•People who committed no crimes were rounded up, and thrown into prisons throughout Europe.
Many of these prisons were nothing more than slave labor camps for the socialist nazi regime to build their war machine. The socialist nazi regime needed to win wars in order for the socialist global utopia they were building to not run out of other peoples money to spend.
•The slave labor prisons were horrible. The lives of the slaves were meaningless to the guards selected to run the prisons. Prisoner/slave abuse was rampant. Diseases frequently killed off countless* numbers of people, men, women, and children.
*Deaths caused by diseases (primarily Typhus) from nazi captivity inside the slave camps are directly the fault of the nazis who put them there. Most all nazis object to this reality however, to deflect away from Holocaust reality. But the fact is, their blood is on the hands of the Nazis.
•The number for how many deaths were caused by the Nazi slave camps will never be known. 6 million, 3 million, 600,000...all irrelevant. Suffice to say that lots of people suffered, and died at the hands of the Nazis, and their slave camps.
•Slaves were used for human experiments of unimaginable horrors.
However one wants to look at it, there was a very real holocaust. The hair splitting details of numbers of dead, and methods of death are all irrelevant to the known facts.
It wasn't fake... many here say it was but it's driven by politics more than reality. Was the number 6 million ? - doubt it, but it did happen. The jews carry on like they were the only ones though, the nazis did that shit to romani as well, heaps of others suffered too.
The evidence for the camps is overwhelming. The evidence against is simply picking little holes in things and saying "AHA!" and making huge leaps to all kinds of ridiculous shit. Anyway - good luck, I am sure someone will post a page or 2 of denial shit to keep you busy.
I'm open to both possibilities. As it stands, I believe it happened but agree with you that jews act as though they were the only ones that suffered. Unless someone here has compelling evidence then my mind will remain unchanged.
Rather not get into circular arguments though. I know where this goes. You cannot prove something to people who don't want to change their minds. It's like showing flat earthers video of the earth from space - it will only be met with 'that's conspiracy by X to make Y believe in Z' ..
This is not true. Zyklon B was used as a pesticide and delousing agent by multiple countries. The amount needed would have left substantial residue on the walls/ceilings, and without ventilation in the “gas chambers” the rooms would have needed days before they could clear the bodies. https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p319_Faurisson.html
Read about Eisenhower’s death camps though, that’s an infuriating massacre.
You're making claims against arguments that no one makes. No one says the camps didn't exist, or that some Jews didn't die. There is no evidence for extermination of the Jews. All the work camps that the allies captured were originally thought to be death camps as well. Only the camps captured by the Soviets were claimed to be death camps (perhaps to deflect from their own genocides), and they weren't even allowed to be inspected by the west until decades later.
I encourage OP to look at videos of the "gas chamber" on youtube, and research the history of the modifications to the buildings. Yes, the wooden door thing is not a meme. There's a ton more I can say, but there are resources literally everywhere on this site, and you really have to dig very deep into the facts themselves (not just the surface level stuff that they want you to see) and make up your own mind.
pretending to be moderate is not the same as "not being told what to think by anyone". You're only thinking about how to be moderate. Open up and drink in the truth. Don't moderate your consumption of truth. Let go. You aren't in control.
There is no pretending to be anything. There are plenty of cases where truth is clear and unambiguous. Denying shit because it disagrees with your political beliefs is ridiculous. I don't give a shit about being moderate, only reasonable and as unbias as I can be. If there is credible real information, data, evidence... then I don't give a shit what my favourite politician or religious group says about it.. reality is.. whether you like it or not.
Do you think people were "nazis" then they denied the holocaust or the other way around? Clearly no one here has a political party representing them nor a politician, save trump if we're lucky and he puts an end to Israelis bullshit once and for all.
Back to the issue at hand. Look at the evidence for 6 million Jews being genocided in Europe during WWII and tell me what the facts say. No one denies the holocaust to fall in line with their political party or leaders. It would be impossible since the NSDAP doesn't fucking exist.
The 6 million number is arbitrary - they have no idea exactly how many people were killed. As I said earlier, it wasn't all jews either, they just like to make out like it was only them who suffered. They're just using it as a political and social cudgel to silence any opposition to their ruling of the worlds economic institutions. When people start denying events even took place it just makes them look stupid - and invalidates anything else they might claim about the jews.
I wonder if the whole denial thing wasn't started by them to take away credibility from their detractors.
