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FreeSpeechAboveAll ago

Could you condense some of that?

Crensch ago

Nah, that's part of their bullshit tactic.

And btw, in that link, it's a GISH GALLOP not a fucking TRUMP TIRADE - stupid looney leftist faggots.

4Huma2printathome ago

What are you talking about? Just to be clear my beloved new friend, I hate all of the politicians.

I'm not left unless the left wants to tear everything down and start fresh. I'm pretty sure the proper term is anarchist, but I'm opposed to loud noises and violence, so very shortly I will be packing up my shit and moving to an uninhabited forest, where I will make a new life for myself inside of a tree.

Also thank you so much for reading and commenting on this thread. Even though it appears you have not looked at any of the videos, pictures or evidence I have included specifically for you in this thread or that you have in any way, stopped to consider a theory that might challenge your beliefs, I still very much sense that you have a lot of heart --- so you get out there and have a wonderful day tiger! Go reach your dreams!

But first, Please explain to me, how in fucks name I am helping the establishment when I am literally calling these mofo pieces of shit --- satanists who fuck and eat children in the name of demons and lucifer?

Crensch ago

Even though it appears you have not looked at any of the videos, pictures or evidence I have included specifically for you in this thread or that you have in any way, stopped to consider a theory that might challenge your beliefs, I still very much sense that you have a lot of heart

Yeah, you asked that specific question about relativity, and you didn't stop to consider that it might challenge your beliefs.

4Huma2printathome ago

lol I did not. I didn't ask you anything about the theory of relativity, you brought it up.

You are the one making the assumption that the theory of relativity is correct. Not me, because I think it's bullshit.

Interesting in that in order for this theory to be correct, it would be mean approximately 95% of all observable matter in the universe would have to be an invisible form of exotic energy called "dark matter or dark energy."

I was always taught that the observable evidence had to match the theory, but I guess NASA and our satanic elite know better right?

Observable facts and common fucking sense doesn't apply to them right?!

Do any of these pictures seem "pear like to you?" Because they look perfectly round and CGI/"cartoon like" to me.

As I said, maybe I'm just an idiot who can't quite grasp why the shape of North America would have changed so dramatically in size in the pictures NASA has shown us from picture to picture year to year? Nor does it explain all of the CGI errors in the "live NASA ISS" feeds. The fuckers.

Just YouTube NASA bloopers or fails.

Crensch ago

I didn't ask you anything about the theory of relativity, you brought it up.

Yeah, you did.

Does spinning 1000 mph on top of a wobbly, tilted ball around a ball of fire in the sky (the sun) which is also spinning 100 000 mph around a black hole not sound a little far fetched?

Unless your farcical rhetoric was merely about kindergarten-level "bwahaha, that just makes NO sense" which, of course it doesn't. If everything made sense to a child, you wouldn't need physicists.

You are the one making the assumption that the theory of relativity is correct. Not me, because I think it's bullshit.

I'm asserting that the math WORKS. Without it, GPS doesn't work, and I do pretty well getting places with one.

Interesting in that in order for this theory to be correct, it would be mean approximately 95% of all observable matter in the universe would have to be an invisible form of exotic energy called "dark matter or dark energy."

So?

I was always taught that the observable evidence had to match the theory, but I guess NASA and our satanic elite know better right?

Just because you cannot see wind doesn't mean air particles aren't slamming against you when you feel a breeze. You can observe the EFFECTS of something to determine that something is there. You can even LABEL that unknown something as "dark matter" or "dark energy", and while the reality of the thing might be different later on, the EFFECTS of that unknown thing will be the same.

Your arguments are seriously awful.

Observable facts and common fucking sense doesn't apply to them right?!

OF COURSE THEY DON'T. That's why you need people that study this shit for a living, and design things that WORK based on them.

As I said, maybe I'm just an idiot

Yeah. You could educate yourself on these things, but you don't. You take this petulant stance of "there's no COMMON SENSE to it, therefore it's wrong" - which is just emotional reasoning and really rather stupid.

