Okay, I don't want to alarm anyone here. But on Reddit "Showerthoughts" at precisely 11:11 pm last night (okay it might not have been 11:11 on the nose --- I was simply too heartbroken to check, but let me tell you it had to have been a very important illuminati number and time because without any explanation or reasonable just cause --- Reddit declared a jihad on me :(
I was first --- Shadowbanned --- and then--- those fuckers quickly Perma-banned me.
And it just doesn't even make sense because as soon as I realized their fuckery, I immediately private messaged every single mod that I could to find, well over 4 dozen --- so that I might find out in detail what I had done wrong and what they would suggest I do in order to correct this in the future.
So this is what seemed to upset those cock suckling scrotum bags. The original post itself was deleted, so I was forced to set up a new account and private message as many people as I could.
I truly don't understand why reddit admin have to shit all over everything pure and good like sweet baby Jesus and my flat earth rants. :(
Hi!
Reddit completely shadowbanned me over 2 very friendly and not at all insane flat earth posts. Odd that they won't allow any reasonable debate on Flat Earth. If this is such a ridiculous theory, I can't help but wonder, why not let the absurdity of our claims speak for themselves?
https://www.reddit.com/user/SantaStoleMyCookies/
So in case you are interested, here are my 2 posts that Reddit determined were worthy of a ban. I was just trying to have a little bit of fun to be honest and to point out that our conventional Big Bang theory on creation, despite everything that scientists may claim, does indeed take a giant leap of faith on behalf of anyone who has never been to space, whose teachers have never to space and also those critical thinkers who might just be suspicious of a Space Program that was actually founded (and lead) but NAZI war criminals like Werner Von Braun and acclaimed pedo-Satanists like Jim Parsons.
Werner Von Braun --- NAZI Rocket Scientist --- Head of NASA --- Isn't he handsome?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
Satanist Jim Parsons --- NASA Rocket Scientist - Pedo-cannibal-extraordinaire!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_(rocket_engineer)
Interesting side note: Did you know that the demon satanist Aleister Crowley channelled looks just like a Gray Alien? Neat right?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Aleister+Crowley+Gray+Alien+wiki&atb=v39-1aq&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.occultphysics.com%2Fimages%2FCrowley-Lam-grey-alien.gif
Also do you remember, by chance, that NASA space crew that we watced literally explode into pieces on live TV during the 80s? This devastated a nation and long story short --- their space shuttle "blew up" --- as rockets and missles so tragically often do. :(
Anyways, great news! Did you know that every single one of these astronauts/actors are still alive and kicking today? Some of them subtlety changed their names, some of them didn't even bother. Some even took on the identity of their "identical twin." And they all look exactly like you'd expect them to look after 25 years. Curious.
https://youtu.be/q4t4fjYkWc8
Also, have you ever wondered why, maybe, so many archaeologists, military pilots, consumer pilots, naval officers, land surveyors, mathematicians and life long flat earth researchers would literally be screaming from their rooftops for so many years that NASA has lied to us about the shape of the earth?
But I guess this massively growing movement is just stupid people being stupid right? Or crazy people who just can't seem to understand why the shape of our earth's continents and oceans have dramatically changed so much in size over the last 75 years.
Idiots, like myself, who simply can't wrap their head around when the shape of the earth shifted from a round ball to a pear?
I know what you're thinking...silly flat earther, he thinks that a subtle pear like bulge in the earth is something to get all hot and bothered about right?
Nope. Here's, NASA's spokesman's Neil deGrasse Tyson --- telling us that our earth has in fact quite the noticeable pot belly.
Check it out at approximately minute 8:40. (Seems like Neil deGrasse is a super knowledgeable and honest guy right?)
https://youtu.be/PBD7A-OMWyE
So um, after watching this muppet, my question is --- why has every single image of the earth, that has ever been shown to us from space --- has shown the earth to be a perfectly round ball?
But forgive me, I don't want to start to rant, that's not my style. Without further adieu: here are the 2 posts that got me banned from Reddit. Please enjoy. This is all I wrote and you will soon clearly see that all I truly intended to do was bring a little fun, joy and laugher to an obviously painful and difficult post by the OP. Thank-you so much for reading. :)
TL:DR --- The Earth is Flat --- You are under a spell --- Time to Wake the F*** Up please. (Thanks!)
Here we go --- buckle up friend:
Friendly Post 1 --- in response to the OP --- Sent to you this morning --- because f*** corporate greed and censorship!
I agree, Flat Earthers are without a doubt the pinnacle of hillbilly ignorance!
That is why I'm so happy that reddit is an anonymous forum, where I may wonder without shame, why the NASA/SATAN space deception has never shown us any real time videos of people, places or things, walking around, upside down? (One would think, with all the trillions upon trillions dollars that we have poured into our space program, that they'd have given us at least one "money shot" by now right?)