If it takes a modern crematorium 2-3 hours to cremate a body how many ovens would you need running 24/7 to cremate 6 million over the course of 3 years considering most of the supposed death camps didn't really get built or ramp up until after 41.
less than 100 in total. The claim of cremation pits however has never been verified as no remains or evidence of their existence has been found after extensive searching in the areas where they were claimed to be used. Additionally several people have proven that they could not function in the way the cremation pits have been described and would have not been able to burn the masses of bodies claimed completely instead leaving behind large numbers of partially burned corpses and fragments.
Moorgarten ago
google it!
Gaddafi_Was_Right ago
it's obvious you are a schlomo.
herrr durrr...can someone red pill me on the holocaust. do your own research faggot
mohammed_was_a_fag ago
NEATO FELLA
crazy_eyes ago
wooden door that opened in to the gas chamber with glass window
tom9152 ago
When I heard it is illegal to deny, I knew it was a lie. Then math. Also any story used to get money from you is probably a lie.
u_r_wat_u_eat ago
Any "conspiracy" that becomes illegal to question or gets nationally discredited on MSM instantly throws up a red flag.
Pizzagate, Flat Earth, Holocaust, Chemtrails etc
tom9152 ago
Most of illegal speech is true. Julian Assange, calling a trans a man, Earth orbits the sun, etc.
numscul54 ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk&bpctr=1559190983
Goys-R-Us ago
codoh.com
YugeDick ago
Here's a nice old thread with shit tons of resources.
https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2869589
VOALTRON ago
•People who committed no crimes were rounded up, and thrown into prisons throughout Europe.
Many of these prisons were nothing more than slave labor camps for the socialist nazi regime to build their war machine. The socialist nazi regime needed to win wars in order for the socialist global utopia they were building to not run out of other peoples money to spend.
•The slave labor prisons were horrible. The lives of the slaves were meaningless to the guards selected to run the prisons. Prisoner/slave abuse was rampant. Diseases frequently killed off countless* numbers of people, men, women, and children.
*Deaths caused by diseases (primarily Typhus) from nazi captivity inside the slave camps are directly the fault of the nazis who put them there. Most all nazis object to this reality however, to deflect away from Holocaust reality. But the fact is, their blood is on the hands of the Nazis.
•The number for how many deaths were caused by the Nazi slave camps will never be known. 6 million, 3 million, 600,000...all irrelevant. Suffice to say that lots of people suffered, and died at the hands of the Nazis, and their slave camps.
•Slaves were used for human experiments of unimaginable horrors.
However one wants to look at it, there was a very real holocaust. The hair splitting details of numbers of dead, and methods of death are all irrelevant to the known facts.
zxcvzxcv ago
None of this is true.
VOALTRON ago
ALL of it is fact. Just because you listen to Nazi bullshit propaganda doesn't change facts. Learn history.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
Much longer read.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
Just a tiny red pill
Psylent ago
It wasn't fake... many here say it was but it's driven by politics more than reality. Was the number 6 million ? - doubt it, but it did happen. The jews carry on like they were the only ones though, the nazis did that shit to romani as well, heaps of others suffered too.
The evidence for the camps is overwhelming. The evidence against is simply picking little holes in things and saying "AHA!" and making huge leaps to all kinds of ridiculous shit. Anyway - good luck, I am sure someone will post a page or 2 of denial shit to keep you busy.
mohammed_was_a_fag ago
I'm open to both possibilities. As it stands, I believe it happened but agree with you that jews act as though they were the only ones that suffered. Unless someone here has compelling evidence then my mind will remain unchanged.
everef ago
Is the evidence that Jews were systematically mass-killed using zyklon B in gas chambers overwhelming?
Psylent ago
Yep sure is... and it wasn't just the jews.
Rather not get into circular arguments though. I know where this goes. You cannot prove something to people who don't want to change their minds. It's like showing flat earthers video of the earth from space - it will only be met with 'that's conspiracy by X to make Y believe in Z' ..
StankMouth ago
This is not true. Zyklon B was used as a pesticide and delousing agent by multiple countries. The amount needed would have left substantial residue on the walls/ceilings, and without ventilation in the “gas chambers” the rooms would have needed days before they could clear the bodies. https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p319_Faurisson.html
Read about Eisenhower’s death camps though, that’s an infuriating massacre.
