they're flooding many subs of voat, like they (the mods confirmed it) posted cp to jailbait to get it banned they're doing the same but by posting shitty content in many subs.
The battle is never won, now with BOTS the NSA can just flood sites with bile. Give every user the 'turing' test, most bots are poorly written.
Don't give up, never quit, and never think its going to be easy.
Read Cass Sunsteins report and plan from 2007, and learn how they operate, know their plans.
Remember the U know the enemy, but he doesn't be know U.
I don't believe that most astroturfing is done by bots - there is no evidence to support this assertion. Operation Earnest Voice, for example, employs humans. That said, trolls and astroturfing may be from any source that wishes to harm a community. There is no solid evidence of the origins of this sort of disruptive content on our subverse.
You're right though that there is a test that can be applied to determine if commentary or content is valuable - we can check to see if it is logical, if it is an appeal to emotion, if it cites sources, if it is coherent and not random babbling, if it is bigoted, if it is low-quality content like memes, if it's a comment that helps people to think more critically about topics rather than cause people to polarize or to think less. Such a "test" can be applied by any person with the power to wield a downvote or respond with clarifying questions.
Would you like Boiled Dog for lunch? Or a Child's Liver, humans would be revolted by such an inquiry, a heartless bot just just keeps emitting text.
Hell even the call center folk would probably think the boiled-dog would create salivation, and a child's liver is worth big money in the Israel transplant biz.
Back in 1960's we had "ELIZA" and it fooled most people, today you have cleverbot.com and it will fool almost everyone, state of the art bots are commercially available that can fool 99%.
That said almost all BOTS cannot follow a request to "Google" something, they'll ask for a link, then they get back a pre-programmed canned response about how that site is anti-semitic are some other insipid BS.
Lastly, we regards to real humans, its always been a given since 1980's on these 'bulletin boards' that for every human there is 7-10 avatars.
Remember also that Israel is paying people $4,000/month by the 100's to play on the internet and will improve their reputation. Then toss in the folks in India working call centers with good english skills.
All this stuff can be found on the "Cass Sunstein" report from 2007, where they go into deep detail how they will control the internet post 2015.
Do you have any sources on the bulletin board "avatar" thing?
Do you have any sources about bots being used for astroturfing?
Do you have any sources for the $4000/month figure for Israeli hasbara?
Thank you for the zerohedge link. I have heard of the sunstein report, but hadn't actually read it. I reviewed it moments ago seeking anything about the use of programs or artificial intelligence, as well as anything about bulletin board "avatars", but did not see anything.
Thank you for this! The link to the second document in that post has 404'd but the first one is still there and a google translated version matches up fairly close with the electronicintifada's translateion.
google "zerohedge cass sunstein' they have written a dozen articles over the past 5 years on his programs, some go into great detail about how the actual processes work with graphs from NSA, a lot of this stuff is write out of SNOWDEN with Cass Sunsteins name on it.
a lot of people have put 2&2 together
there are 100's of companys selling bot's, there are many of these companys operating in israel, why not start one yourself? its where the money is these days,
IMHO most of this is just the fatigure factor, it will tire good people out, they get emotionally involved with say TPP, then go on line and chat, most likely with a BOT, then after many hours realize they might as well talk to their cat or dog :(
Essentially BOTS, and Indian call center employees don't care, and of course TROLLS don't care either
I always say if U don't care then your not human, the problem is the NSA NEOCON ruling the world are NOT human, they lost their humanity long ago, they only have one goal
to make every woman on earth a whore
to make every man a slave
google "zerohedge cass sunstein' they have written a dozen articles over the past 5 years on his programs, some go into great detail about how the actual processes work with graphs from NSA, a lot of this stuff is write out of SNOWDEN with Cass Sunsteins name on it.