Just imagine, what an incredible sight it would be, to see a giant ship, on the bottom of the earth, gracefully gliding through the ocean? (Upside down) And not to be too picky, but at this point, would it be too much to ask for some kind of Pirate theme?
Oh I know! How about a live dolphin show from Sea World? That would just be too cool!
The possibilities are simply endless!!! :)
And please, please don't misunderstand me! I am well aware that our slightly wobbly and tilted "Space Ship Earth" does, without question, spin a whopping 1000 mph around a highly combustible burning ball of fire in the sky (our sun) --- which according to NASA, is also hurtling 600 000 miles per hour around a "black hole" in the centre of our galaxy. This totally seems legit.
Btw, did you know that the earth has moved? And that we are no longer in the outer edges of our milky way galaxy? TIL we are now halfway to the centre! Yee haw!!! Not to slut shame or anything, but it appears our solar system really gets around! By the time I hit 50, I'd bet the farm that our earth will have slid "sliders style" right through a Black Hole!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=earth%27s+location+in+the+milky+way&atb=v39-1aq&iar=images&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spaceexplained.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2Fsun-location-in-galaxy.jpg
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=NASA+lies+earth&atb=v39-1aq&iar=images&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogtalkradio.com%2Fapi%2Fimage%2Fresize%2F400x297%2FaHR0cDovL2NkbjIuYnRyc3RhdGljLmNvbS9waWNzL3Nob3dwaWNzL2xhcmdlLzY4MTIwM196eVlxY1J4Wi5qcGc%2F681203_zyYqcRxZ.jpg%3Fmode%3DFill
And believe me when I say, that no one in their right mind, would ever dispute that of all that shakin' and a bakin' the earth does around in space, is why all the people on the bottom of the earth, who are walking around, upside down (from my perspective anyways --- which in case you can't tell --- is always from the top of the world) and is also why all the oceans, tigers, monkeys and hot dog stands have never once fallen off.
But, if you have an open mind, would you not agree that the NEVER ONCE PROVEN equation for Gravity has to be some kind of incredible, Grand Deception type magic spell or something, when we appreciate how it keeps the water in our oceans and the dust on my front porch stuck so securely to the ground, while still allowing a gravity defying fleet of fruit flies to follow my clementines around every day on the way to work?
Listen, I'm not trying to be nuisance or anything here and I worry that I may have already rambled on for too long. And for that I am truly, very sorry.
All I'm trying to say, is just that wouldn't it be really, really neat? And it wouldn't it also shut up all those Flat Earth morons once and for all, if NASA/SATAN would be so kind as to show the world a real time live video stream of me, sitting on a bench in Central Park, upside down while eating a replica of Donald Trumps hat.
Thanks and have a great night!
Friendly Post 2: In reference to a poster who thinks it's totally normal for our planes to leave such thick, chemical laden exhaust fumes in our beautiful blue sky --- to the point where these fumes begin block out the Sun. And was upset that people might get a little touchy about this subject.
You make an excellent point. This world should never be taken too seriously, not with planes spraying chemicals in our sky or they FDA and Monsanto allowing poisons into our food and water supply. Anyone foolish enough to research these topics too seriously will surely go insane!
One moment, I just need to wipe some spittle and foam off my chins. Okay, I'm good! :)
Anyhoo, wanna see something really neat? This is what our weather patterns would look like on flat earth:
https://youtu.be/wqKTLzUKqDc
Also, if you want to see what these crazy kids really believe in, check this fun video out:
https://youtu.be/PBD7A-OMWyE
VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
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FreeSpeechAboveAll ago
Could you condense some of that?
Crensch ago
Nah, that's part of their bullshit tactic.
And btw, in that link, it's a GISH GALLOP not a fucking TRUMP TIRADE - stupid looney leftist faggots.
4Huma2printathome ago
What are you talking about? Just to be clear my beloved new friend, I hate all of the politicians.
I'm not left unless the left wants to tear everything down and start fresh. I'm pretty sure the proper term is anarchist, but I'm opposed to loud noises and violence, so very shortly I will be packing up my shit and moving to an uninhabited forest, where I will make a new life for myself inside of a tree.
Also thank you so much for reading and commenting on this thread. Even though it appears you have not looked at any of the videos, pictures or evidence I have included specifically for you in this thread or that you have in any way, stopped to consider a theory that might challenge your beliefs, I still very much sense that you have a lot of heart --- so you get out there and have a wonderful day tiger! Go reach your dreams!
But first, Please explain to me, how in fucks name I am helping the establishment when I am literally calling these mofo pieces of shit --- satanists who fuck and eat children in the name of demons and lucifer?
Crensch ago
Yeah, you asked that specific question about relativity, and you didn't stop to consider that it might challenge your beliefs.
4Huma2printathome ago
lol I did not. I didn't ask you anything about the theory of relativity, you brought it up.
