Also note, why is the paint not peeling? Or the seats and dash melting? Especially when they claim the exteroir of the "ISS" reaches up to 121 celcius.
The orbit shown in this is way too high up. Much past the gravitational well. At a correct geo synchronistic orbit, the earth would be 2-3 times as big as this.
You cannot judge size in any way from an image without knowing the parameters of the camera sensor and lens. A wide angle lens makes everything look smaller, and a narrow angle lens makes everything look larger.
Without knowing these parameters, it's impossible to judge the size of objects in an image. So to say earth needs to be 2-3 times as big, you could as well say the focal length of the lens needs to be 2-3 times larger.
How would you know which parameters are responsible for the apparent sizes in the image? Answer is: you don't unless you dig up the technical specifications of the camera setup Tesla is using in this image.
I really would like to see the rest of the video without the earth in the picture. The view into space must look spectacular with all the stars and stuff.
How about the argument of how photography works? When there's one source of light that's brighter than others the other sources will appear dimmer. If the other sources are dim enough they won't be seen at all. Reduce or remove the brighter source and the dim ones become brighter and more visible. This is exactly how it's possible for us to view very distant stars, by blotting out other closer and brighter stars.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Light a butane torch in the mid day sunlight. Is it bright? No, you can barely see it if at all, even when you have your back to the sun the ambient light (reflected light) is still too bright. Now walk indoors with the torch still burning. I bet you can see it very clearly then.
Why I'm in space right now. Riding on spaceship earth. The sun is shining and there's not a star in sight. They're all too dim by comparison. It's not until I'm in the total eclipse of the sun's light that I can make out those distantly dim pinpoints of star light.
The camera being used is seeing a ton of bright earth in its shot so it changes its settings according to earth's brightness. If the earth is brighter than the stars around it, you won't see the stars.
Well the sun is behind the camera and the earth is reflecting a massive amount of the sunlight back at the camera. Anything dimmer than that won't be captured.
I've used a level before. I understand the concept and I even understand you perception. The problem is your imagination isn't grand enough to comprehend scales large enough to literally see the bigger picture. edit: That's not a personal charge. It's simply how humans evolved.
If the change is gradual enough it is unnoticeable and often immeasurable. So prove to me in a more convincing way that the earth is flat, please. I'm open to reasonable discussion. I'm also open minded enough to be the owner of /v/plasmacosmology
good enough proof for me, your concept about scale and perception is BS,
there is a specific formula for calculating the curve and there is none there should be
There is though. Are you arguing that the horizon is flat therefore the water is flat? Or are you talking about smaller scale bodies of water measuring flat from a fixed point of reference?
You haven't shown me one bit of your proofs yet. You can't be that confident in them then. You won't even take time to explain them. Probably because you either don't understand them or are unsure of their validity.
It's not flat though. That's just your claim. Water rests perpendicular to the radial line from the center of gravity.
Take a droplet of water, put it on a slide. Is it flat? No. It's not a sphere either, and that's due to Earth's gravity compressing it against the slide's surface. But relieve that pressure by turning the slide over and you'll see the water regain its spherical shape.
I ask for proof and all you can give me is your small minded perception with no explanation, evidence, or any sense of proof whatsoever. Because you have none and you know it.
If it's been proven so many times do it now. Show me the experiment that proves it. Explain the proofing process that was used. Prove it. You won't because you can't.
watch a few flat earth videos, you will surely find it if you're interested,
i don't have to show you anything and i won't cause you're just a yuge dick
I've watched a few of them. That's how I know you simply have a fucked up perception of how reality works. However I can't explain what it is that you're misunderstanding if you can't describe your perception to me. That's also how I know that even if you were smart enough to explain the concepts to me I could easily prove you wrong. But since you don't even understand your own arguments you definitely won't understand the rebuttals.
Then show me the truth. I've given you ample opportunity yet you still haven't taken advantage of that opportunity. I'm still asking for your proof. Do it then, produce that truth nigger. You won't though for the same reason you still haven't. Because you can't.
To a practically unnoticeable degree, yes. Only precise measurements reveal the difference in north south diameter and east west diameter. It's not such a drastic difference that you'd spot it visually.
jesus_is_lord ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAGcXvGrneo
jesus_is_lord ago
https://kek.gg/i/3Q3gmP.jpg
csp ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=235&v=K18-yMDCWb4
Also note, why is the paint not peeling? Or the seats and dash melting? Especially when they claim the exteroir of the "ISS" reaches up to 121 celcius.
Complete load of FUD.
Unreasonable ago
The orbit shown in this is way too high up. Much past the gravitational well. At a correct geo synchronistic orbit, the earth would be 2-3 times as big as this.
qwop ago
You cannot judge size in any way from an image without knowing the parameters of the camera sensor and lens. A wide angle lens makes everything look smaller, and a narrow angle lens makes everything look larger.
Without knowing these parameters, it's impossible to judge the size of objects in an image. So to say earth needs to be 2-3 times as big, you could as well say the focal length of the lens needs to be 2-3 times larger.
How would you know which parameters are responsible for the apparent sizes in the image? Answer is: you don't unless you dig up the technical specifications of the camera setup Tesla is using in this image.
Frank_Barrow ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erIG1FJgFDE It wouldn't be a good fake without some satanic symbology
Zinnsee ago
I really would like to see the rest of the video without the earth in the picture. The view into space must look spectacular with all the stars and stuff.
Zongongo ago
Stars are too complicated to fake. That's why the Apollo missions show no stars. We should see stars buy we won't.
YugeDick ago
See a lot of stars while standing in the sunlight do ya?
heuristic ago
oh god. please don't make the sunshine argument. the sun is always shining in space.
YugeDick ago
How about the argument of how photography works? When there's one source of light that's brighter than others the other sources will appear dimmer. If the other sources are dim enough they won't be seen at all. Reduce or remove the brighter source and the dim ones become brighter and more visible. This is exactly how it's possible for us to view very distant stars, by blotting out other closer and brighter stars.
Here's an experiment you can try at home. Light a butane torch in the mid day sunlight. Is it bright? No, you can barely see it if at all, even when you have your back to the sun the ambient light (reflected light) is still too bright. Now walk indoors with the torch still burning. I bet you can see it very clearly then.
heuristic ago
haha good try mate. we are talking about space. your experiment doesn't emulate space conditions so just stop embarrassing yourself.
YugeDick ago
It emulates contrast and brightness. What difference does space have to do with light?
Zinnsee ago
There has to be at least one...
jesus_is_lord ago
yes there should be many stars, period
YugeDick ago
Your experience is unique as far as I'm aware. I personally don't see any stars when I stand in the sunlight. How do you accomplish this?
heuristic ago
when have you ever stood in space?
YugeDick ago
Why I'm in space right now. Riding on spaceship earth. The sun is shining and there's not a star in sight. They're all too dim by comparison. It's not until I'm in the total eclipse of the sun's light that I can make out those distantly dim pinpoints of star light.
heuristic ago
didn't know I was talking to a middle school student. you're just too fucking dumb to understand
YugeDick ago
You don't understand and that makes me the dumb one. Your logic is astounding. Astounding that you've survived this long.
jesus_is_lord ago
where do you see light there which would prevent stars from being seen? your theory sounds like BS to me
Boris ago
The camera being used is seeing a ton of bright earth in its shot so it changes its settings according to earth's brightness. If the earth is brighter than the stars around it, you won't see the stars.
YugeDick ago
Well the sun is behind the camera and the earth is reflecting a massive amount of the sunlight back at the camera. Anything dimmer than that won't be captured.
heuristic ago
Bullshit. there are all sorts of lenses and exposures that can be used to battle this. there is ZERO evidence of even one star.
YugeDick ago
And so what is your proposition here? That space is a lie and the Earth is flat?
jesus_is_lord ago
no curve means flat
YugeDick ago
Good thing there's a curve then.
jesus_is_lord ago
prove it
YugeDick ago
it's right there in the picture.
now prove it's flat.
jesus_is_lord ago
it's flat because water is flat, no curve = flat, pretty simple?
YugeDick ago
Prove it.
Looks to me that the water is perpendicular to the radial line from the center of gravity.
jesus_is_lord ago
no it isn't because there is no curve
YugeDick ago
prove it.
jesus_is_lord ago
youtube it, water is flat
YugeDick ago
I've used a level before. I understand the concept and I even understand you perception. The problem is your imagination isn't grand enough to comprehend scales large enough to literally see the bigger picture. edit: That's not a personal charge. It's simply how humans evolved.