Hmm. I searched for cass sunstein and it turned up a few results, but nothing about bots or computer-automated online propaganda:
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Sticky ago
they're flooding many subs of voat, like they (the mods confirmed it) posted cp to jailbait to get it banned they're doing the same but by posting shitty content in many subs.
obama2016nazi ago
The battle is never won, now with BOTS the NSA can just flood sites with bile. Give every user the 'turing' test, most bots are poorly written. Don't give up, never quit, and never think its going to be easy. Read Cass Sunsteins report and plan from 2007, and learn how they operate, know their plans. Remember the U know the enemy, but he doesn't be know U.
"Be like water" - Sun Tzu, Art of War
Mumberthrax ago
I don't believe that most astroturfing is done by bots - there is no evidence to support this assertion. Operation Earnest Voice, for example, employs humans. That said, trolls and astroturfing may be from any source that wishes to harm a community. There is no solid evidence of the origins of this sort of disruptive content on our subverse.
You're right though that there is a test that can be applied to determine if commentary or content is valuable - we can check to see if it is logical, if it is an appeal to emotion, if it cites sources, if it is coherent and not random babbling, if it is bigoted, if it is low-quality content like memes, if it's a comment that helps people to think more critically about topics rather than cause people to polarize or to think less. Such a "test" can be applied by any person with the power to wield a downvote or respond with clarifying questions.
obama2016nazi ago
Think 'Blade Runner" Voight-Comp Test
Would you like Boiled Dog for lunch? Or a Child's Liver, humans would be revolted by such an inquiry, a heartless bot just just keeps emitting text. Hell even the call center folk would probably think the boiled-dog would create salivation, and a child's liver is worth big money in the Israel transplant biz.
obama2016nazi ago
Back in 1960's we had "ELIZA" and it fooled most people, today you have cleverbot.com and it will fool almost everyone, state of the art bots are commercially available that can fool 99%.
That said almost all BOTS cannot follow a request to "Google" something, they'll ask for a link, then they get back a pre-programmed canned response about how that site is anti-semitic are some other insipid BS.
Lastly, we regards to real humans, its always been a given since 1980's on these 'bulletin boards' that for every human there is 7-10 avatars.
Remember also that Israel is paying people $4,000/month by the 100's to play on the internet and will improve their reputation. Then toss in the folks in India working call centers with good english skills.
All this stuff can be found on the "Cass Sunstein" report from 2007, where they go into deep detail how they will control the internet post 2015.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-25/obama-picks-cass-sunstein-america%E2%80%99s-joseph-goebbles-serve-nsa-oversight-panel
Mumberthrax ago
Do you have any sources on the bulletin board "avatar" thing?
Do you have any sources about bots being used for astroturfing?
Do you have any sources for the $4000/month figure for Israeli hasbara?
Thank you for the zerohedge link. I have heard of the sunstein report, but hadn't actually read it. I reviewed it moments ago seeking anything about the use of programs or artificial intelligence, as well as anything about bulletin board "avatars", but did not see anything.
obama2016nazi ago
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook
$2,000 is entry, but I have heard of some getting up to $10k/month
Mumberthrax ago
Thank you for this! The link to the second document in that post has 404'd but the first one is still there and a google translated version matches up fairly close with the electronicintifada's translateion.
obama2016nazi ago
google "zerohedge cass sunstein' they have written a dozen articles over the past 5 years on his programs, some go into great detail about how the actual processes work with graphs from NSA, a lot of this stuff is write out of SNOWDEN with Cass Sunsteins name on it.
a lot of people have put 2&2 together
there are 100's of companys selling bot's, there are many of these companys operating in israel, why not start one yourself? its where the money is these days,
IMHO most of this is just the fatigure factor, it will tire good people out, they get emotionally involved with say TPP, then go on line and chat, most likely with a BOT, then after many hours realize they might as well talk to their cat or dog :( Essentially BOTS, and Indian call center employees don't care, and of course TROLLS don't care either
I always say if U don't care then your not human, the problem is the NSA NEOCON ruling the world are NOT human, they lost their humanity long ago, they only have one goal
to make every woman on earth a whore to make every man a slave
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-era-of-dissolution.html
Mumberthrax ago
Hmm. I searched for cass sunstein and it turned up a few results, but nothing about bots or computer-automated online propaganda: