The #Pizzagate Wiki finds evidence of confirmed conspiracy: Osama bin Laden wasn't buried at sea (Conspiracy)

submitted ago by RebelSkum

Posted yesterday to Reddit: https://archive.is/KxaBU

All information can be found compiled with lists of associations on The #Pizzagate Wiki's Stratfor page, but their elite seemed to have insider knowledge of the event according to releases on Wikileaks: http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor

Here are the emails in question, the first being perhaps the most damning:

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Re:_OBL.27s_corpse

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_OBL

http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#.28alpha.29_Body_bound_for_Dover.2C_DE_on_CIA_plane

Direct links to archive.is and original versions of the relevant Wikileaks emails:

https://archive.is/Az8Ii / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097638_re-obl-s-corpse-.html

https://archive.is/bZtjD / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/1752178_re-obl-s-corpse-.html

https://archive.is/SvoDU / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1094322_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/tUJff / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1092275_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/5j3QA / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/10/1097856_-alpha-obl-.html

https://archive.is/MO7fm / https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/11/1102718_-alpha-body-bound-for-dover-de-on-cia-plane-.html

Updates:

All email screenshots on Imgur: http://imgur.com/a/fcSzR

From http://pizzagate.wiki/Stratfor#Personnel_and_relevant_emails_by_hierarchy :

George Friedman, founder and CEO

Fred Burton is Vice President for Intelligence, and sent most of the information on "OBL"

I made a timeframe of Fred Burton's communications for those who seem unsure of his confidence in the situation:

2011-05-02 05:26:15 Fred Burton: "Reportedly, we took the body with us. Thank goodness."

2011-05-02 05:33:15 Fred Burton: "We told the Pakis after we killed him. But, will praise GOP publicly. All spin and bullshit."

2011-05-02 05:47:25 Fred Burton: "Raymond Davis operation was related to the case. CIA unilateral source in Paki worked without the Pakis knowledge."

2011-05-02 05:51:12 Fred Burton: "Than onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda."

2011-05-02 13:36:41 Fred Burton: "Body is Dover bound, should be here by now. "

I should mention that Osama bin Laden was "officially" killed around 0100 PKT on May 2, which would have been 1400 on May 1 in Austin (where Stratfor is based). These timestamps suggest this chain of emails uses PKT (Pakistan Standard Time) or some nearby timezone, possibly hinting at where Stratfor was operating that day as the emails were sent from BlackBerry phones.

Bonus reading:

Raymond Allen Davis incident: http://pizzagate.wiki/CIA_(Central_Intelligence_Agency)#Raymond_Allen_Davis_incident

Two sister companies also involved in illegal, dishonest, and suspicious intelligence activity:

http://pizzagate.wiki/Deagel

http://pizzagate.wiki/DynCorp

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oedipusaurus_rex ago

I was in the CIC for the USS Enterprise when Bin Laden was buried at sea. He was buried at sea.

RebelSkum ago

No offense, but you witnessed a burial at sea. Not necessarily of Osama bin Laden unless you're willing to commit to that statement.

It goes without saying that George Friedman and Fred Burton have way higher pay-grades and clearances than we will ever have.

undertheshills ago

Bullshit. Did they have a wake?

missyshimmy ago

What does a wake have to do with anything? Not trying to start a fight just wondering what you mean by that.

undertheshills ago

The guy is saying he was on the ship that Osama was jettisoned from. And that word would "get around the ship" if it wasnt Osama that was dropped. My point is how would anyone know. The seals would have brought Osama out in a bag. It would have been taken to the morgue or whatever. Unless they had a "wake" or open casket viewing less than 10 people would have seen the body, before the casket was tossed overboard. The notion that it had to be Osama's body because you cant keep a secret on a ship is stupid.

piratse ago

Except Friedman is speculating, not confirming.

samhara ago

He didn't witness anything. "he" is lying.

samhara ago

he'a a liar. Where's his proof?

oedipusaurus_rex ago

No offense, but you don't know what the hell you're talking about. The military is not the civilian world. We look out for each other, and an operation that involves that many people being faked would get around the ship. At the very least it would be a rumor, and that's being incredibly fucking generous.

samhara ago

Total bullshit. What ship? Can you even prove you were on "the [alleged] ship" .. .?

oedipusaurus_rex ago

bitch

oedipusaurus_rex ago

You know what... I can. I'm going to go out of my way asshole.

I'll be back within 15 minutes with proof.

immatureusername ago

Hey man. That carrier thingy is fucking huge okay. I did get a tour on one once and holy shit its fucking massive. It would be a LOT easier to fake some shit like that on a carrier than youre willing to admit. Did you or did you not see his body? Were you a part of the packaging so to say? Were you just a stand in? Were you told to fucking be there? Faked or not, it would be easy to fucking do on a carrier. Open your mind and go research who the real bin laden is then tell me what you think. Btw he died in 01.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

Also, I said I was on the Enterprise. He was interred on the Carl Vinson.

Nadakai ago

Proof or gtfo

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I notice you have nothing else to say.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

If you need help samhara asked for the same.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

It's already been posted in this thread... so I guess you can read or GTFO.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

That carrier thingy is called a ship. Once you've spent the better part of a year on one come back and tell me how big it is.

Like I said in my previous post I was in the CIC. When you watch a movie that involves Navy ships the CIC is the room with all the radars screens and blue lights. It's the brain center for the ship.

My point is that you don't understand the mindset of military people (obviously) or how fast scuttlebutt travels across a ship (again, obviously).