4Huma2printathome ago

You seem so angry bro. 😔😥😰

I have offended your delicate sensibilities with the truth and accept that this is my fault and I am truly sorry.

In retrospect, perhaps I was a little rude. You see, I get a little defensive because people are so fucking brainwashed that they refuse to think beyond what they were taught in school. They refuse to consider that the same secret societies that controlled our relgions, mass media and governments might just get a kick out of holding back our education and scientific development.

But obviously you're not like that though...you've looked at all of the pictures, research and videos I presented just for you.

Wait what, no you didn't? You refused because you know better right? And instead just garbled back all that fucking bullshit you were taught in school without answering any of my questions?

Let me be clear. I've never been to space either. I don't have any answers. I just have a lot of questions.

For example:

  1. Why is the earth now pear shaped (and again this is not a little bulge according to NASA/NAZI/SATAN) when every single picture ever shown to us of the earth from space depicts the earth as perfectly round?

  2. Why has the shape of North America drastically changed in size from picture to picture, year to year? Again according to NASA?

  3. Why are there so many places that we shouldn't be able to see (because of the curvature of the earth) that we can see?

  4. Why did I get to watch an entire space ship and crew explode into pieces on live tv back in the 80s only to find out that all these astronauts/actors miraculously survived?

  5. How can you not see the absurdity in being fed a theory that is so far off base that it can't explain 95% of the observable universe and instead makes up an invisible type of matter that can only be conceptualized with insanely complex and convoluted equations --- that has never even been proved?!

This exotic "dark matter" and "dark energy"

Come on man. They're just fucking laughing at all of us. 😡

Do you not understand how fucking evil these people are who have been running our countries?!

They literally fuck and cannabalize children, but you don't think they'd lie to you about say, the very nature of reality?!

At least keep an open mind. That is all I'm asking!

The whole thing is absurd, i know, but then so is child eating politicians and sadly, we know how long that's been going on. (Since the beginning of time would be my guess)

Just YouTube NASA ISS fails and i truly believe you will get a sense at how ridiculous the world wide space program is.

I have more, but am simply exhausted from my one man holy war against the reddit admin. 😔

But smarty pants, if you'd be so kind, rather then insult me --- please educate me and answer those 5 questions.

Thanks so much and never forget, all of this aside. I think you are a smart cookie and I truly value your opinion.

Namaste my beloved new friend! 🤠

Crensch ago

You seem so angry bro. 😔😥😰

You seem stupid, more-so because you're wrong about this, but I'm certain you're building to a wonderful tone-fallacy.

I have offended your delicate sensibilities with the truth and accept that this is my fault and I am truly sorry.

No, you haven't.

In retrospect, perhaps I was a little rude. You see, I get a little defensive because people are so fucking brainwashed that they refuse to think beyond what they were taught in school.

Quantum physics isn't taught in school, unless you're talking about college, and even then it's mostly not taught.

They refuse to consider that the same secret societies that controlled our relgions, mass media and governments might just get a kick out of holding back our education and scientific development.

I like how no new technology ever came from believing in a flat earth, while GPS came from understanding relativity.

But obviously you're not like that though...you've looked at all of the pictures, research and videos I presented just for you.

I don't respond to hand-waving arguments. If you cannot explain it yourself, then you don't have any business expressing it to others. The sign of a weak mind, "Oh, you're wrong, here's a youtube video and 100 pages of text for you to trawl through to find out I'm right".

Pathetic argumentation tactic.

Wait what, no you didn't? You refused because you know better right? And instead just garbled back all that fucking bullshit you were taught in school without answering any of my questions?

I didn't learn this shit in school, I studied it on my own time.

Let me be clear. I've never been to space either. I don't have any answers. I just have a lot of questions.

Let me be clear. You don't have answers, but somehow you have answers that negate my answers. You're an idiot.

