Nope I selected to look at new post and I'm well versed on the nature of our flat earth. I cannot view the vid at work and Im eagar to get ahead of what ever errors are at play because the earth is flat its an observable and scientific fact.
The summary is, that if the earth were flat the parts that are lit during the day would be different than if it were spherical. This is shown that based on what's lit during the day in order for the earth to be flat the points of origin of the light that lights the lit parts of the earth would have to be many many directional lights in different positions, in order to cover the area that is lit. Not only that these directional lights would have to be constantly moving and Turning on and off. However if you make the earth spherical, then it all points to a single light source and all from a single position. The sun. But really dude all you have to do is realize that the sun rises from the landscape and sets into it. And that the paths we fly in a plane also prove the earth isn't flat. If we were to take these paths in planes on a flat Earth model the plane would be constantly banking and therefore constantly tilted to the side. Also for whatever reason every single pilot would be taking not the straight and quickest path to our destination but for some reason going in a out of the way curve to get there. Not to mention many flights would run out of gas. Why not use actual logic to decide things?
I think you've not been introduced to the concept of the vanishing point and the effects of light through the atmos etc or a very close and much smaller sun before. This argument seems to be oblivious to that unless they attempt to counter those points at all I'm not aware.
Dude, okay cool name... But anyways.. uh first of all you're trying to bend reality to make something fit that just doesn't when there's a very easy logical explanation that everyone else accepts and you don't. But really at this point you could either watch the source material or just not make comments...
Watching the winter solstice and equinox part. I gave serious examination in spite of the presenter providing no sources for his information in the first part. However now they are clearly using math to create these animations and not actual data points. If they are willing to pass that on in the later half it starts to draw the first half even into greater doubt. Ultimately I have to utterly disregard this as they have supplied no evidence at all. This proof is the analogous adaptation of ESPN sports analysis to the flat-globe earth debate. This is not evidence. Please start by proving gravity. Gravity doesn't exist.
While gravity is still a "theory" as are all science, it has pretty compelling evidence. How are you able to deny it? Are the other planets flat as well? Are they fake? If they're real then how do they stay in orbit or even what do they orbit if the sun isn't as explained? If gravity is fake then why don't we continue to float when we jump?
We are not a planet. We are a plane. Above us is a firmament with little lights embedded. Some fixed, some move. The movers are the planets, comets, and shooting stars. That however is to advanced for you to accept. You don't put the roof on before you lay the foundation. lets stick with the foundation. You say science cannot disprove gravity then. Well what if I told you none of your observations of anything require gravity to explain them. They are all explained with the law of relative density, magnetism, and through the addition of energy creating a thrust vector it's natural course due to the law of relative density.
The law of relative density is exactly what gravity is based on. So are you under the belief that there is a creator? A being created this world? Or it happened scientifically?
A being created this world? Or it happened scientifically?
They are not mutually exclusive.
So are you under the belief that there is a creator?
That is irrelevant to the nature of the earth. If one form or another compels you to logically conclude one subsequent belief or the other is not the matter at hand when proving out the nature of the earth.
The law of relative density is exactly what gravity is based on.
Gravity is supposed to exist in the vacuum of space which keeps that proposed cosmology in order. In the conception of relative density when you reach the height where the density is 0 then thrust terminates and velocity would drop. You have nothing to push off of.
Amateur rocket... eventually reaches point it has nothing to push off of... and oh look at the other camera on the last third of the video. Fish eye lens shows earth going convex or concave but when in the center it's flat. NASA does not permit non fish eye cameras on their flights either, but you can find other armature drones and weather balloons and rockets with human aperture cameras showing flatness. The big takeaway from the last third is the horizon is always at eye level.... the vanishing point extends further out as height increases. The vanishing point is a fixed angle where the human eye loses sensitivity as things become so small and compacted. As height increases from the plane greater distances can be seen.
1:55 There is no midnight sun in Antarctica, it is notably much colder in Antarctica and intensely more ice. The intense cold would make sense if there was never midnight sun there at any time all year. Otherwise the intense cold and extreme quantity of ice compared to the Arctic circle would be an unexplained phenomenon. Given this the rational hypothesis is that without clear well vetted and repeatable testing proving a midnight sun in Antarctica the rational conclusion is there is non. The notable lack of evidence and inability for anyone to really travel and stay in Antarctica during that time of year without having an association with government backed scientific institutions and military keeps the choke hold on the information with them. Applying a scientific mind to it repeatedly government and military have proven they cannot be trusted when they have this kind of power over information.
