if an echo chamber goes uncontrolled than it is grass roots propaganda, if it is controlled than it is astroturfed propaganda. expressions of political opinion are inherently propaganda. lets face some facts, all opinions are inherently biased, thus spreading of opinions is spreading of propaganda. voat is no less a propaganda tool than reddit is, it is just different propaganda. the current real public opinion is not in harmony. the public has been successfully divided by the elite.
I like to think that goats dictate the presence and success of material here. That is, without owner/admin influence on such, and without the silencing of one polical stance to favor another. Bots get banned here, whereas bots determine what material is most seen on reddit. Reddit admins take direct actions to suppress dissenting political views whereas that does not happen here.
At present I say there is a large difference between the two.
the vast majority of human communication is propaganda. the only human communication that is not propaganda is statements of fact (with no form of judgement over the fact). an example of a sentence that has no propaganda would be "i typed this message without using capital letters".
the term "nigger" contains a small amount of bias inherently (as was intended with the word for quite some time), so it is propaganda. however it is less propaganda than your typical MSM story is.
So if it's nearly impossible for two or more people to have a conversation without most or all of it technically being propaganda, then why point out that anything is propaganda in the first place?
saying something is propaganda is a form of propaganda. the term has gained negative connotations over time. you won't see me calling out propaganda for the most part. in fact if you comb through my comment history far enough you will find times where i admit that my own arguments are propaganda.
view the rest of the comments →
greycloud ago
if an echo chamber goes uncontrolled than it is grass roots propaganda, if it is controlled than it is astroturfed propaganda. expressions of political opinion are inherently propaganda. lets face some facts, all opinions are inherently biased, thus spreading of opinions is spreading of propaganda. voat is no less a propaganda tool than reddit is, it is just different propaganda. the current real public opinion is not in harmony. the public has been successfully divided by the elite.
facevalue ago
I like to think that goats dictate the presence and success of material here. That is, without owner/admin influence on such, and without the silencing of one polical stance to favor another. Bots get banned here, whereas bots determine what material is most seen on reddit. Reddit admins take direct actions to suppress dissenting political views whereas that does not happen here.
At present I say there is a large difference between the two.
greycloud ago
yes, the former (voat) is grass root propaganda where as reddit is using manipulated (astroturfed) propaganda.
facevalue ago
Under that definition, every human communication is propaganda.
greycloud ago
the vast majority of human communication is propaganda. the only human communication that is not propaganda is statements of fact (with no form of judgement over the fact). an example of a sentence that has no propaganda would be "i typed this message without using capital letters".
facevalue ago
So "Niggers are responsible for more violent crime than any other race in America" isn't propaganda right?
greycloud ago
the term "nigger" contains a small amount of bias inherently (as was intended with the word for quite some time), so it is propaganda. however it is less propaganda than your typical MSM story is.
facevalue ago
So if it's nearly impossible for two or more people to have a conversation without most or all of it technically being propaganda, then why point out that anything is propaganda in the first place?
greycloud ago
saying something is propaganda is a form of propaganda. the term has gained negative connotations over time. you won't see me calling out propaganda for the most part. in fact if you comb through my comment history far enough you will find times where i admit that my own arguments are propaganda.