The news that voat has a new "partner" has me nervous. I'm making contingency plans in the event that the partner turns out to insist on some sort of "curation," or if it seems like they're here to use voat as some sort of honeypot. If that happens I would like to remove every trace of everything I've ever posted to voat, but before writing my own script I wanted to check and see if this is work that has already been done.
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PuttItOut ago
Just delete your account.
We wipe all your data, including content replacement, when a user deletes their account (make sure you pay attention to the options as you can leave content or anonymize it too).
It makes me nervous that you are a janitor on a system sub and are posting submissions like this.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
FYI (and I'm sure you know), a good 40% of janitors and mods shouldn't be janitors and mods. That 40% accounts for a solid 25% of the issues with the Voat ecosystem right now. The other 75% of course being financing and essentially everything else you detailed in your most recent global sticky.
Voat is still growing and the poor moderators/janitors who help run the website are hindering it's growth, albeit by a fraction but enough to notice.
PuttItOut ago
@Cynabuns says the same thing. She should be the mod manager.
I'm curious though what you'd do to fix the mod problems. I think we agree it's an issue, but what is a solution?
lets_get_hyyerr ago
@Cynabuns certainly has brought up and continues to bring up great points in regards to the voat community.
The best solution to the problem right now would be to employ long standing community members to these positions, as these are the people who know Voat the best. Voat is in a critical stage right now of evolution and it's important to have these people effectively run the forums, just for the time being as the evolution takes place. This of course, would be a temporary action to ensure the voat ecosystem survival as voat begins to take more traction within the online community world.
Unfortunately, options are limited and I have put a lot of thought into how to remedy the issue, but of all the options available, employing the "old goats" is the safest security option for now. A successful way of employing this is to create a subverse where people can submit a "resume". Require all accounts applying to be older then 1 year of age, to be non-spamming accounts (i.e users who are not focused on only submitting links), to be active within the voat community and to prove they have moderation experience. Proving moderation experience is easy, especially if they have proof of doing so via evidence of where they moderate. There are countless forums online and I am sure many people from other forums, whether it be a forum related to cars, fitness or whatever. Once again, a temporary solution while voat evolves through this critical period.
Look at what happened to v/theunexplained - one of the larger subverses with over 13,000 subscribers, nuked and virtually inactive caused by a rouge moderator with hundreds of alt accounts. An account that which the voat community has identified as problematic and troublesome, and even documented it all on /v/ProtectVoat.
Lets just use me for this example.
I was a moderator on Reddit years ago for a handful of subreddits including but not limited to r/pizzagate, r/dankmemes, r/uncensorednews, r/dank_memes and others, all of which held over 100,000 excluding r/pizzagate which was unfortunately nunked by the anti-free speech Reddit admins. I have proof of having run these communities with the experience to back them. I was eventually removed from them due to my strong support of free speech and open forums while at the same time not tolerating shills and forum sliding. Things the Reddit community loves.
That's just one example and I am 100% sure there are others like myself on Voat who held similar position on Reddit and other forums as well. The subverse can simply be named v/ModApplications wherein a user, if accepted, can be given a janitorial or moderator role. The users would be "interviewed' by criteria such as their voat history, comment history and link submission history to ensure, as I mentioned before, they are not spammers, CCP farmers or the like.
A easy, temporary solution to protect voat and of course, those who are already effective janitors and mods would stay as they are most certainly needed.
Crensch ago
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3.4 years, 741scp 656ccp and doesn't have a fucking clue how badly this disqualifies him.
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Doesn't even know what the Reddit community really loves.
This is like a nigger's job application the moment Affirmative Action diversity quotas are rightfully struck down as unconstitutional - straight to the trashcan.
The only redeeming quality you seem to have is the ability to make me laugh. My grandmother is knitting you a scarf, faggot.
@kevdude @srayzie @Trigglypuff @Empress @gabara
lets_get_hyyerr ago
In an attempt to have a legitimate conversation, this is the response. How wonderful. Having internet points is no badge of hierarchy nor do these points mean anything. That's the same b.s you see on Reddit. Internet points mean absolutely nothing and it's disheartening to see you treat them the same way a Redditor would.
Well I spent quite a bit of time on there a couple years ago, so I have a pretty good idea.
While it's a bit ironic to see you employ the same behavior which is currently murdering the internets ability to accept free speech, all of my points are 100% valid. @PuttItOut asked me what I think could resolve the issue and I gave him one of my ideas. I'm sure there are others out there, but I haven't thought about them yet.
Once again, sad to see you behave like a redditor
Crensch ago
Literally doesn't understand that on VOAT, you need social currency to be taken seriously, though ostensibly having it doesn't guarantee acceptance of the username as legitimate; goats love their filtering mechanisms. I wonder if it knows it's not a goat?
Being this deluded.
Toppest of keks.
Using yourself as a totally innocent example with "proof" you "modded" "/r/pizzagate". So much fucking kek.
@MadWorld @clamhurt_legbeard @KatHarzso @zyklon_b @heygeorge
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Exactly spot on to what a Redditor would say. I'm not calling you one, but that's exactly how they think. As if imaginary internet points are the end all be all. They don't exist, aren't real currency and if they are a priority to you in your life, I respectfully suggest some rethinking.
Well thought out response there.
As I literally mentioned in the comments before, that's one example that I personally know of and, as I said before, I am 100% sure there are MANY other examples of this on Voat, without question.
If tagging people and breaking down comments satisfy your hunger for power, so be it. The points still stand
Crensch ago
Shill tactic. "My sock puppet is just as important as your only username that submits and comments heavily".
They're not, but if you're going to say something stupid, either have the explanation handy, or the currency to make people curious instead of thinking you a shill immediately.
Do you listen to the nigger shouting on the street corner just because "muh social currency don't real"?
Still not even understanding how absurd his comment was. You're very obviously not from here, and don't belong here, despite your pathetic smorgasbord-spattering of submissions to look legit.
"But goyim, I was telling the TRUTH when I said there were other examples! That makes YOU the bad guy!"
Want me to toss you another shovel? Hunger for power? Me? Kek.
Maybe; if you were still on Reddit.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
once again, you're not even understanding anything that's said lol deciphering information to extrapolate some answer to you that doesn't even exist in the first place
Crensch ago
Yeah, keep trying to make that narrative stick. On Voat. Kek.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
what are you even saying anymore. I'm totally lost now
Crensch ago
Which shows exactly why you should probably keep pretending to lurk instead of pretending to belong here. @kevdude