking off to porn to an obsessive degree - again, while I'd pity anyone afflicted with that habit, I don't see how it's a moral issue either. Is it good or bad, morally speaking, to jack-off all day to porn? And to note: the health (physical/mental) implications are irrelevant here as they don't factor into the moral weight of the act, just the consequences of it.
mehwah ago
Morals are relative
THAT is the path to degeneracy.... not getting at you personally but the idea that morals are relative is toxic and will always lead to people giving in to their physical urges (after all...why wouldn't they if anything 'can' go???)
That ALWAYS leads to the pepple who control the supply of those pleasures (the corner liquor store, the drug dealer the local pimp or the jewish owned pron industry) having power over those who suffer from these vices...... BTW a 'vice' is a pleasure that is either harmful or immoral though TBH immoral pleasures always are harmful in the way they erode your willpower and sense of right and wrong. People without a sense of right and wrong ALWAYS become slaves to those who control the pleasure.
NOW- I'm not getting at you personally, God knows I'm not in any way a paragon or virtue... but lets look at (say...) porn, even if it didnt weaken your self control and potentially your ability to settle down its totally immoral to fund the jewish owned porn industry that scoops up weak minded damaged girls and chews them up and spits them out in a worse state then they started
dirt_reynolds ago
You conveniently left out the degenerate part.
Ocelot ago
I have no idea how that's "convenient" or what your point even is. The comment you replied to also didn't say "pot is for degenerates", so that only reinforces what I said.
Podd ago
Oy vey, really struck a nerve.
dirt_reynolds ago
Indeed. Ignorant people usually do.
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
It's an excuse for degenerate, lazy living.
drhitler ago
go back to your oat meal, and arn't you due for you a new bowl haircut?
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
I cut my hair with a straight razor and a plumb bob, you gigantic kike faggot
XSS1337 ago
5 day old account.
Go back to kikebook niggerfaggot
BaBs88 ago
Oh look. Its you again. Thinking account age gives you any sort of credibility. Fucking faggot. You're just like the redditards. "Oh you post in the donald!! Hurrdurr. Oh your account is 5 days old"
XSS1337 ago
Hi
Fuck off back to retardette
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
I would rather have a rabbi bite my dick, than go on FagBook, nigger
XSS1337 ago
Just keep trying to camouflage yourself.
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
Your insight is not as profound as your obesity, sadly
XSS1337 ago
You are a fucking kike and need your organs extracted while you are alive.
Jew children will die in horror as you watch filth.
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
I am not a filthy kike, but I do have a kike cock, which will be dilating your rectum very soon, nigger
XSS1337 ago
Fuck off Rabbi, we will pump your children full of estrogen and watch them slowly commit suicide over the following years so they can burn in Hell
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
and I will pump yours full of my Jew semen, nigger