You are the one making the assumption that the theory of relativity is correct. Not me, because I think it's bullshit.
Interesting in that in order for this theory to be correct, it would be mean approximately 95% of all observable matter in the universe would have to be an invisible form of exotic energy called "dark matter or dark energy."
I was always taught that the observable evidence had to match the theory, but I guess NASA and our satanic elite know better right?
Observable facts and common fucking sense doesn't apply to them right?!
Do any of these pictures seem "pear like to you?" Because they look perfectly round and CGI/"cartoon like" to me.
As I said, maybe I'm just an idiot who can't quite grasp why the shape of North America would have changed so dramatically in size in the pictures NASA has shown us from picture to picture year to year? Nor does it explain all of the CGI errors in the "live NASA ISS" feeds. The fuckers.
Just YouTube NASA bloopers or fails.
Crensch ago
Yeah, you did.
Unless your farcical rhetoric was merely about kindergarten-level "bwahaha, that just makes NO sense" which, of course it doesn't. If everything made sense to a child, you wouldn't need physicists.
I'm asserting that the math WORKS. Without it, GPS doesn't work, and I do pretty well getting places with one.
So?
Just because you cannot see wind doesn't mean air particles aren't slamming against you when you feel a breeze. You can observe the EFFECTS of something to determine that something is there. You can even LABEL that unknown something as "dark matter" or "dark energy", and while the reality of the thing might be different later on, the EFFECTS of that unknown thing will be the same.
Your arguments are seriously awful.
OF COURSE THEY DON'T. That's why you need people that study this shit for a living, and design things that WORK based on them.
Yeah. You could educate yourself on these things, but you don't. You take this petulant stance of "there's no COMMON SENSE to it, therefore it's wrong" - which is just emotional reasoning and really rather stupid.
4Huma2printathome ago
You seem so angry bro. 😔😥😰
I have offended your delicate sensibilities with the truth and accept that this is my fault and I am truly sorry.
In retrospect, perhaps I was a little rude. You see, I get a little defensive because people are so fucking brainwashed that they refuse to think beyond what they were taught in school. They refuse to consider that the same secret societies that controlled our relgions, mass media and governments might just get a kick out of holding back our education and scientific development.
But obviously you're not like that though...you've looked at all of the pictures, research and videos I presented just for you.
Wait what, no you didn't? You refused because you know better right? And instead just garbled back all that fucking bullshit you were taught in school without answering any of my questions?
Let me be clear. I've never been to space either. I don't have any answers. I just have a lot of questions.
For example:
Why is the earth now pear shaped (and again this is not a little bulge according to NASA/NAZI/SATAN) when every single picture ever shown to us of the earth from space depicts the earth as perfectly round?
Why has the shape of North America drastically changed in size from picture to picture, year to year? Again according to NASA?
Why are there so many places that we shouldn't be able to see (because of the curvature of the earth) that we can see?
Why did I get to watch an entire space ship and crew explode into pieces on live tv back in the 80s only to find out that all these astronauts/actors miraculously survived?
How can you not see the absurdity in being fed a theory that is so far off base that it can't explain 95% of the observable universe and instead makes up an invisible type of matter that can only be conceptualized with insanely complex and convoluted equations --- that has never even been proved?!
This exotic "dark matter" and "dark energy"
Come on man. They're just fucking laughing at all of us. 😡
Do you not understand how fucking evil these people are who have been running our countries?!
They literally fuck and cannabalize children, but you don't think they'd lie to you about say, the very nature of reality?!
At least keep an open mind. That is all I'm asking!
The whole thing is absurd, i know, but then so is child eating politicians and sadly, we know how long that's been going on. (Since the beginning of time would be my guess)
Just YouTube NASA ISS fails and i truly believe you will get a sense at how ridiculous the world wide space program is.
I have more, but am simply exhausted from my one man holy war against the reddit admin. 😔
But smarty pants, if you'd be so kind, rather then insult me --- please educate me and answer those 5 questions.
Thanks so much and never forget, all of this aside. I think you are a smart cookie and I truly value your opinion.
Namaste my beloved new friend! 🤠
Crensch ago
Nice completely irrelevant bullshit line. Does this actually convince people?
Would it convince you?
You're conflating about 10 different things so far. You're so insanely off base with everything it's laughable.
... and somehow I'm the idiot here.
Most of them don't even have the proper context, and lack any sourcing for the claims. It is NOT my job to trawl through your inane babbling OP to find myself wrong, it's YOUR job to present information as it comes up.
I don't believe you.
I'm not your friend, and Islam will be wiped off the face of the earth soon enough.
Crensch ago
You seem stupid, more-so because you're wrong about this, but I'm certain you're building to a wonderful tone-fallacy.
No, you haven't.
Quantum physics isn't taught in school, unless you're talking about college, and even then it's mostly not taught.