Why is the earth now pear shaped (and again this is not a little bulge according to NASA/NAZI/SATAN) when every single picture ever shown to us of the earth from space depicts the earth as perfectly round?

Oh WOW. Really? THE ATMOSPHERE IS SPHERICAL, MORON. The land mass is not.

Why has the shape of North America drastically changed in size from picture to picture, year to year? Again according to NASA?

Are you unaware of how landmasses change dimensions when you're looking at them from different angles on a sphere?

Why are there so many places that we shouldn't be able to see (because of the curvature of the earth) that we can see?

What are you even talking about?

Why did I get to watch an entire space ship and crew explode into pieces on live tv back in the 80s only to find out that all these astronauts/actors miraculously survived?

Again, instead of WoTing and linking in a rambling, incoherent post that nobody asked about, why don't you source each point as you make it in a discussion? Oh right, because then you'd be proven wrong and not be able to hide behind your unsupported assertions.

How can you not see the absurdity in being fed a theory that is so far off base that it can't explain 95% of the observable universe and instead makes up an invisible type of matter that can only be conceptualized with insanely complex and convoluted equations --- that has never even been proved?!

Yours explains much, much less. Guess I'll go with 5%.

4Huma2printathome ago

But why go with a theory that is so obviously wrong? I don't have the answers, I didn't make this space deception up...I just have a ton of very reasonable questions.

And I did provide a whole bunch of pictures and proof and when you've watched those videos or truly considered all of the things that are wrong with our current scientific model, perhaps we can have a more fruitful conversation.

Because you're replies aren't making any sense to me.

But as I said, I guess I'm just an idiot who can't understand why the shape and size of our continents would vary so much from picture to picture in all the cgi images NASA has given us?

Also since when is the earth pear shaped? If you watched that video I linked above at approx min 8:40 you would see that this isn't a little bulge we're talking about --- at least according to NASA.

And yes there are many, many places we can see from a distance, that should be impossible because of the apparent "curvature" of the earth --- this is kinda "flat earth theory" 101. I'll rustle up those videos when i have more time. Though you could save me the trouble and just research it yourself --- unless you're a pussy that is..

The reason why I have to write this way --- is because the whole world wide space deception is in fact --- absurd!

Please youtube ISS fails or ISS bloopers and you will see how fake it is. I'll return in a bit and add some links for your viewing pleasure. It's a pain in the ass to do so from a mobile.

Please forgive this inconvenience. Namaste for now dear friend. (You might hate my guts but I think you are a smart cookie! And I enjoy reading your opinions however woefully misguided they might be! 💩)

Crensch ago

But why go with a theory that is so obviously wrong?

Because it's not.

I don't have the answers, I didn't make this space deception up...I just have a ton of very reasonable questions.

You don't have the answers, so nobody can have the answers? Get real. You're here pushing an alternative idea that has absolutely no basis in anything resembling reality. You also don't have reasonable questions - you have unreasonable demands on the science, and unreasonable acceptance of your pet feel-good idea.

And I did provide a whole bunch of pictures and proof and when you've watched those videos or truly considered all of the things that are wrong with our current scientific model, perhaps we can have a more fruitful conversation.

Neither I, nor anyone, would ever trawl through your abortion of an OP to find your arguments for you. That's on YOU to provide at the proper time.

Because you're replies aren't making any sense to me.

*your

But as I said, I guess I'm just an idiot who can't understand why the shape and size of our continents would vary so much from picture to picture in all the cgi images NASA has given us?

No images provided, just the assertion that such a thing exists. Congratulations, you are the idiot you keep sarcastically calling yourself. Nobody believes you because you don't provide the evidence for your claims in the argument. You just post it all in one big diarrhea gish-gallop post that was probably written by someone else somewhere and it made you feel good to copy and paste it.

Also since when is the earth pear shaped?

It's not. It's an oblate spheroid.