If the change is gradual enough it is unnoticeable and often immeasurable. So prove to me in a more convincing way that the earth is flat, please. I'm open to reasonable discussion. I'm also open minded enough to be the owner of /v/plasmacosmology
jesus_is_lord ago
good enough proof for me, your concept about scale and perception is BS, there is a specific formula for calculating the curve and there is none there should be
YugeDick ago
There is though. Are you arguing that the horizon is flat therefore the water is flat? Or are you talking about smaller scale bodies of water measuring flat from a fixed point of reference?
jesus_is_lord ago
the water tests show there isn't any curvature, so... proof enough for me, if you need more i'm sure you'll find it, there is plenty out there
YugeDick ago
What test? How does this test work? Explain it to me. Or at least link it.
jesus_is_lord ago
https://www.amazon.com/200-Proofs-Earth-Spinning-Ball/dp/B072PPB3HB
YugeDick ago
Lol no. Try again.
jesus_is_lord ago
i don't care what you believe, i have my proofs figured out
YugeDick ago
You haven't shown me one bit of your proofs yet. You can't be that confident in them then. You won't even take time to explain them. Probably because you either don't understand them or are unsure of their validity.
jesus_is_lord ago
water is flat, there is your proof, lol, besides that, go prove to yourself whatever you want to believe
YugeDick ago
It's not flat though. That's just your claim. Water rests perpendicular to the radial line from the center of gravity.
Take a droplet of water, put it on a slide. Is it flat? No. It's not a sphere either, and that's due to Earth's gravity compressing it against the slide's surface. But relieve that pressure by turning the slide over and you'll see the water regain its spherical shape.
I ask for proof and all you can give me is your small minded perception with no explanation, evidence, or any sense of proof whatsoever. Because you have none and you know it.
jesus_is_lord ago
yes it's flat, it's been proven over and over to be flat, if you can't accept that then you're either clueless or a shill
YugeDick ago
If it's been proven so many times do it now. Show me the experiment that proves it. Explain the proofing process that was used. Prove it. You won't because you can't.
jesus_is_lord ago
watch a few flat earth videos, you will surely find it if you're interested, i don't have to show you anything and i won't cause you're just a yuge dick
YugeDick ago
I've watched a few of them. That's how I know you simply have a fucked up perception of how reality works. However I can't explain what it is that you're misunderstanding if you can't describe your perception to me. That's also how I know that even if you were smart enough to explain the concepts to me I could easily prove you wrong. But since you don't even understand your own arguments you definitely won't understand the rebuttals.
jesus_is_lord ago
keep your perception and stay away, i don't care about yours
YugeDick ago
Cause you know our wrong and are too afraid of questioning your faith.
jesus_is_lord ago
cause i know the truth, and you're just a propaganda troll
YugeDick ago
Then show me the truth. I've given you ample opportunity yet you still haven't taken advantage of that opportunity. I'm still asking for your proof. Do it then, produce that truth nigger. You won't though for the same reason you still haven't. Because you can't.
jesus_is_lord ago
plenty of truth out there, just go and get it hero, why do you want me to spoon-feed you?
YugeDick ago
Fact still remains that I invited you to prove your claim and all you gave me was "water is flat." You simply can't prove your claim.
jesus_is_lord ago
i don't need to prove it, it's already been proven many times, all you have to do is look it up
YugeDick ago
Then lin to your most convincing video or article then and not a $40 book you want to sell. Or explain it in your own words.
I asked you to do this before already. You won't do it though because you don't have anything that's convincing and you know it.
jesus_is_lord ago
yeah, whatever you say
jesus_is_lord ago
doesn't seem realistic to me, they should get better cameras or better photographers
salvia_d ago
More fucking space debris so that an Oligarch can stroke his ego and pump up the price of his stock price on Wall street.
heuristic ago
i don't think this car ever made it to orbit. I'm not doubting the rocket launch, but this is phishy as fuck
YugeDick ago
Cause orbit isn't real and if the rocket went that high it would've crashed into the firmament. Right?
Gimmemymoney ago
There's no way that's real.
YugeDick ago
To a practically unnoticeable degree, yes. Only precise measurements reveal the difference in north south diameter and east west diameter. It's not such a drastic difference that you'd spot it visually.
Gimmemymoney ago
The whole thing looks fake to me.
jesus_is_lord ago
looks like pure cgi to me
Gimmemymoney ago
I know it does to me too.
Zongongo ago
According to Neil Degrasse Tyson, pear shape. Of course, All NASA phony photos show a perfect sphere.
derram ago
non-imgur link: https://files.catbox.moe/4yeezh.gif
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