I like how no new technology ever came from believing in a flat earth, while GPS came from understanding relativity.
I don't respond to hand-waving arguments. If you cannot explain it yourself, then you don't have any business expressing it to others. The sign of a weak mind, "Oh, you're wrong, here's a youtube video and 100 pages of text for you to trawl through to find out I'm right".
Pathetic argumentation tactic.
I didn't learn this shit in school, I studied it on my own time.
Let me be clear. You don't have answers, but somehow you have answers that negate my answers. You're an idiot.
Oh WOW. Really? THE ATMOSPHERE IS SPHERICAL, MORON. The land mass is not.
Are you unaware of how landmasses change dimensions when you're looking at them from different angles on a sphere?
What are you even talking about?
Again, instead of WoTing and linking in a rambling, incoherent post that nobody asked about, why don't you source each point as you make it in a discussion? Oh right, because then you'd be proven wrong and not be able to hide behind your unsupported assertions.
Yours explains much, much less. Guess I'll go with 5%.
4Huma2printathome ago
But why go with a theory that is so obviously wrong? I don't have the answers, I didn't make this space deception up...I just have a ton of very reasonable questions.
And I did provide a whole bunch of pictures and proof and when you've watched those videos or truly considered all of the things that are wrong with our current scientific model, perhaps we can have a more fruitful conversation.
Because you're replies aren't making any sense to me.
But as I said, I guess I'm just an idiot who can't understand why the shape and size of our continents would vary so much from picture to picture in all the cgi images NASA has given us?
Also since when is the earth pear shaped? If you watched that video I linked above at approx min 8:40 you would see that this isn't a little bulge we're talking about --- at least according to NASA.
And yes there are many, many places we can see from a distance, that should be impossible because of the apparent "curvature" of the earth --- this is kinda "flat earth theory" 101. I'll rustle up those videos when i have more time. Though you could save me the trouble and just research it yourself --- unless you're a pussy that is..
The reason why I have to write this way --- is because the whole world wide space deception is in fact --- absurd!
Please youtube ISS fails or ISS bloopers and you will see how fake it is. I'll return in a bit and add some links for your viewing pleasure. It's a pain in the ass to do so from a mobile.
Please forgive this inconvenience. Namaste for now dear friend. (You might hate my guts but I think you are a smart cookie! And I enjoy reading your opinions however woefully misguided they might be! 💩)
Crensch ago
Because it's not.
You don't have the answers, so nobody can have the answers? Get real. You're here pushing an alternative idea that has absolutely no basis in anything resembling reality. You also don't have reasonable questions - you have unreasonable demands on the science, and unreasonable acceptance of your pet feel-good idea.
Neither I, nor anyone, would ever trawl through your abortion of an OP to find your arguments for you. That's on YOU to provide at the proper time.
*your
No images provided, just the assertion that such a thing exists. Congratulations, you are the idiot you keep sarcastically calling yourself. Nobody believes you because you don't provide the evidence for your claims in the argument. You just post it all in one big diarrhea gish-gallop post that was probably written by someone else somewhere and it made you feel good to copy and paste it.
It's not. It's an oblate spheroid.
You didn't link anything to me that wasn't in your TL;DR OP.
No, you can't.
If you don't have time to follow through, piss off until you do. Delaying tactics like this aren't convincing in the least.
You could save me the trouble and actually learn about relativity and space --- unless you're a pussy that is..
See how that works? See how that absolutely fucking doesn't work? Yes, if you weren't sure up to this point, you are an imbecile. This is the level your brain works at - you find this kind of argument to be worthy of you typing it out and submitting it, whereas any rational, reasonable, intelligent human would be positively embarrassed to have written such a thing.
Repeating that over and over doesn't make it true. Another one of your brilliant plans that to anyone else would be a massive brain fart while under the influence of a buttload of alcohol.
Please youtube flat earth debunking and you will see how fake it is.
Could you stop hand-waving me to other shit already? That's how it works - just like that. What was accomplished here, retard? Nothing. Because nobody will ever do your work for you.
Then again, you said you were a woman, so it's not surprising that you wouldn't do any footwork for anything, and instead expect a man to do it.
Yeah, hindus aren't much better than muslims, so keep at it.
Thanks for the patronizing bullshit; I don't believe a word of it.
4Huma2printathome ago
listen buddy, I'm on my mobile --- some people have to go out and pretend to work. But all of the links are actually provided in the OP which you have so obviously not read or clicked on.
Do you need me to wipe your ass while I'm at it?
And You are the one arguing with me using a "never once been proven"mathematical thought experiment "the theory of relativity" and believe it or not, "Gravity" that in fact has no basis in reality.
And again, if you would have watched that video I posted in the OP you will see just a sampling of the many places that we shouldn't be able to see due to the curvature of the earth.