TheWorstImaginable ago
I'm interested in your evidence of gas chambers
everef ago
Could you at least give an outline of this overwhelming evidence?
CameraCode0 ago
You're making claims against arguments that no one makes. No one says the camps didn't exist, or that some Jews didn't die. There is no evidence for extermination of the Jews. All the work camps that the allies captured were originally thought to be death camps as well. Only the camps captured by the Soviets were claimed to be death camps (perhaps to deflect from their own genocides), and they weren't even allowed to be inspected by the west until decades later.
I encourage OP to look at videos of the "gas chamber" on youtube, and research the history of the modifications to the buildings. Yes, the wooden door thing is not a meme. There's a ton more I can say, but there are resources literally everywhere on this site, and you really have to dig very deep into the facts themselves (not just the surface level stuff that they want you to see) and make up your own mind.
Redpilleveryone ago
You're supposed to swallow the redpills, not hold them in your hand. You lukewarm sonuvabitch.
Psylent ago
I don't get told what to think by anyone. Fuck all these pills and bullshit, think for your fucking self.
Redpilleveryone ago
pretending to be moderate is not the same as "not being told what to think by anyone". You're only thinking about how to be moderate. Open up and drink in the truth. Don't moderate your consumption of truth. Let go. You aren't in control.
Psylent ago
There is no pretending to be anything. There are plenty of cases where truth is clear and unambiguous. Denying shit because it disagrees with your political beliefs is ridiculous. I don't give a shit about being moderate, only reasonable and as unbias as I can be. If there is credible real information, data, evidence... then I don't give a shit what my favourite politician or religious group says about it.. reality is.. whether you like it or not.
Redpilleveryone ago
Do you think people were "nazis" then they denied the holocaust or the other way around? Clearly no one here has a political party representing them nor a politician, save trump if we're lucky and he puts an end to Israelis bullshit once and for all.
Back to the issue at hand. Look at the evidence for 6 million Jews being genocided in Europe during WWII and tell me what the facts say. No one denies the holocaust to fall in line with their political party or leaders. It would be impossible since the NSDAP doesn't fucking exist.
Psylent ago
The 6 million number is arbitrary - they have no idea exactly how many people were killed. As I said earlier, it wasn't all jews either, they just like to make out like it was only them who suffered. They're just using it as a political and social cudgel to silence any opposition to their ruling of the worlds economic institutions. When people start denying events even took place it just makes them look stupid - and invalidates anything else they might claim about the jews.
I wonder if the whole denial thing wasn't started by them to take away credibility from their detractors.
Redpilleveryone ago
The 6 mil number is not arbitrary. It has history. You are a revisionist apologist for the kikes. End of conversation.
Psylent ago
lol you're a fucking retard. Have fun with your mental issues, seems you have plenty.
AnthraxAlex ago
If it takes a modern crematorium 2-3 hours to cremate a body how many ovens would you need running 24/7 to cremate 6 million over the course of 3 years considering most of the supposed death camps didn't really get built or ramp up until after 41.
nutjob ago
2-3 hours to creamate a fat American body you mean? Surely, a tiny skeleton would burn faster.
mohammed_was_a_fag ago
468 ovens running 24/7 for 3 years could burn 6 million bodies at 2 hours per body.
I have no idea how many ovens they had. Any idea?
AnthraxAlex ago
Chelmno: 2 fixed 2 field
Belzec: none claimed cremation pits
Sobibor: none claimed cremation pits
Treblinka: none claimed cremation pits
Majdanek: 5
Auschwitz-Birkenauyeah: 46
less than 100 in total. The claim of cremation pits however has never been verified as no remains or evidence of their existence has been found after extensive searching in the areas where they were claimed to be used. Additionally several people have proven that they could not function in the way the cremation pits have been described and would have not been able to burn the masses of bodies claimed completely instead leaving behind large numbers of partially burned corpses and fragments.
PraiseIPU ago
we certain won't count these 1600 mass graves found in the Ukraine https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ezg6-mass-graves/
that doesn't follow with your mass graves bullshit
were they cremated or buried?
hope you stretch first before you start the mental gymnastics you have to do ~~~
AnthraxAlex ago
You mean the holdomor mass graves? Yeah plenty of those are found every summer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
The main problem being the people buried in the graves arent Jewish but ethnic Ukranians.
PraiseIPU ago
wow you read that whole article in 3 minutes
500 words per minute is impressive