If you watched that video I linked above at approx min 8:40 you would see that this isn't a little bulge we're talking about --- at least according to NASA.

You didn't link anything to me that wasn't in your TL;DR OP.

And yes there are many, many places we can see from a distance, that should be impossible because of the apparent "curvature" of the earth --- this is kinda "flat earth theory" 101.

No, you can't.

I'll rustle up those videos when i have more time.

If you don't have time to follow through, piss off until you do. Delaying tactics like this aren't convincing in the least.

Though you could save me the trouble and just research it yourself --- unless you're a pussy that is..

You could save me the trouble and actually learn about relativity and space --- unless you're a pussy that is..

See how that works? See how that absolutely fucking doesn't work? Yes, if you weren't sure up to this point, you are an imbecile. This is the level your brain works at - you find this kind of argument to be worthy of you typing it out and submitting it, whereas any rational, reasonable, intelligent human would be positively embarrassed to have written such a thing.

The reason why I have to write this way --- is because the whole world wide space deception is in fact --- absurd!

Repeating that over and over doesn't make it true. Another one of your brilliant plans that to anyone else would be a massive brain fart while under the influence of a buttload of alcohol.

Please youtube ISS fails or ISS bloopers and you will see how fake it is.

Please youtube flat earth debunking and you will see how fake it is.

Could you stop hand-waving me to other shit already? That's how it works - just like that. What was accomplished here, retard? Nothing. Because nobody will ever do your work for you.

Then again, you said you were a woman, so it's not surprising that you wouldn't do any footwork for anything, and instead expect a man to do it.

Please forgive this inconvenience. Namaste for now dear friend.

Yeah, hindus aren't much better than muslims, so keep at it.

(You might hate my guts but I think you are a smart cookie! And I enjoy reading your opinions however woefully misguided they might be! 💩)

Thanks for the patronizing bullshit; I don't believe a word of it.

4Huma2printathome ago

listen buddy, I'm on my mobile --- some people have to go out and pretend to work. But all of the links are actually provided in the OP which you have so obviously not read or clicked on.

Do you need me to wipe your ass while I'm at it?

And You are the one arguing with me using a "never once been proven"mathematical thought experiment "the theory of relativity" and believe it or not, "Gravity" that in fact has no basis in reality.

And again, if you would have watched that video I posted in the OP you will see just a sampling of the many places that we shouldn't be able to see due to the curvature of the earth.

But instead you bitch at me and say I haven't provided proof --- which tells me that you can't possibly have looked at any of the proofs I provided in my OP?!

Instead your arguing and picking apart my very reasonable questions based on a ridiculous theory that can't even explain 95% of the known universe --- instead it has to make up an invisible type of matter (Dark Matter & Dark Energy) and I'm the fucking idiot?

And You better believe I'm being sarcastic.. but yeah .when you or one of the freemason, satanic muppets can solve the mathematical equation to gravity or relativity --- then I will at least consider your bullshit theory.

But until then, please please, explain to me when the fuck the earth became Pear shaped?! When every single cgi image ever shown to us of the earth from space has been a perfect ball. Again all the proof can be found in the videos I presented in the op.

Don't be lazy, that's how people get fat. Thanks though for taking the time to response. Some might call you a modern day saint! I wouldn't though, I think your being a dick. 💩

Crensch ago

listen buddy, I'm on my mobile --- some people have to go out and pretend to work. But all of the links are actually provided in the OP which you have so obviously not read or clicked on.

Cool, all the links are actually provided by google, which you have so obviously not read or clicked on.

Do you need me to wipe your ass while I'm at it?

Do you need me to get your mother to wipe your ass while I'm at it?

And You are the one arguing with me using a "never once been proven"mathematical thought experiment "the theory of relativity" and believe it or not, "Gravity" that in fact has no basis in reality.

Wow. "i have no answers" then "you are the one using blah blah not been proven" - which sounds exactly like every CT hack ever.

