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Jimmycog ago

I saw the Picts of that room there were not 1000 casings in that area.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

This is very concerning. His leg was also under the rifle. Chair was still in same spot in front of window in 32135. And there is some strange bag of the left hand of the body found in 32135.

Jimmycog ago

And all of the camera videos that didn't get reported.

HarveyKlinger ago

That was the first thing I noticed. He supposedly stood so far back there wasn't one hint of muzzle flash outside of the room. Where the fuck was all the brass? There should have been piles of it. And even a gun owner with little experience knows you don't need more than a couple rifles to what he supposedly did.

More than 200 of those rounds were in the hallway which leaves ~900 at the ground (and fuel tanks). That's better than 50% accuracy at moving targets in a sparsely populated huge space using an uncontrollable bump stock at over 1200 yards WITH WIND. No fucking way.

pauly_pants ago

1200 feet. The ' is used to denote feet in the imperial measurement system.

HarveyKlinger ago

Which is why I used it. And had it been inches I'd have written 1200".

pauly_pants ago

Ahhh, clearly a typo then. Your second to the last sentence says "...uncontrollable bump stock at over 1200 yards WITH WIND". Clearly the story is fucked though.

HarveyKlinger ago

Yep. I fucked up. Meant to type 1200 feet. But thanks for keeping me honest. :)

0fsgivin ago

It wasn't sparsely populated...People were clustered together in tight groups. Some bullets probably hit multiple people. You are aware bullets continue THROUGH the target correct?

I'm not saying theres not some fuckery with the Vegas investigation just pointing out it's not that suprising if in that situation "Every other bullet hit someone" Even with how shittily accurate a bump stock is at long range. Those groups of people were 25x25 yards wide Well into the shooting.

At the start of the shooting you had people shoulder to shoulder over hundreds or square yards. Many of those first bullets hit two people... It's really not that hard to understand if you know anything about firearms.

HarveyKlinger ago

There's quite a bit of footage showing that it wasn't that packed when the shooting started. I'll see if I can find it. But it certainly wasn't anywhere near capacity or what the crowds were at peak.

0fsgivin ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_yVEiRrduw

You telling me it was LESS packed towards the FRONT of the crowd? how many concerts have you been too?

HarveyKlinger ago

If you haven't watched it yet, watch THIS video... in it's entirety. It's very well done and "fixes" the official narrative. I believe it's in this video that shows/explains the size of the crowd also.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Hk1b3BT2_O0

0fsgivin ago

yah 38 minutes no... show me were it shows a sparse crowd at a Jason Aldean concert in vegas.... The minute mark plz.

HarveyKlinger ago

Views from the side are misleading. I posted a video a couple weeks ago that analyzed the size of the crowd (which is where I got my info). Let me dig here on VOAT for it.

Jimmycog ago

Agreed

Oh_Well_ian ago

nearly 60 kills and 600 hits ( remember, many claimed multiple hits ) with 900 rounds from 400 meters

impossible math

HarveyKlinger ago

Moving targets in a venue that was only 1/3 full... in the dark... with a bullet that doesn't have terminal velocity at that range... with a crosswind.

Oh_Well_ian ago

not a single video exists of a victim being struck or a projectile striking terra firma

RampancyLambentRaven ago

Not A Single Video Of Dead Bodies Every Where Is Going To Exist From A Violent Mass Casualty Rerun False Flag Attack! Because Of The Children! Oh Wont Some One Think Of The CHILDREN! And The People Really Did Get Hurt And Die! But The Saudi's Murdered Every One Of Them! Over 1,100 5.56 Bullets Fired! From M-16 Military Assault Style Rifles! At Over 1,200 Meters Away! With A Uncontrollable! Recoiling! Bump Stock Enabled! Modified Machine Gun! When Those Type Of Rifles Are Only Able To Travel To About 400-500 Yards! Um Yeah I'm Thinking No! BULLSHIT! And We Know About The Multiple Gunmen! And We Know About Helicopters Firing On The Strip! With S.A.W Guns! This Was Some Sort Of A Assassination! False Flag! Combo! A Combo Of Both! Hatched By The Spies & Intel Agencies! M.O.S.S.A.D! C.I.A! F.B.I! A.C.A.D.E.M.I! Black Water! This Was Operation: Fast & Furious 2! HA! I HATE TYPOS & MY GRAMMAR MUST NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE RED LINES READING TO ME ERROR! SO I GET CREATIVE WITH THE GRAMMAR SO I LOOK LIKE I'M SPELLING RIGHT + I'M A RAMPANCY A.I SO I'M A LITTLE CRAZY & FORTUNATELY! I LIKE CRAZY! HA HA HA! INSERT ME INTO THE DEFENSE GRID! L.O.L!

