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ShillKiller007 ago

A clone is just another person with the same DNA. Big woop.

dianemdeath ago

And no soul. Your soul is given to you by God. Not the local scientists. God bless

talmoridor-x ago

Soul exists everywhere where there's energy. Interactions between energy spawn sentience.

dianemdeath ago

If you say so.

ThirteenthZodiac ago

...go back to the q-tard verses, please. You're clearly too ill-equipped to have a rational conversation.

dianemdeath ago

You just don't like the answers.

ThirteenthZodiac ago

Your earlier statement indicates that you anthropomorphize your deity of choice. Given your capitalization, I'm going to assume some flavor of Christian, which would indicate that you have certain beliefs regarding the qualities of said deity. Those qualities are incompatible with anthropomorphization of said deity, making your beliefs inconsistent.

Shall I continue?

dianemdeath ago

Yes, I am Christan, Catholic to be precise and there's nothing you are going to say to sway my life long belief. So stating right off my beliefs' are inconsistent in some warped attempt to make me feel inferior will not work.

ThirteenthZodiac ago

Yes, I am Christan, Catholic to be precise and there's nothing you are going to say to sway my life long belief.

I didn't say anything about persuading you to believe otherwise.

I have no qualms with your religious beliefs, and would actually prefer living in a significantly more Christian society than what we have today, specifically because Christianity was - for better or worse - the underpinning of Western civilization. As such I believe it plays a fundamental role in maintaining the social fabric that makes Western civilization possible to begin with, and - given that - I have no intention of attempting to sway you from that.

Instead, consider this discussion a way of clarifying your understanding of your religion and what it is, precisely, that you believe.

So stating right off my beliefs' are inconsistent in some warped attempt to make me feel inferior will not work.

I'm not quite sure where to begin unpacking this. So let's try a different tack, shall we?

You made the assertion that "your soul is given to you by god." Would you expound on this, please? I have a few specific questions: (1) when is it, exactly, in your opinion, that a soul is invested in a creature?; and (2) ignoring the metaphysics of your religion for a moment (so let's avoid discussion of an afterlife and "sin"), what are the benefits of having a soul?

dianemdeath ago

Fair enough. The soul is. It exists. Created by God and indestructible. The soul is usually transferred to the being at conception. However, there are exceptions in timing.

ThirteenthZodiac ago

Fun thing about conception, is that lots of animals do that.

Bears, for instance. Bears mate in pretty much the same way people do.

Do bears have souls? Why or why not?

dianemdeath ago

This will surprise you, and not part of my religious upbringing, but yes. Animals have souls.

Wahaha ago

If animals have souls, why can't they get into heaven?

dianemdeath ago

Animals do go to heaven.

I'm not sure where we in general, were taught to believe that animals can't/don't go to heaven but they do.

SquarebobSpongebutt ago

So, are test tube babies soul-less? What about other types of artificial insemination? You assume science and religion are mutually exclusive and that God would not grant a soul to someone not born from an act of sexual intercourse. Why would God grant a soul to a child born of a gang rape but not of a clone?

dianemdeath ago

I have never heard scientists giving a damn about the soul. Maybe God draws the line at humans thinking their God and making a complete biological human.

ShillKiller007 ago

Identical twins have the same DNA, do they not have souls?

dianemdeath ago

Yes, identical twins, triplets, quads, etc have souls.

lord_nougat ago

OMG! Gingers are CLONES!

dianemdeath ago

What are you talking about?

lord_nougat ago

Clones. And gingers. And their unholy alliance.