look at the context. during a job you are being compensated to do something other than preach your views. so yes, during that time you have no first amendment because you agreed to that fact.
I don't give a shit about your rationale. If the first amendment isn't prized culturally in a private sphere, then it is completely useless. 99% of our interaction with other humans occurs while we are working. It wouldn't be impossible for us as a society to learn to not be offended by words that we don't like and all your cute little theory does ultimately is reinforce the legitimacy of being outraged by words and restricting their use.
well, I suggest you bring up your views to people at work and see what happens. theres what you want to see and then theres the real world. And simply put the boss has every right to shit can someone doing something that isnt their job on company time.
well, I suggest you bring up your views to people at work and see what happens.
and I suggest you dive head first off a cliff you anti-speech retard.
theres what you want to see and then theres the real world.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious, einstein. If you didn't have a room temp IQ, you would have understood I was talking about what ought to be, not what is. All you're saying is that what is is the only thing that can be, which is why you're such a useless retard
no, im saying that when someone pays you millions of dollars to play football you play football. not make pizza, not drive a car, not give out your political views.
besides, the entire ceremony is about patriotism, not politics. the kapernicks of the world (check out how his gilrfriend is sometime for an idea why he kneels) dont even know what they are doing.
You just don't get it. I think it's because you're one of those mindless political partisans that isn't capable of any real thought. You've memorized a position and all you can do is parrot it.
Yes, when someone is paying you, you don't have the right to use your job as your free speech platform. However, an argument like yours is just being a house nigger for authoritarianism and arguing how holy and good it is that our right to speech is taken from us in almost every venue available.You're arguing for the same goal of eradication of speech as antifa, you're just using an argument that is more appealing to conservatives.
There is no reason why as a society we couldn't learn that a person's speech is their own and not their employers and to hold the value that though they dislike that speech, the employer isn't to blame and it isn't inappropriate for the employee to say it just because they are on the clock. That is the kind of values we need to develop if we want to perpetuate free speech. You're defending the values that have as the inevitable end result the elimination of free speech entirely. If people like you had your way, we'd have a complete and unabridged right to freedom of speech, but only when there are no humans around that can hear it.
We take offense at everything because we are trained to. get the liberals out of the schools and stop training people to hate speech and work towards freedom of speech at work and everywhere else we may find ourselves. It's only when we are free to speak in meaningful arenas that freedom of speech has any value.
Yes, when someone is paying you, you don't have the right to use your job as your free speech platform.
This would suggest you acknowledge you CANNOT do something like spout on about your opinion to someone during work hours.
but then you said:
There is no reason why customers couldn't learn that a person's speech is their own and not their employers and to hold the value that though they dislike that speech, the employer isn't to blame and it isn't inappropriate for the employee to say it just because they are on the clock.
which means you are literally doing double-think, you mindless dolt. either you CAN spout your bullshit logic to someone as per your second point or you CANNOT as per your first.
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lestermacgurdy ago
fuck off. I'd rather you be damned
englishwebster ago
look at the context. during a job you are being compensated to do something other than preach your views. so yes, during that time you have no first amendment because you agreed to that fact.
lestermacgurdy ago
I don't give a shit about your rationale. If the first amendment isn't prized culturally in a private sphere, then it is completely useless. 99% of our interaction with other humans occurs while we are working. It wouldn't be impossible for us as a society to learn to not be offended by words that we don't like and all your cute little theory does ultimately is reinforce the legitimacy of being outraged by words and restricting their use.
englishwebster ago
well, I suggest you bring up your views to people at work and see what happens. theres what you want to see and then theres the real world. And simply put the boss has every right to shit can someone doing something that isnt their job on company time.
lestermacgurdy ago
and I suggest you dive head first off a cliff you anti-speech retard.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious, einstein. If you didn't have a room temp IQ, you would have understood I was talking about what ought to be, not what is. All you're saying is that what is is the only thing that can be, which is why you're such a useless retard
englishwebster ago
no, im saying that when someone pays you millions of dollars to play football you play football. not make pizza, not drive a car, not give out your political views.
besides, the entire ceremony is about patriotism, not politics. the kapernicks of the world (check out how his gilrfriend is sometime for an idea why he kneels) dont even know what they are doing.
lestermacgurdy ago
You just don't get it. I think it's because you're one of those mindless political partisans that isn't capable of any real thought. You've memorized a position and all you can do is parrot it.
Yes, when someone is paying you, you don't have the right to use your job as your free speech platform. However, an argument like yours is just being a house nigger for authoritarianism and arguing how holy and good it is that our right to speech is taken from us in almost every venue available.You're arguing for the same goal of eradication of speech as antifa, you're just using an argument that is more appealing to conservatives.
There is no reason why as a society we couldn't learn that a person's speech is their own and not their employers and to hold the value that though they dislike that speech, the employer isn't to blame and it isn't inappropriate for the employee to say it just because they are on the clock. That is the kind of values we need to develop if we want to perpetuate free speech. You're defending the values that have as the inevitable end result the elimination of free speech entirely. If people like you had your way, we'd have a complete and unabridged right to freedom of speech, but only when there are no humans around that can hear it.
We take offense at everything because we are trained to. get the liberals out of the schools and stop training people to hate speech and work towards freedom of speech at work and everywhere else we may find ourselves. It's only when we are free to speak in meaningful arenas that freedom of speech has any value.
englishwebster ago
first you said:
This would suggest you acknowledge you CANNOT do something like spout on about your opinion to someone during work hours.
but then you said:
which means you are literally doing double-think, you mindless dolt. either you CAN spout your bullshit logic to someone as per your second point or you CANNOT as per your first.
lestermacgurdy ago
no, it means you're too stupid to understand what I said. Beat it. we're done here.