But instead you bitch at me and say I haven't provided proof --- which tells me that you can't possibly have looked at any of the proofs I provided in my OP?!
Instead your arguing and picking apart my very reasonable questions based on a ridiculous theory that can't even explain 95% of the known universe --- instead it has to make up an invisible type of matter (Dark Matter & Dark Energy) and I'm the fucking idiot?
And You better believe I'm being sarcastic.. but yeah .when you or one of the freemason, satanic muppets can solve the mathematical equation to gravity or relativity --- then I will at least consider your bullshit theory.
But until then, please please, explain to me when the fuck the earth became Pear shaped?! When every single cgi image ever shown to us of the earth from space has been a perfect ball. Again all the proof can be found in the videos I presented in the op.
Don't be lazy, that's how people get fat. Thanks though for taking the time to response. Some might call you a modern day saint! I wouldn't though, I think your being a dick. 💩
Crensch ago
Cool, all the links are actually provided by google, which you have so obviously not read or clicked on.
Do you need me to get your mother to wipe your ass while I'm at it?
Wow. "i have no answers" then "you are the one using blah blah not been proven" - which sounds exactly like every CT hack ever.
Some conspiracy theories are correct, but the ones that aren't all argue in the way you have been. I can use literally every argument you've presented against you, which means you are actually quite stupid, and believe absurdities that you cannot defend.
You cannot possibly have looked at google which I provided by typing www.google.com, or the entire Encyclopedia Britannica, where you can trawl through it and find this exact argument and your answers to it.
The fact is, you don't have the answers to these things, and you hope I believe you that they exist, but can't find them, or I DO find them, debunk them, and then you hand-wave to another facet of your diarrhea OP and I give up - like you did when you were convinced of this delusion.
/golfclap
4Huma2printathome ago
Hey buddy, so I posted a reply to you with lots of video evidence like you requested.
I have no doubt that you'll discount some of the videos right away, but it's pretty hard to ignore it all imho.
Use you're common sense when watching them please, if you still can't see that we've been lied to, well, thanks still for keeping an open mind.
Crensch ago
No, you didn't. If you had, I'd have gotten a notification of it.
So you're admitting you just posted a ton of bullshit somewhere? It certainly wasn't in a reply to me.
your*
But you said you don't have the answers? This is an answer. Why are you so shady about this shit?
4Huma2printathome ago
I am literally the opposite of shady --I hate deception- and most certainly did post a reply in this thread:
https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy/1770415/8708216/10#8708216
Have a great night!
Crensch ago
A reply to your own OP is not a reply to me, you shady fuck. You hate deception but it's taken you thins long to even begin to support your claims.
What the fuck is this shit? You have all the answers, the world is flat, but it can't be proven?
I'm not going to trudge through a huge TL;DR. I already said I wouldn't. So stop responding to me directly with shifty-fuck language and get after it point by point as we go. Just as with your stupid non-reply comment, I could just hand-wave you to some flat-earth debunking site with some rambling, irrelevant narrative or life's story with it.
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-the-flat-earth-theory-14-ways-the-flat-earth-theory-is-false.t7148/ http://www.space.news/2016-03-14-flat-earthers-debunked-how-we-know-the-earth-and-moon-are-spheres-not-discs.html https://www.distract101.com/2017/01/flat-earth-theory-debunked-complete-guide/ http://whatculture.com/science/9-most-popular-flat-earth-arguments-debunked http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Flat_Earth http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/flat-earth-is-not-the-answer/ https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-debunk-the-flat-earth-theories https://www.quora.com/I-recently-heard-this-flat-earth-argument-and-I-dont-know-how-to-respond-Read-Details-for-more http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/629355/Flat-Earth-News-Thousands-believe-madcap-theory-world-is-REALLY-a-dome-topped-disc https://www.metabunk.org/earth-curvature-refraction-experiments-debunking-flat-concave-earth.t6042/page-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth
There. We're nowhere near even, because my links at the very least aren't shrouded in your stupid wordsalad bullshit post, but it's a start. I'm sure you'll go through every site there, and every word, and find your answer.
Oh, you don't like that? That's what you're doing here, only worse.
Also, if you debunk everything, I can just handwave you to another link - let me know!
Or you could write what your actual beliefs are, what convinced you, and why you continue to believe them without putting them in something so long that a glance at it will cause people to not give a fuck. Nobody will give a fuck *because to debunk it they'd need more than an hour just to address your likely misconceptions or base-level fallacies.
4Huma2printathome ago
I'm sorry bro, I honestly don't even know how respond. I'm trying to explain that all of that stuff we were taught in school is basically fairy tales disguised as science and history, yet you keep using it as a defence, somehow thinking that it proves me wrong.