Midnight sun is illogical, and only verified by an untrustworthy source.
again to elaborate on the other point I made in the other post and my general observations so far into the video it hangs upon the Gleason Map being accurate. Stating that the earth is not a globe and is flat doesn't mean the Gleason map is accurate automatically. Those who observe a flat earth and speak publicly about it do not also have the resources to preform geological surveys outside of trusting intel from government and military which I previously had demonstrated is untrustworthy.
That said the vectors on a more accurate map could perhaps converge perfectly well which also would guard against the potential refute you may find of coordinated efforts at measuring the suns angle at the exact time across the world.
at 1:06 an insufficiently substantiated argument is made and due to the sloppy evidence provided an incorrect conclusion is made.
The sun as it travels over the course of the year moves closer and closer to the north pole and then closer and closer the the magnetic south pole of the ring magnet field. It will be found at different points continually. The only way to accurately determine the convergence of the vectors or divergence is to actually take instrument readings from the different points at the exact same time. This would have to be an intentional measurement for the purpose of determining the distance of the sun from earth. However the loose correlation without such controls demonstrated to be in place gives me an even stronger hypothesis to test as more exact control will provide more exact results and given what we see is what we would expect if we tested with the inverse of control intentionally if the results were that the earth is flat and the sun is close upon intentional exact control.
But dude wake up and look outside. If the Earth was flat the sun would not rise, it would come around... Why the fuck does it come out of the horizon? Why does it sink into the horizon at night? Sunset and sunrise prove the Earth isn't flat..
Example of vanishing point using the setting sun. They zoom in with a bad ass camera that anyone can buy that has super high zoom capability and the sun rises back up again, then when they zoom back out it sets again.... Vanishing point. you probably learned about it in art class.
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RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
bold claims... The earth has been flat for a long long time. Can you summarize the findings?
qwop ago
Are you a bot? You responded almost instantly with a cookie cutter comment. It's a 4 minute video. That's the summary.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Nope I selected to look at new post and I'm well versed on the nature of our flat earth. I cannot view the vid at work and Im eagar to get ahead of what ever errors are at play because the earth is flat its an observable and scientific fact.
Fateswebb ago
The summary is, that if the earth were flat the parts that are lit during the day would be different than if it were spherical. This is shown that based on what's lit during the day in order for the earth to be flat the points of origin of the light that lights the lit parts of the earth would have to be many many directional lights in different positions, in order to cover the area that is lit. Not only that these directional lights would have to be constantly moving and Turning on and off. However if you make the earth spherical, then it all points to a single light source and all from a single position. The sun. But really dude all you have to do is realize that the sun rises from the landscape and sets into it. And that the paths we fly in a plane also prove the earth isn't flat. If we were to take these paths in planes on a flat Earth model the plane would be constantly banking and therefore constantly tilted to the side. Also for whatever reason every single pilot would be taking not the straight and quickest path to our destination but for some reason going in a out of the way curve to get there. Not to mention many flights would run out of gas. Why not use actual logic to decide things?
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
I think you've not been introduced to the concept of the vanishing point and the effects of light through the atmos etc or a very close and much smaller sun before. This argument seems to be oblivious to that unless they attempt to counter those points at all I'm not aware.
Fateswebb ago
Dude, okay cool name... But anyways.. uh first of all you're trying to bend reality to make something fit that just doesn't when there's a very easy logical explanation that everyone else accepts and you don't. But really at this point you could either watch the source material or just not make comments...
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Watching the winter solstice and equinox part. I gave serious examination in spite of the presenter providing no sources for his information in the first part. However now they are clearly using math to create these animations and not actual data points. If they are willing to pass that on in the later half it starts to draw the first half even into greater doubt. Ultimately I have to utterly disregard this as they have supplied no evidence at all. This proof is the analogous adaptation of ESPN sports analysis to the flat-globe earth debate. This is not evidence. Please start by proving gravity. Gravity doesn't exist.
Fateswebb ago
While gravity is still a "theory" as are all science, it has pretty compelling evidence. How are you able to deny it? Are the other planets flat as well? Are they fake? If they're real then how do they stay in orbit or even what do they orbit if the sun isn't as explained? If gravity is fake then why don't we continue to float when we jump?