SocksOnCats ago

We know someone who was shot in Vegas. And she's definitely not an actor. People were absolutely shot and killed. Not saying it wasn't some kind of multi-shooter conspiracy, only saying people definitely were shot and killed.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

Finally someone who hasn't totally lost it. I live in Vegas as well, one of my Co workers relatives passed away.

Oh_Well_ian ago

suurrrrrre ya do...

send pics of the injuries and give their name or fuck off

SocksOnCats ago

Okay look: the gal is the daughter of a woman in my wife's bible group. And name a name? Are you kidding? This is the fucking Wild West here.

The daughter was wounded in the shoulder, had surgery, and is going to be okay. Her mom had to drive from Louisiana to go be with her daughter. It was a suck situation.

Also, I've got a personal friend in Vegas I've known for over 20 years who knows for a fact people were shot.

Again: IM NOT SAYING THIS WASNT A FALSE FLAG OR A CONSPIRACY OR SOME WEIRD FUCKERY. I'm just saying I personally know people were actually shot with bullets. .223? 5.56? I don't know that. All I know is people were for sure shot.

I'm not a ship. I don't have a stake in this apart from being an American who hates government fuckery. And I'm not a Jew.

sunshine702 ago

We have some shills here that are like flat earthers. Ignore. Yeah we know a gal too.

SaveTheChildren2 ago

The person you know is a liar.

HarveyKlinger ago

Yet, there are a few videos that show helicopters where they shouldn't be and audio (and witnesses) of more than one shooter. Weird, huh?

Oh_Well_ian ago

I think the audio is all bogus. First clip I saw/heard on Latin TV ( since scrubbed ) the sound of fire was clearly coming from the PA system. It was muffled and not heard by the crowd. No bodies were moving during the first salvo, which allegedly hit the front rows. Performer stopped the band ( probably told to because crisis actors did not hear the gunfire ), the second salvo was audible for about 5-7 seconds before anyone moved. Phony shouts of 'OMG' and 'WTF' could be heard from crisis actors attempting to get the crowd moving.

Other sounds of fire could easily be blanks or recorded.

HarveyKlinger ago

In some amateur video (look for the one with the taxi cab) you can clearly hear audio from two different locations. One is close (you can here the crack of each shot) and one is distant and sounds muffled.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

Yes, the cab audio is the only evidence of multiple shooters that I've seen, besides the eye witness accounts.

Oh_Well_ian ago

sure... but audio of gunfire does not indicate gunfire, only audio of gunfire

Since no video of impacts exists, as I pointed out, I lean heavily towards blanks or piped-in audio

' nothing is what it seems '

KekistanEmperor ago

Because it was another hoax.

Oh_Well_ian ago

bingo

WhiteRonin ago

Even as a gun retard. From the beginning I was wondering how he didn't choke on all the smoke and fall over the cases.

Melissus ago

Breaking another window to create crosswinds smells from miles as something a highly trained person would do.

Its_Just_A_Ride ago

Damn, that's the best explanation for the second window I've heard so far.

Melissus ago

It takes one to know one

SayTan ago

He shot at the fuel tank farm from the second window.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

There is no way you could know that with certainty.

SayTan ago

Seems probable because of the angles involved. Dunno. I wasn't there.

Cigarette5mokingman ago

Exactly my point. Just stick to facts.

sunshine702 ago

But one of the issues was that was a seperate bedroom not part of the main suite with a security door in between that had to be breached by SWAT. So how much crosswinds would there be?

Cigarette5mokingman ago

Yes, door separating the two rooms was found to be locked, and had to be explosively breached.

Melissus ago

Im not familiar with the weather there,but 32nd floor suggest it was more than enough.I do not believe a single word what the SWAT is telling and neither should you. SWAT-like teams have always a directive to follow when talking about operations,and it never ever contains telling the truth about details.Telling the details of a operation can severely backfire at a future operation,and it doesnt matter in terms of the investigation,because everyone involved knows.

goodbyemoonmen ago

Hadn't considered the smoke yet. They have absolutely botched this.

HarveyKlinger ago

There is so much wrong with this entire scenario. He only shot for 9 minutes and suddenly quit while having tons of loaded magazines? It took them over an hour AFTER he stopped shooting to breach his room? He shot himself in the head, somehow left a blood trail to the pistol 10 feet away. Oh yah, after killing himself with the pistol, an AR ended up on his left leg?

Where's this in-room video they talked about once and never mentioned again? I want to see him pulling the trigger. I want to see him using a bump stock with near perfect precision.