I was really hoping to share some delightful memes with the pedo-satanic elite on Twitter, but okay, for you, I will dig up a collection of ISS bloopers and fails, locations that you shouldn't be able to see because of the curvature of the earth, that NASA crew that blew up in the 80s who are now alive, the cgi images of the earth that show that North America keeps changing in size from picture to picture. And my favourite course when our perfectly round Spaceship Earth turned into a pear.
Again, all of that is nicely summarised in the video I linked, which is why, you know, I linked it. But you really seem fixated on this...so, I guess what can it hurt.
Maybe just maybe, one of these videos/pictures will wake you up. 🍺 Cheers and thanks for staying with this thread! If I can convince you, maybe there is hope for the world. 💩
Crensch ago
When you are challenging the currently accepted narrative and attempting to push one of your own, the onus is on you to put in the effort to change others' minds. Even you admit that it's the default, so why, exactly, do you think others will go out of their way to dig through a pile of shit to find what convinced you?
You admit above that I'll probably discount some right away - how do you know this? Is that not the same stuff that convinced you? If it's not, then why did you provide it?
All of which, even if true, do not necessarily mean the world is flat, but somehow merely discounting the accepted narrative, in your opinion, must lead one to a flat earth hypothesis.
How about you provide proof of the flat earth instead of trying to disprove the current narrative?
"THE SYSTEM IS WRONG SO MY PET-IDEA IS RIGHT" <--- That's not how it works.
You linked no video to me. You just keep hand-waving me to a wharrgarble wall of bullshit OP and claiming that you responded to me with sources for your claims. You did not.
You're really not doing yourself any favors by lying.
If I'm wrong, I'll happily admit to it, but your presence here has been nothing but an absurd, half-assed, dishonest, fallacy fest.
4Huma2printathome ago
You are indeed wrong and for some reason it is not showing up.
I'll post the comment link and please note this was posted 2 hours ago, then edited so that it was legible an hour later:
https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy/1770415/8708216/10#8708216
It took a while to write and I thought other skeptics might be interested and didn't want it to get buried in a comment reply. 😔
Crensch ago
Then I'm not wrong.
So you admit you didn't respond to me.
4Huma2printathome ago
Haha there is literally no pleasing you! I posted a reply telling you that the evidence was compiled in the main thread...all you had to do was click on "new" comments.
Thank God weed is almost legal in Canada or I will fucking lose my shit! Haha have a good night man, you make me laugh!
No hard feelings on my part and seriously have a good one!
Crensch ago
Moreover, with extremely long bullshit comments, you get to hide your failures in the massive amount of SHIT you post by merely not responding to the points that were shown to be absurd.
You'll just ignore that they happened, push the ones that weren't completely destroyed, then bring up the destroyed ones again later, since they were lost in the huge mass of other bullshit before. Again, if you cannot stop using the gish-gallop, you will never convince someone of even average intelligence.
4Huma2printathome ago
Listen man, I have tried very hard to present to you a ton of independent video evidence from many different sources.
I can't force you to take your head out of the sand --- but I have sincerely tried.
I wish you all the best, but am not going to waste my time anymore responding to your insults when you haven't bothered to look at any of the proofs.
Also, if you want to talk about shady, wtf is up with you quoting small pieces of my posts, so that everything is taken out of context. Not only that but you haven't answered those 5 questions I asked you earlier. The only deceptive person here is you.
Looking forward to your next insult, because you can't be bothered to look at the videos. 😔
We're on a conspiracy site, so I'd think you'd be a little suspicious already of our satanic elite, but nope, you'd rather ignore what your eyes can see and instead fall back on the education you were provided for by, wait who's that? Oh yes the satanic elite.
This is my last reply, unless your next insult is really funny and I can't help myself. This is my promise to you!
Until then Namaste my beloved moon bean star child! 😈
Crensch ago
No you didn't. You did exactly what I have admonished you for this entire time, and you've been dishonest. What you've tried to do is muddy the waters because you don't want a clear exchange of ideas.
Keep telling yourself that.
Of course you're not, because if we went point by point, and I proved you wrong, I could hold your feet to the fire and you couldn't move the goalposts, which is another tactic you were setting me up for.
How is taking each sentence as a thought "out of context"? I'm responding point by point to you, and the fact that you have an issue with it just proves that even you realize you cannot win where each idea is examined and discussed. How ironic that you think of going point-by-point is deceptive; you really are fucked in the head.
I've given you the formula to communicate with me this entire time, and because I won't trawl through your huge load of bullshit to find some diamond of information you seem to think exists there, somehow I'm the bad guy.
This is more dishonesty on your part. Somehow my not blindly accepting your ideas, and walking into a discussion that would never have produced anything worthwhile since it was a fallacy setup on your part, means that I trust the global elite.
How fucking sad it must be to have a mind so broken that you must conclude that someone not agreeing with you, and falling into your fallacy-traps trusts the global elite.
Good. If you had something worthwhile to say, you'd respond in a way that allows clear communication, instead of dumping a ton of bullshit on my head, and having a truckload more ready for when I clean it all up.