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
We are not a planet. We are a plane. Above us is a firmament with little lights embedded. Some fixed, some move. The movers are the planets, comets, and shooting stars. That however is to advanced for you to accept. You don't put the roof on before you lay the foundation. lets stick with the foundation. You say science cannot disprove gravity then. Well what if I told you none of your observations of anything require gravity to explain them. They are all explained with the law of relative density, magnetism, and through the addition of energy creating a thrust vector it's natural course due to the law of relative density.
Fateswebb ago
The law of relative density is exactly what gravity is based on. So are you under the belief that there is a creator? A being created this world? Or it happened scientifically?
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
They are not mutually exclusive.
That is irrelevant to the nature of the earth. If one form or another compels you to logically conclude one subsequent belief or the other is not the matter at hand when proving out the nature of the earth.
Gravity is supposed to exist in the vacuum of space which keeps that proposed cosmology in order. In the conception of relative density when you reach the height where the density is 0 then thrust terminates and velocity would drop. You have nothing to push off of.
https://youtu.be/KK6NdOTFXdw
Amateur rocket... eventually reaches point it has nothing to push off of... and oh look at the other camera on the last third of the video. Fish eye lens shows earth going convex or concave but when in the center it's flat. NASA does not permit non fish eye cameras on their flights either, but you can find other armature drones and weather balloons and rockets with human aperture cameras showing flatness. The big takeaway from the last third is the horizon is always at eye level.... the vanishing point extends further out as height increases. The vanishing point is a fixed angle where the human eye loses sensitivity as things become so small and compacted. As height increases from the plane greater distances can be seen.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
Would you consider that gravity needs planets and planets need gravity to prove each other and the only proof of planets is from rendered images from NASA: http://flatearthwiki.com/images/8/89/Blue_marble_nasa_inconsistency.jpg
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
1:55 There is no midnight sun in Antarctica, it is notably much colder in Antarctica and intensely more ice. The intense cold would make sense if there was never midnight sun there at any time all year. Otherwise the intense cold and extreme quantity of ice compared to the Arctic circle would be an unexplained phenomenon. Given this the rational hypothesis is that without clear well vetted and repeatable testing proving a midnight sun in Antarctica the rational conclusion is there is non. The notable lack of evidence and inability for anyone to really travel and stay in Antarctica during that time of year without having an association with government backed scientific institutions and military keeps the choke hold on the information with them. Applying a scientific mind to it repeatedly government and military have proven they cannot be trusted when they have this kind of power over information.
Midnight sun is illogical, and only verified by an untrustworthy source.
again to elaborate on the other point I made in the other post and my general observations so far into the video it hangs upon the Gleason Map being accurate. Stating that the earth is not a globe and is flat doesn't mean the Gleason map is accurate automatically. Those who observe a flat earth and speak publicly about it do not also have the resources to preform geological surveys outside of trusting intel from government and military which I previously had demonstrated is untrustworthy.
That said the vectors on a more accurate map could perhaps converge perfectly well which also would guard against the potential refute you may find of coordinated efforts at measuring the suns angle at the exact time across the world.
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
at 1:06 an insufficiently substantiated argument is made and due to the sloppy evidence provided an incorrect conclusion is made.
The sun as it travels over the course of the year moves closer and closer to the north pole and then closer and closer the the magnetic south pole of the ring magnet field. It will be found at different points continually. The only way to accurately determine the convergence of the vectors or divergence is to actually take instrument readings from the different points at the exact same time. This would have to be an intentional measurement for the purpose of determining the distance of the sun from earth. However the loose correlation without such controls demonstrated to be in place gives me an even stronger hypothesis to test as more exact control will provide more exact results and given what we see is what we would expect if we tested with the inverse of control intentionally if the results were that the earth is flat and the sun is close upon intentional exact control.
Fateswebb ago
But dude wake up and look outside. If the Earth was flat the sun would not rise, it would come around... Why the fuck does it come out of the horizon? Why does it sink into the horizon at night? Sunset and sunrise prove the Earth isn't flat..
RickFlairWOOOOOO ago
https://youtu.be/Mgkz2I-oqYI
Example of vanishing point using the setting sun. They zoom in with a bad ass camera that anyone can buy that has super high zoom capability and the sun rises back up again, then when they zoom back out it sets again.... Vanishing point. you probably learned about it in art class.