We have to unite with whoever is against our enemies, of which we have many. There are several battles that need fighting and unless we are going to kill everybody who disagrees with us, we need the votes. We've got to change minds: not just write them off completely.
Just over a year ago, most of them wouldn't have believed the level of corruption was even a possibility.
They can change, but we've got to use tact, not just continuous headbutting
You are no better to be honest. You still think that voting can save you from this situation. And I'm pretty sure that you would not be willing to give up almost every luxury and comfort you have to create a better future for the coming generations of white Americans / Europeans
Wrong. I've got nothing to lose and plenty to fight for. I'm the youngest son: I'm prime expendable fighting meat. I'm waiting to see what voting can do.
Voting made Hillary lose. That changed my mind on voting. There may be a time to do more than vote, but don't tell me that I'm no better. You aren't forming a militia either, faggot.
If voting can't work for us, what would you do today to ensure a better future for us?
That's right bitch, you know the score too. We won't fight until things get worse and our numbers grow. So calm down your judgments, we are on the same page, but we've got many fish to fry.
You ain't shit without numbers, and those numbers are all watching and waiting, same as you.
I agree with both your points but I'd really like to address your line "whoever is on our side"... That's the tough thing. We are the honest open side. We aren't shifty liars. Anybody can say they are on our side but it's a philosophical battle that once some ideas are presented as options, it shows they are still either very uneducated about the direction we want or they are trying to subvert our direction to allow more mass migration and banking control.
I agree with the above guy though, saying "every vote matters" shows you still think any vote can really modify the system from within. Democracy (including republics, any system wherein there are votes) is a farse. Stalin liked votes too. America must collapse and rebuild, it was broken from the start. Read Plato's Republic, Unqualified Reservations by Moldbug, every single republic in history has done what we are doing and we will collapse the same way they have. Learn history and see that what you're trying to do is a little futile (convert the masses to vote in a way that'll produce a better society, can't happen, never has happened in history, ever).
Fair enough. I don't have a battery option yet either, I think the more important thing is to not move too quickly, over extend, look like retarded neo nazis and then get killed before we even make any moves.
I don't know a better option up front. I know "not doing this" over many things will lead us to a better option, but we barely have that time.
Maybe the best thing we can do is red pill the blue pilled, black pill the red pilled, and white pill the black pilled. Or ultimately, I believe, God pill the black pilled, which leads to what I think the better option would be: a return of Christianity without the Jewish/secular/materialist mindset that has entered. I find Orthodox to have a good perspective and it seems to be doing really well for Russia and other eastern European countries. The reason I believe this'll matter is because it is the most significant difference in defining philosophies between the east and the West, and the east has done far far better at dealing with (((problems))) than the West.
And perhaps this argument sounds too big, "you want me to convert everyone to Christianity?"... Not necessarily. I want everybody to understand the logical arguments involved in defending a metaphysical worldview, since we've all been indoctrinated since birth into an atheistic materialist mindset that "allows anybody to be whatever they want" (relativism that leads to gender dysphoria and more importantly, complete control).
But maybe I just think philosophy/religion and history are going to be the things to help people because I'm learning about it right now more than I ever have and I find it more relevant to these political issues than any other study.
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MrDarkWater ago
We have to unite with whoever is against our enemies, of which we have many. There are several battles that need fighting and unless we are going to kill everybody who disagrees with us, we need the votes. We've got to change minds: not just write them off completely.
Just over a year ago, most of them wouldn't have believed the level of corruption was even a possibility.
They can change, but we've got to use tact, not just continuous headbutting
aLegoInYourShoe ago
You are no better to be honest. You still think that voting can save you from this situation. And I'm pretty sure that you would not be willing to give up almost every luxury and comfort you have to create a better future for the coming generations of white Americans / Europeans
MrDarkWater ago
Wrong. I've got nothing to lose and plenty to fight for. I'm the youngest son: I'm prime expendable fighting meat. I'm waiting to see what voting can do.
Voting made Hillary lose. That changed my mind on voting. There may be a time to do more than vote, but don't tell me that I'm no better. You aren't forming a militia either, faggot.
If voting can't work for us, what would you do today to ensure a better future for us?
That's right bitch, you know the score too. We won't fight until things get worse and our numbers grow. So calm down your judgments, we are on the same page, but we've got many fish to fry.
You ain't shit without numbers, and those numbers are all watching and waiting, same as you.
Waiyu_Dudat ago
I agree with both your points but I'd really like to address your line "whoever is on our side"... That's the tough thing. We are the honest open side. We aren't shifty liars. Anybody can say they are on our side but it's a philosophical battle that once some ideas are presented as options, it shows they are still either very uneducated about the direction we want or they are trying to subvert our direction to allow more mass migration and banking control.
I agree with the above guy though, saying "every vote matters" shows you still think any vote can really modify the system from within. Democracy (including republics, any system wherein there are votes) is a farse. Stalin liked votes too. America must collapse and rebuild, it was broken from the start. Read Plato's Republic, Unqualified Reservations by Moldbug, every single republic in history has done what we are doing and we will collapse the same way they have. Learn history and see that what you're trying to do is a little futile (convert the masses to vote in a way that'll produce a better society, can't happen, never has happened in history, ever).
MrDarkWater ago
Thanks for a quality readiness response. I've that I don't disagree with. I know the cycle, I know what's coming.
My problem is not how or why, but when and how effectively IT will work and last.
Numbers are required, but numbers are stupid and pacified right now.
I understand the criticism in getting, I don't understand y'all's better option though
Waiyu_Dudat ago
Fair enough. I don't have a battery option yet either, I think the more important thing is to not move too quickly, over extend, look like retarded neo nazis and then get killed before we even make any moves.
I don't know a better option up front. I know "not doing this" over many things will lead us to a better option, but we barely have that time.
Maybe the best thing we can do is red pill the blue pilled, black pill the red pilled, and white pill the black pilled. Or ultimately, I believe, God pill the black pilled, which leads to what I think the better option would be: a return of Christianity without the Jewish/secular/materialist mindset that has entered. I find Orthodox to have a good perspective and it seems to be doing really well for Russia and other eastern European countries. The reason I believe this'll matter is because it is the most significant difference in defining philosophies between the east and the West, and the east has done far far better at dealing with (((problems))) than the West.
And perhaps this argument sounds too big, "you want me to convert everyone to Christianity?"... Not necessarily. I want everybody to understand the logical arguments involved in defending a metaphysical worldview, since we've all been indoctrinated since birth into an atheistic materialist mindset that "allows anybody to be whatever they want" (relativism that leads to gender dysphoria and more importantly, complete control).
But maybe I just think philosophy/religion and history are going to be the things to help people because I'm learning about it right now more than I ever have and I find it more relevant to these political issues than any other study.
MrDarkWater ago
Yes, we are on the exact same page. Great response. Thanks.
Waiyu_Dudat ago
Best of luck then friend. Here's to the future. God bless.