I get that no matter what I say you aren't going to change your mind about it. You've already decided that Osama bin Laden is still alive, along with Elvis and Robo-Hitler. Nothing I'm going to say is going to change that. I get that. I'm just calling bullshit.

immatureusername ago

Actually i was saying hes been dead for a long time. Since like 2001. Also i like your scuttlebutt. I can tell you that the Abraham Lincoln has a crew of 3000+ when the aircrew is not aboard, i can tell you that we were not in the south pacific during the filming of the movie stealth, (involving the navy) and i can also tell you that dragging bodies out of the indian ocean after the tsunami of dec, 24th 2004 really fucking sucked. :) we dont look out for each other nearly as much as you say, i understand perfectly. I dont need to go blabbing about all my expertise in some field of study to make my point. Sure the cic, good for you. Did you see his body? Were you or were you not a part of the burrial? Regardless of wether or not you were there, all you probably were was just a pissant po3 or less. What proof do you have that it was a legitamate burrial of said person? None.
http://humansarefree.com/2011/05/proof-that-osama-bin-laden-was-cia-and.html?m=0

Here have some information that i find interesting

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I'm not saying that people have each other's back. I'm saying that when you have 5000+ people stuck on a ship with each other for 9 months, it's impossible to keep secrets. There wasn't even a rumor that that's not what went down.

I was PO2 so not exactly a pissant, all of which is ignoring the fact that rank has little to do with quality of work.

No, I wasn't part of the burial detail. I wasn't even on the ship where he was buried. Where I was was in the room where all the radio traffic and tactical information was being fed, sitting two seats to the right of the TAO.

immatureusername ago

So you see if they really wanted to keep it low down, then they could. I did my time on a carrier as a pissant airman.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I did mine as a well connected petty officer. There would have been at least a rumor if something were going on. The more people in on a secret, the less likely it will be kept. This is particularly true with something that stands antithetical to all the honor, courage, commitment bullshit that they never stop beating into people. Someone would have been disgruntled enough to complain, and that's the kind of rumor that would spread like fire through the strike group.

Given that no one was saying the Bin Laden assassination was faked until years later and no one there is corroborating you, you guys are full of shit.

Konran ago

The more people in on a secret, the less likely it will be kept.

Exactly! So maybe the only people who knew it wasn't Bin Laden was a Navy Admiral (maybe), CIA higher ups and the POTUS and his cronies?

oedipusaurus_rex ago

The Chaps would have to know about it. The seal team that performed the raid would have to know about it (after all, if you were involved in a raid that didn't happen you would know about it as soon as it started showing up on the news). We were definitely performing operations in the area that day, and we did fly people out of a military operation in a country that we weren't at war with, and didn't have permission to be in (which in any situation besides the one that occurred, would be a declaration of war). The only way that war wouldn't be declared is if we caught Pakistan performing an action that would have been a declaration of war... Something like harboring a terrorist who killed thousands of Americans.

You guys are wrong on this one. You've been right a lot lately, but that's more by accident than anything. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The more people in on a secret, the less likely it's to be kept ,as is the case with Snowden. Eventually someone comes forward, regardless of the risks... particularly with Americans, and even more so with the military.

EngelbertHumperdinck ago

I was saying it was fake the very moment I heard about it and saw the staged 'situation room' photo. Ever since the Rita Katz videos with a different actor playing the role of OBL, it was obvious that he was just an Emanuel Goldstein.

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the US government's official story of 9/11 is the truth?

edit: spelling

oedipusaurus_rex ago

If the Bin Laden raid was faked, then why were we able to break international law and invade Pakistan without them complaining about it?

What kind of dirt do we have on them that we can invade their country with a military force and have them keep quite about it?

oedipusaurus_rex ago

And they had a hell of a case in international court assuming that Bin Laden wasn't there.

The US performed a violent military action on a nuclear power. Under international law this is an invasion. Invasions are an act of war. The United States of America invaded a nuclear power. I don't know how many ways I can say this and get it through. If Russia flew a helicopter into queens, broke into someone's house and killed him and his family what do you think would happen?

EngelbertHumperdinck ago

I get it. The US government is criminal and not to be trusted.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I don't think you do. Otherwise you would be conceding the point.

EngelbertHumperdinck ago

Why? You are claiming the official story is true —the same official story promoted by the criminal liars in government.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

I'm saying that I believe most of the official story. I'm saying that most of the shit that I've seen in conspiracy theorist circles is people ignores anything that doesn't agree with their pet hypothesis and then running full steam into confirmation bias.

I'm willing to change my mind on this, but anything I'm going to believe is going to have to match what I witnessed.

EngelbertHumperdinck ago

Not that I want to drag this out any longer, but I'm still curious what you think about 9/11.

oedipusaurus_rex ago

Well, it helps if you ask.

I think that Osama Bin Laden organized an attack on the WTC and the Pentagon. I think that GWB and his inner circle knew about the attack, and allowed it to happen (similar to what happened with Pearl Harbor). I don't think that Bush and Co thought that the two towers would collapse, I think that they allowed it to happen because it got them into a war in the area, and that's kinda been our schtick since at least Bush Sr. I don't think explosives were planted in the buildings.

Steel doesn't melt at the temp that jet fuels burns at atmospheric pressure. It does become more plastic though. The steel undergoes plastic deformation until it reaches it's point for it's specific pressure/temp. Once the steel fails, it no longer provides the support for the building, the walls collapse, and the floors start pancaking.

There was plenty of motivation for Bush and Co. to do a false flag attack. There were people willing to attack us. It's easier for Bush and Co. to let one through, and there far less risk of getting caught doing this. It's harder to prevent all the possible attacks, then make your own force to attack, and successfully carry out the attack without getting caught/getting the whistle blown on you.

Hope that helps.

EngelbertHumperdinck ago

Ah, I see.

BTW, I asked you about this before. Scroll up a little bit.