The #Pizzagate Wiki finds evidence of confirmed conspiracy: Osama bin Laden wasn't buried at sea (Conspiracy)

submitted ago by RebelSkum

Posted yesterday to Reddit: https://archive.is/KxaBU

All information can be found compiled with lists of associations on The #Pizzagate Wiki's Stratfor page, but their elite seemed to have insider knowledge of the event according to releases on Wikileaks: http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor

Here are the emails in question, the first being perhaps the most damning:

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Re:_OBL.27s_corpse

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_OBL

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_Body_bound_for_Dover.2C_DE_on_CIA_plane

Direct links to archive.is and original versions of the relevant Wikileaks emails:

https://archive.is/Az8Ii / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097638_re-obl-s-corpse-.html

https://archive.is/bZtjD / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/1752178_re-obl-s-corpse-.html

https://archive.is/SvoDU / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1094322_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/tUJff / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1092275_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/5j3QA / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097856_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/MO7fm / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/11/1102718_-alpha-body-bound-for-dover-de-on-cia-plane-.html

Updates:

All email screenshots on Imgur: http://imgur.com/a/fcSzR

From http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Personnel_and_relevant_emails_by_hierarchy :

George Friedman, founder and CEO

Fred Burton is Vice President for Intelligence, and sent most of the information on "OBL"

I made a timeframe of Fred Burton's communications for those who seem unsure of his confidence in the situation:

2011-05-02 05:26:15 Fred Burton: "Reportedly, we took the body with us. Thank goodness."

2011-05-02 05:33:15 Fred Burton: "We told the Pakis after we killed him. But, will praise GOP publicly. All spin and bullshit."

2011-05-02 05:47:25 Fred Burton: "Raymond Davis operation was related to the case. CIA unilateral source in Paki worked without the Pakis knowledge."

2011-05-02 05:51:12 Fred Burton: "Than onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda."

2011-05-02 13:36:41 Fred Burton: "Body is Dover bound, should be here by now. "

I should mention that Osama bin Laden was "officially" killed around 0100 PKT on May 2, which would have been 1400 on May 1 in Austin (where Stratfor is based). These timestamps suggest this chain of emails uses PKT (Pakistan Standard Time) or some nearby timezone, possibly hinting at where Stratfor was operating that day as the emails were sent from BlackBerry phones.

Bonus reading:

Raymond Allen Davis incident: http://pizzagate.wiki/CIA_(Central_Intelligence_Agency)#Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident

Two sister companies also involved in illegal, dishonest, and suspicious intelligence activity:

http://pizzagate.wiki/Deagel

http://pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp

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oedipusaurus_rex ago

I was in the CIC for the USS Enterprise when Bin Laden was buried at sea. He was buried at sea.

RebelSkum ago

No offense, but you witnessed a burial at sea. Not necessarily of Osama bin Laden unless you're willing to commit to that statement.

It goes without saying that George Friedman and Fred Burton have way higher pay-grades and clearances than we will ever have.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

No offense, but you don't know what the hell you're talking about. The military is not the civilian world. We look out for each other, and an operation that involves that many people being faked would get around the ship. At the very least it would be a rumor, and that's being incredibly fucking generous.

immatureusername ago

Hey man. That carrier thingy is fucking huge okay. I did get a tour on one once and holy shit its fucking massive. It would be a LOT easier to fake some shit like that on a carrier than youre willing to admit. Did you or did you not see his body? Were you a part of the packaging so to say? Were you just a stand in? Were you told to fucking be there? Faked or not, it would be easy to fucking do on a carrier. Open your mind and go research who the real bin laden is then tell me what you think. Btw he died in 01.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

That carrier thingy is called a ship. Once you've spent the better part of a year on one come back and tell me how big it is.

Like I said in my previous post I was in the CIC. When you watch a movie that involves Navy ships the CIC is the room with all the radars screens and blue lights. It's the brain center for the ship.

My point is that you don't understand the mindset of military people (obviously) or how fast scuttlebutt travels across a ship (again, obviously).

I get that no matter what I say you aren't going to change your mind about it. You've already decided that Osama bin Laden is still alive, along with Elvis and Robo-Hitler. Nothing I'm going to say is going to change that. I get that. I'm just calling bullshit.

immatureusername ago

Actually i was saying hes been dead for a long time. Since like 2001. Also i like your scuttlebutt. I can tell you that the Abraham Lincoln has a crew of 3000+ when the aircrew is not aboard, i can tell you that we were not in the south pacific during the filming of the movie stealth, (involving the navy) and i can also tell you that dragging bodies out of the indian ocean after the tsunami of dec, 24th 2004 really fucking sucked. :) we dont look out for each other nearly as much as you say, i understand perfectly. I dont need to go blabbing about all my expertise in some field of study to make my point. Sure the cic, good for you. Did you see his body? Were you or were you not a part of the burrial? Regardless of wether or not you were there, all you probably were was just a pissant po3 or less. What proof do you have that it was a legitamate burrial of said person? None.
http://humansarefree.com/2011/05/proof-that-osama-bin-laden-was-cia-and.html?m=0

Here have some information that i find interesting

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I'm not saying that people have each other's back. I'm saying that when you have 5000+ people stuck on a ship with each other for 9 months, it's impossible to keep secrets. There wasn't even a rumor that that's not what went down.

I was PO2 so not exactly a pissant, all of which is ignoring the fact that rank has little to do with quality of work.

No, I wasn't part of the burial detail. I wasn't even on the ship where he was buried. Where I was was in the room where all the radio traffic and tactical information was being fed, sitting two seats to the right of the TAO.

immatureusername ago

So you see if they really wanted to keep it low down, then they could. I did my time on a carrier as a pissant airman.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I did mine as a well connected petty officer. There would have been at least a rumor if something were going on. The more people in on a secret, the less likely it will be kept. This is particularly true with something that stands antithetical to all the honor, courage, commitment bullshit that they never stop beating into people. Someone would have been disgruntled enough to complain, and that's the kind of rumor that would spread like fire through the strike group.

Given that no one was saying the Bin Laden assassination was faked until years later and no one there is corroborating you, you guys are full of shit.

Konran ago

The more people in on a secret, the less likely it will be kept.

Exactly! So maybe the only people who knew it wasn't Bin Laden was a Navy Admiral (maybe), CIA higher ups and the POTUS and his cronies?

oedipusaurus_rex ago

The Chaps would have to know about it. The seal team that performed the raid would have to know about it (after all, if you were involved in a raid that didn't happen you would know about it as soon as it started showing up on the news). We were definitely performing operations in the area that day, and we did fly people out of a military operation in a country that we weren't at war with, and didn't have permission to be in (which in any situation besides the one that occurred, would be a declaration of war). The only way that war wouldn't be declared is if we caught Pakistan performing an action that would have been a declaration of war... Something like harboring a terrorist who killed thousands of Americans.

You guys are wrong on this one. You've been right a lot lately, but that's more by accident than anything. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The more people in on a secret, the less likely it's to be kept ,as is the case with Snowden. Eventually someone comes forward, regardless of the risks... particularly with Americans, and even more so with the military.