Gee, I wish I could be as clever as you with all your enlightened hindu horoscope bantz.
4Huma2printathome ago
I truly wish you were as well. This is exhausting.
All you have to do is literally look at pictures and watch videos, how much clearer can I be?
There's no need for you to read any of my text if you don't want to (but you never know, maybe someone else might be interested) all you had to do was just click on the links. Hence the TL:DR warning I put in bold near the beginning of my comment. Are you being deliberately dense just to fuck with me? I can never tell, because some people are really stupid.
Crensch ago
All you have to do is literally look at everything I linked you, how much clearer can I be?
1) Then why put all the text there
2) All you have to do is click on the links I provided for you.
You have the opportunity to have a discussion. Instead you make a huge reply to yourself that you think others should read because... ?
You have the opportunity for a discussion, and instead of having one, you hand-wave me to an mass of shit that I'm somehow supposed to waste my time on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-waving
Are you?
Remember how you kept saying that you thought I was smart/intelligent? Want to know how I know you're full of shit?
You can either argue honestly, and in a reasonable format, or you can hand-wave me to a mass of crap, which is just as effective and useful as me hand-waving you to google.
Your choice.
4Huma2printathome ago
Okay as clearly and concisely as I can.
These are the serious questions I have with the current model of space/shape of the earth and these are the video proofs and pictures that support my question/claims.
So fucking help me God if you are going to complain now that I've provided you with too many video proofs?
Please know, I'm not even going to respond if you insult me back right away, because just like every other time, it will prove to me that you are just not willing to look at anything that might challenge your beliefs.
Btw, I guess my sense of humor is a little too nuts for you, I'm not trying to push new age bullshit on to you. I'm making fun of it.
1. Evidence of places in the world that we shouldn't be able to see, due to the curvature of the earth, but do in fact see:
Flat Earth Experiment PROVES Zero Curvature Exists! https://youtu.be/HdysJIt4I18
Flat Earth "Where's The Curvature?" 90 Miles of Eyre and FLAT https://youtu.be/6w9i9I39gzo
Flat Earth: Another video of far away places we shouldn't see. https://youtu.be/6acYLMK7fFU
200 Proofs that the Earth is Flat: https://youtu.be/h5i_iDyUTCg
No Curvature on the Flat Earth https://youtu.be/fcteYfOMgJg
Dubai's FLAT EARTH from the World's Tallest Building! https://youtu.be/q7nySEW7v9U
Why I believe the NASA space program is fake:
2. NASA ISS Bloopers and Fails:
NASA - A COMPILATION OF LIES AND DECEIT. https://youtu.be/CzyPN8-AbJQ
SPACE BLOOPERS: Papere Spaziali https://youtu.be/WjeazbLI3dU
NASA Fail Compilation https://youtu.be/msY3xc8pVLE
ISS Facebook Live Feed HOAX https://youtu.be/C5SQxjO4HGE
3. Photos of the earth shot from space, showing that North America has changed in size, year to year, CGI image to CGI image:
https://goo.gl/images/1928oY
https://goo.gl/images/dXhQyR
https://goo.gl/images/Zbl5XY
https://goo.gl/images/RK0z9Y
Please note: These are all images provided to us by NASA
4. That space crew that I watched blow up into pieces on live tv in the 80s. (And the astronauts/actors that miraculously survived despite you know, being reported as being blown up in pieces)
The 1986 Challenger Crew Conspiracy Theory https://youtu.be/q4t4fjYkWc8
Shocking Facts You Never Knew About The Challenger Shuttle Disaster https://youtu.be/VdHGqX0nuPQ
5. And here is what our weather patterns would look like on flat earth:
I linked this one in the OP because it was one of the first flat earth videos that caught my attention just because all of a sudden our weather patterns make sense:
Flat Earth weather map https://youtu.be/wqKTLzUKqDc
The audio is a little distorted though, so this one is maybe a little less annoying:
https://youtu.be/Bowact9uR54
6. And here are some of the questions I had and some miscellaneous interesting stuff:
Sun, Moon, and Stars Prove the Flat Earth https://youtu.be/P5LzJrVKmBk
Gravity is Just Density https://youtu.be/Gg2URbkJo18
German ENGINEER/ PILOT Confirms FLAT EARTH & says GPS Satellites Don't Exist https://youtu.be/qKdZQA9tA3E
Surveyors, Engineers, Pilots and Sailors Expose the Flat Earth https://youtu.be/qcgxBTrmIhU
Flat Earth Pilot. No Curve! March 2017. Part 4 of a Series https://youtu.be/zrmcEAamEZA
When someone ask you "what's the motive for hiding flat earth?"...Link to this video https://youtu.be/XifF8DMG-RE
Finally, Michael Tellinger's Flat Earth disclosure, Epic! https://youtu.be/xranj1dXV2c
NASA Fakery False flags and Black holes https://youtu.be/pIkQRginXws
Super High Altitude Ballon Shows Sun and Flat Horizon https://youtu.be/eSEGGqGnAfs
Flat Earth - Balloon Almost Touches The Sun | Sun 149.600.000 km Away ? 100% Impossible Altitude !! https://youtu.be/CepnVUEB0-k
Flat Earth Presentation On Macedonian Late Night Talk Show https://youtu.be/TMwys1qft5U
Crensch ago
Ok, you're still fucking awful at this, but let me give it a go to the relevant shit, and maybe even some of the non-relevant shit.