Some conspiracy theories are correct, but the ones that aren't all argue in the way you have been. I can use literally every argument you've presented against you, which means you are actually quite stupid, and believe absurdities that you cannot defend.

But instead you bitch at me and say I haven't provided proof --- which tells me that you can't possibly have looked at any of the proofs I provided in my OP?!

You cannot possibly have looked at google which I provided by typing www.google.com, or the entire Encyclopedia Britannica, where you can trawl through it and find this exact argument and your answers to it.

The fact is, you don't have the answers to these things, and you hope I believe you that they exist, but can't find them, or I DO find them, debunk them, and then you hand-wave to another facet of your diarrhea OP and I give up - like you did when you were convinced of this delusion.

/golfclap

4Huma2printathome ago

Hey buddy, so I posted a reply to you with lots of video evidence like you requested.

I have no doubt that you'll discount some of the videos right away, but it's pretty hard to ignore it all imho.

Use you're common sense when watching them please, if you still can't see that we've been lied to, well, thanks still for keeping an open mind.

Crensch ago

Hey buddy, so I posted a reply to you with lots of video evidence like you requested.

No, you didn't. If you had, I'd have gotten a notification of it.

I have no doubt that you'll discount some of the videos right away, but it's pretty hard to ignore it all imho.

So you're admitting you just posted a ton of bullshit somewhere? It certainly wasn't in a reply to me.

Use you're common sense when watching them please,

your*

if you still can't see that we've been lied to, well, thanks still for keeping an open mind.

But you said you don't have the answers? This is an answer. Why are you so shady about this shit?

4Huma2printathome ago

I am literally the opposite of shady --I hate deception- and most certainly did post a reply in this thread:

https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy/1770415/8708216/10#8708216

Have a great night!

Crensch ago

I am literally the opposite of shady --I hate deception- and most certainly did post a reply in this thread:

A reply to your own OP is not a reply to me, you shady fuck. You hate deception but it's taken you thins long to even begin to support your claims.

My rather eccentric beliefs can't really be proven and don't negate flat earth truth which you can actually see for yourself.

What the fuck is this shit? You have all the answers, the world is flat, but it can't be proven?

I'm not going to trudge through a huge TL;DR. I already said I wouldn't. So stop responding to me directly with shifty-fuck language and get after it point by point as we go. Just as with your stupid non-reply comment, I could just hand-wave you to some flat-earth debunking site with some rambling, irrelevant narrative or life's story with it.

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-flat-earth-theory-14-ways-the-flat-earth-theory-is-false.t7148/ http://www.space.news/2016-03-14-flat-earthers-debunked-how-we-know-the-earth-and-moon-are-spheres-not-discs.html https://www.distract101.com/2017/01/flat-earth-theory-debunked-complete-guide/ http://whatculture.com/science/9-most-popular-flat-earth-arguments-debunked http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Flat_Earth http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/flat-earth-is-not-the-answer/ https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-debunk-the-flat-earth-theories https://www.quora.com/I-recently-heard-this-flat-earth-argument-and-I-dont-know-how-to-respond-Read-Details-for-more http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/629355/Flat-Earth-News-Thousands-believe-madcap-theory-world-is-REALLY-a-dome-topped-disc https://www.metabunk.org/earth-curvature-refraction-experiments-debunking-flat-concave-earth.t6042/page-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

There. We're nowhere near even, because my links at the very least aren't shrouded in your stupid wordsalad bullshit post, but it's a start. I'm sure you'll go through every site there, and every word, and find your answer.

Oh, you don't like that? That's what you're doing here, only worse.

Also, if you debunk everything, I can just handwave you to another link - let me know!

Or you could write what your actual beliefs are, what convinced you, and why you continue to believe them without putting them in something so long that a glance at it will cause people to not give a fuck. Nobody will give a fuck *because to debunk it they'd need more than an hour just to address your likely misconceptions or base-level fallacies.