It was pretty easy to jump on the band wagon and become a holocaust denier, because it seemed so obvious. Not to mention them darned Jews, right? But something never sat right with me, something along the lines of if it was so obvious why are deniers a minority.
So I did a bunch of research independent of any forums, because let's face it any one on a forum already has an axe to grind.
In the end I really did have to agree that:
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Deniers cherrypick. I was overwhelmed by the sheer volume of war related documentation there is available and deniers only ever seem to use the few bits that suit their purpose, and then they beat that like a kettle drum.
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Overwhelming evidence about the gas chambers NOT being gas chambers turned out to not be so overwhelming afterall. Again deniers seem to only use evidence or methodology that suited their objectives.
So either the Jewish conspiracy is so huge and well funded that they are able to perpetuate a hoax of a scale grander than I can even imagine. Or there actually is a lot of truth there. I do remain open to any new information on or approaches to the subject however.
Anyhow, am I the only one?
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Syndicalism ago
I feel like the evidence that the holocaust is at least misrepresented is pretty compelling. Its hard to get straight facts from that era though. The gas chambers were likely delousing chambers. Most deaths in the camps can be attributed to famine and disease from intense allied bombing. Only the camps that were not allowed to be inspected by post-war counsel were deemed death camps. Archeological evidence the camps were altered to appear like death camps after the war. These are all things I've at least read about, but who knows?
The most damning evidence to me is modern day consequences for challenging the narrative. If the ideas countering the holocaust narrative are so benign and easily defeated then why must we persecute 90 year-olds who espouse such ideas? Why not let them compete in public forum and be trounced with logic? This is my crux with the holocaust narrative.
GoddammitMrNoodle ago
Yeah I'm pretty much at the same place. Will we ever know the truth? Probably not, for one it's so incredibly complex. And as you point out there are many interests and agendas at play, and since all of our information is 2nd hand, or 3rd 4th..., it's no longer possible to have anything but opinions.
bb22 ago
There are too many coincidences to ignore, starting with the “6 million” mantra going all the way back to the 1800s.
They had an exhibit of what the Nazis allegedly did soon after the war, and included shrunken heads from Africa that were later admitted not to have been made by the Germans. Why lie? Why put that shrunken head there and misrepresent if actually atrocities took place?
Fake documents from that era are easy to forge, but the swimming pool and movie theater at Auschwitz are hard to write out of history when they are still standing to this day.
GoddammitMrNoodle ago
Auschwitz-Berkenau was a work camp and a death camp, the only one actually (the rest were one or the other -- or so I've read). So from a simplistic understanding the presence of a swimming pool and theatre could make sense. Not a slam dunk but you do have to wonder. Or not, it's your call.
I have no comment on you other points, no idea what they mean.
Tallest_Skil ago
Nothing you’ve said is true. Just leave and don’t come back.