1)
First video - your idiot video poster either doesn't know how to do math, isn't very good at it, or is expressly attempting to trick you.
If a 5'4"-ish person were standing on, say, the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, and let's just say their eyes are at an even 5' from the ground, they could see a flashlight laying on the ground at 2.75 miles away.
TWO POINT SEVEN FIVE MILES AWAY. That SKYLINE is a mere 30 MILES AWAY. OF COURSE they could see it. Your video uploader is full of shit.
The Earth has a radius of ~3965 miles. Using Pythagorean theroem, that calculates to an average curvature of the earth of 7.98 inches per mile. INCHES. PER. MILE. That skyline is 30 miles away, but somehow we're not supposed to see it? ABSURD.
And with that, your first point dies, because you presented that as evidence and it is utterly, horribly, unimaginably, wrong.
2)
Of the first two videos, exactly zero source their video content to something official, so finding the original footage to compare it to some random-fuck youtuber is not really feasible. Also, many of the focused-on parts are quite absurd, like a "magic orange" ... how insanely inane that is, and not at all convincing, but this poster took the time to post it. So all I have to go on is this uploaded video of someone that thinks a "magic" orange is convincing.
Like I said, you're really, REALLY bad at this - and so are the people you're linking to.
3)
You do know that geostationary orbit means that the pictures a satellite takes are directly from only one location above the earth, right? Did you also know that landmasses look quite different depending on which direction you're looking at it from? This argument must start from "the world is flat and looks the same everywhere, therefore these landmasses should look the same at every angle", which is an unconvincing and dishonest way to present support for your argument.
https://www.webglearth.com/#ll=27.82418,-98.89529;alt=17004646
Play around with it. Also, the one that shows the US being supermassive when above ~Guatemala I couldn't find a source for, GO FIGURE.
4)
Those people look similar to the crewmembers, congratulations. Not convincing.
They present these photos, then ask "why didn't this information come out for 30 years?". Then "If there was an explosion that day, there MUST have been crew on board that perished."
Really? REALLY? There MUST have been crew on board? Is that the kind of reasoning that is sound to you? These people KILL any credibility with this kind of bullshit.
5)
I don't give a flying fuck what you posted in OP.
First link: Wow, they "make a lot of sense", to an uneducated buffoon on youtube? "Everything seems to just... flow a lot neater and make a lot more sense". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And that's the one you liked enough to mention how you put it in OP?
6)
Sun rays: http://www.atoptics.co.uk/atoptics/ray1.htm
Divergence perspective illusion. /golfclap
Gravity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_buoyancy
Unreal. Really? You find neutral buoyancy to somehow be an argument against GRAVITY?
And with that, you have shown yourself to be wholly ignorant of reality. I bid you adieu.
AnotherRedditRefugee ago
Legendary.
Crensch ago
See, this is dishonest. I've told you at least three times that you can start here by making a point and supporting it, but all you do is gishgallop another long comment. If that's all you're capable of, then yeah, you won't ever get through to me... or probably anyone else for that matter.
Why do you keep putting energy into this irrelevant, sad excuse for banter, but you won't have a point-by-point here, or apparently even have the cods to not lie about either not having the answers, or having the answers? You know, only one of those can be true.
Seriously, stop acting like every second-hand know-it-all I've ever met. The only thing you idiots seem to have going for you is the energy to put into useless crap.
Tell me what you believe, why, and what convinced you. Don't do this in a novel nobody will read, it isn't that complicated and everyone knows it. Here, let me help you out.
1) "I believe X - Here's a brief explanation why, and here's 1 to 2 relevant links on it."
2) "I believe Y - Here's a brief explanation why, and here's 1 to 2 relevant links on it."
3) "That should be enough for now, there's more, but we'll get there when we get there."
The above is more or less the only way anyone is going to take you seriously, as posting a bunch of bullshit all at once is not only bad form on the internet, but if you're espousing a fringe belief, you are signalling to those that do not share your beliefs that you have no intention of arguing honestly, but instead will pile on bullshit that will cost them more time and effort than they're willing to spend.
You can spew enough bullshit in 5 minutes to cause someone wanting to correct you an hour's worth of work. Nobody, nobody is going to willingly step into that.