Landwhale, I'll give you an upvote. Government is the problem. I would be even more specific. Giving money to the government is the problem. They can't control us as well if we don't have high taxes. Find some way to lower taxes (and gibs) and we might discover freedom.
To have a government and what form is a literally eternal debate. I'm leaning towards elected monarchy myself, but the Pope's bullshit has shown the issues inherent in that.
Complete anarchy would be great in theory... but someone's going to get a group of heavily armed people together and go on a conquest spree.
I wish we could return to the days of Grande Tartaria, but it will take a lot of work for humanity to return to those heights.
But by any definition our current form is working against the interests of the people of this nation and for those of another. Therefore we have a hostile occupying government of some form or another. (gas the kikes)
mankind will always be mankind. no matter how many are good, decent, and kind, there will always be the base of the species fucking things up. this is why we in the know realize utopia truly means "nowhere." there will be no heaven on earth. and it is going to be a battle to the day we die to have peace. relish loved ones, good food, good friends, and those short respites of joy. i am a very thankful and grateful person. seems being thankful and loving the simple things makes for a more "realized" life. what we need to protect is our basic right of freedom of association and all that that entails.
Complete anarchy would be great in theory... but someone's going to get a group of heavily armed people together and go on a conquest spree.
Sorry, but I disagree. Having rulers has almost always been the case, and it's very clear decent human beings don't need rulers. Any idea that you need a government, even a very limited one, is propaganda. Also don't forget who allows which historical records are available for you to read, and to believe any of the written history we've been sold would be all based on faith. Faith that your gov won't lie to you.... well, we know how that goes.
No I think you're mostly right. But nature abhors a vacuum and the power vacuum WILL be filled. IF not by a government the people at least tolerate, then by a brutal ideology like Islam. People are inherently good, but with evil inside. And not everyone even has that good on the surface. It only takes a handful of people (like the jews) working against the rest to fuck the rest over.
I think over time technology will help reduce our need for a government, and ideally local militias would be the main holders of some level of military defense against the conquering Islamist or whomever.
For an idea of a super high tech and low government society I recomend checking out https://www.quantumvibe.com
Try not to forget that religion is actually a tool used by the governement as well. These muslims are muslims because their country raises them as such. The idea that the church or any religious institution we currently have isn't used as a form of control would be false. Our own dollar bill says "in god we trust". Don't you find it curious they felt the need to put that there?
So this goes back to what I meant when I asked who do you think is responsible for creating indecency in the first place.
Humans are responsible for creating all suffering other than that which happens as an accident of nature. People don't have to be taught how to be evil. But they can be taught how to be even more evil.
Yes, and it's also because of the dualistic nature of reality. There will always be good and evil for the very same reason there can't be an inside without an outside.
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Rawrination ago
Removing an evil person is easy. Removing and more importantly REPLACING an evil system is a lot harder.
Also we're not dealing with an evil person, but an enemy occupying government filled to overflowing with evil.
It's going to take a war, or at the very least a credible threat of one.
Landwhaleonline ago
It's not evil occupying gov like u say, that's the same thought process of a typical Q'er. The idea of a gov itself is the problem, go figure.
fuckmyreddit ago
Landwhale, I'll give you an upvote. Government is the problem. I would be even more specific. Giving money to the government is the problem. They can't control us as well if we don't have high taxes. Find some way to lower taxes (and gibs) and we might discover freedom.
Rawrination ago
To have a government and what form is a literally eternal debate. I'm leaning towards elected monarchy myself, but the Pope's bullshit has shown the issues inherent in that.
Complete anarchy would be great in theory... but someone's going to get a group of heavily armed people together and go on a conquest spree.
I wish we could return to the days of Grande Tartaria, but it will take a lot of work for humanity to return to those heights.
But by any definition our current form is working against the interests of the people of this nation and for those of another. Therefore we have a hostile occupying government of some form or another. (gas the kikes)
BordelonLoop ago
mankind will always be mankind. no matter how many are good, decent, and kind, there will always be the base of the species fucking things up. this is why we in the know realize utopia truly means "nowhere." there will be no heaven on earth. and it is going to be a battle to the day we die to have peace. relish loved ones, good food, good friends, and those short respites of joy. i am a very thankful and grateful person. seems being thankful and loving the simple things makes for a more "realized" life. what we need to protect is our basic right of freedom of association and all that that entails.
Landwhaleonline ago
Sorry, but I disagree. Having rulers has almost always been the case, and it's very clear decent human beings don't need rulers. Any idea that you need a government, even a very limited one, is propaganda. Also don't forget who allows which historical records are available for you to read, and to believe any of the written history we've been sold would be all based on faith. Faith that your gov won't lie to you.... well, we know how that goes.
Rawrination ago
No I think you're mostly right. But nature abhors a vacuum and the power vacuum WILL be filled. IF not by a government the people at least tolerate, then by a brutal ideology like Islam. People are inherently good, but with evil inside. And not everyone even has that good on the surface. It only takes a handful of people (like the jews) working against the rest to fuck the rest over.
I think over time technology will help reduce our need for a government, and ideally local militias would be the main holders of some level of military defense against the conquering Islamist or whomever.
For an idea of a super high tech and low government society I recomend checking out https://www.quantumvibe.com
For another take on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_series for a post scarcity take on things.
Another great place to check is Isaac Arthur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kt7883oTd0
Landwhaleonline ago
Try not to forget that religion is actually a tool used by the governement as well. These muslims are muslims because their country raises them as such. The idea that the church or any religious institution we currently have isn't used as a form of control would be false. Our own dollar bill says "in god we trust". Don't you find it curious they felt the need to put that there?
So this goes back to what I meant when I asked who do you think is responsible for creating indecency in the first place.
Rawrination ago
Humans are responsible for creating all suffering other than that which happens as an accident of nature. People don't have to be taught how to be evil. But they can be taught how to be even more evil.
Landwhaleonline ago
Yes, and it's also because of the dualistic nature of reality. There will always be good and evil for the very same reason there can't be an inside without an outside.