I have been here for a good while, originally OzarkMoutainGoat. I don't comment much anymore, I just lurk. This site is basically dead, it has been so for a while. It was dead from get-go. The admin hates the user base and a substantial subsection of the user base goes way out of their way to be unpalatable to anyone but the initiated.
And another substantial part of the user base is plants who actively try to act like the most obnoxious, stereotypical right wing bigots possible. Probably sent by one of the SRS spinoffs associated with reddit. Similar things happen whenever someone tries to startup a rival to wikipedia....it gets filled with "racist" and "sexist" plants to poison the fuck out of that well. Problem is, so far their strategy has been WORKING.
4chan is alive, very alive. It fills the niche of anonymous message board free of the usual "virtue signaling sjw feelsgood" behavior stemming from people farming "reputation point" for their account.
You’re kidding, right? All boards except /pol/ ban all right-wing discussion immediately, and THEY CAN BAN YOU FROM ALL BOARDS AT ONCE. And you can’t even say nigger on /pol/ anymore. You know nothing about cuckchan.
What a retarded definition. We’re speaking within the context of the OP, as well as the context of the ability to post truth on the website. Your definition is incorrect.
Things youbhave not denied or refuted:;:.
No job,.
No kids,.
No woman,.
Too much time.
What have you been doing to push the white race?
Before calling someone an autist, which you're chock full of ad hominems, via tu quo que, please, evaluate your life before stating that i make no counter arguments, which i find that if I were to engage it with you it results in th following;:.
-reported lol.
-fuck off kike (im not even jewish).
-confirmed shill.
-combination of all of the above.
You have no originality, you have literally no personality, and you blame the world for not providing a sound bear to cuddle your muddles.
I'm sorry you feel that way, i truly do. But you can always check out grindr for a shot at reproduction.
I’m going to go right ahead and confirm that “paid shill” descriptor I laid out, given that you’re just shitting out bot spam now. Thanks for discrediting every post you make.
I guess I’m on the wrong board, then. /b/ is terrible now. There are tons of SJW threads on there along with endless trap threads, reposts, and lame porn threads
they're called SBBH. puttitout is one of them. they took over the site and pushed atif colo out, gutted the mods, censored the place up, harassed off the old users, shut down good things like chat, ads... yeah
I've been here since WhoaVerse (different account, obv). I can't confirm anything about @puttitout (or @atko) hating the userbase, but it wouldn't surprise me. I will agree that the site's dead.
This site is to reddit what 8ch is to 4chan - an uglier, less friendly, less up-to-date cousin.
I check the site once or twice a week, since that's all the front page really changes. Usually, it's all just some variation of the same shit I remember seeing on the old /r/niggers back in 2011 (there haven't been any new Tyrone comics since '13, FYI), or something that was on 4/8chan last week or a few days ago, or reddit this morning, or pictures ripped from imgur's yesterday's front page, or some stale shit from 2014 that @some_guy_in_ri resized and hosted on his blogspot.
It's too bad. The site could have been something, and seemed like it came really close a couple times. Stale content never helps, but the reddit-reject userbase combined with the owner's counterproductive and downright bizarre opposition to using standard methods of funding the site (donations, merchandizing, investors, etc.) also aren't much help in growing the site.
I used to recommend Voat to people, but with all the jew and black hating on every god damn post about anything I haven't been able to do that in a long time.
I'm in the same boat. I value free speech and will defend the right of idiots to scream about "niggers" and "da j00z" in every other comment, but I also recognize that their behavior is stunting growth because their autistic bigoted screeching is repulsive to newcomers who're actually sane.
If anyone cared about free speech and wanted to make this place "hate" free they could have a script that censored words, blocked comments and or posts by users, or anything. But no one does, they just want safe spaces and circle jerks. ...and anyway, if they want what I just mentioned that's what Reddit is, plus a ton more content so what's the point.
One can be pro free speech but on their end want to block or ****-out words that they don't want to see. There's nothing wrong with that. Pro-free speech is similar to pro-free choice. You have the freedom to say what you want, they have the freedom to hide what you say if they don't want to see it.
There's such a thing as "acceptable for youngun's" and "not". (yes, I just "for da keeeds"'d, but you "Literally Stalin'd" me, so..)
We're discussing ways that a toxic community can have a broader appeal. A filtered-words script for users to download, install, and configure on their end is a fine place to start. ...and it's something they could do anyway, Einstein.
Mainstream media and the culture of political coorrectness pushes people to extremes, they think because they were lied to about black crime for example.
I do find it a little ironic though that those complaining about free speech/expression will claim their goal is to commit total genocide of all those who disagree with them politically, or because of the color of their skin is different. Maybe some of them don't really mean it.
Of itself, it doesn't bother me - what bothers me is that it comes up in places where it's not even close to the topic of the post to the point of often being unhelpful; and has become so ubiquitous that it becomes a deliberate filter against new people, which is kinda fucked up, really.
I'm simply pointing out that I can't recommend the site when all the person will see is a wall of hate; er go, no growth.
Either free speech is allowed, including saying nigger and faggot every other word if you please, or not. Along with that comes the ability to upvoat or downvoat at will.
The alternative is Reddit where they just censor whatever the fuck they feel like if it hurts someone's fee fees.
Free speech is absolutism by nature, there is no real middle ground in that concept that I can see.
There's nothing wrong with using those words but when all you do is spam "nigger," "kike," everywhere with nothing else of substance then that's the problem.
I hope to know what happened to Atko one day. Create popular website and then give it away? No compensation? Just vanishes into the ether. This never sat right with me.
I takes real money to keep the lights on. If you are running a business and you care about anything other than the bottom line you are destined to failure. Revenue is everything.
Once again, you are thinking too simply. Revenue does not magically make a business venture successful and lack of it does not destine one to fail. There are many indirect paths to profitability.
You apparently are a girl and your opinion doesn't matter much. The only business you should be trusted in, is selling pussy, even then you would need a pimp to maintain a revenue stream.
Go over the conversation again. My argument is that business relies on money and nothing more. Her argument is that I'm thinking too simply and implied that intention matters. So in this case
Business relies on a lot more than just money, we're not talking about a hotdog stand here but it's a good way to illustrate it :
If you have all the funds to buy you supplies, does that make your business appealing ? Nope. If you have zero personality & no hygienic practices, will that attract customers ? Nope. If your location sucks and not enough people come by, will having funds help you grow ? Nope.
A really quick example of why money isn't the only thing that matters in a business.
In regards to funding, afaik the exponential growth of Bitcoin since the last donation drive is what allowed funding to take a back seat & have Putt give his energy to lowering operating costs.
In this case, having a cock doesn't make you more business savy than @Le_Squish.
I wouldn't buy pussy from you knowing you only care about money in the end, your whores probably would be disgusting by lack of care.
afaik the exponential growth of Bitcoin since the last donation drive is what allowed funding to take a back seat & have Putt give his energy to lowering operating costs.
This makes sense, it's funny that it took a man to explain her point.
That's part of the point, voat isn't by default a welcoming place, you have to earn your right to be here. When the community goes full 14880tard thats the immune system of voat reacting to foreigners. If by some chance the new users manage to tolerate the full blast and just ignore it or tolerate it, they happen to be of the few who have the right to be on voat.
However, what I dont like is when users go to subs and try and harass them there and then get banned, and then cry about it to try and get some brigading going. That should be curtailed. I guess making the CCPs and the other thing local or per sub could solve many of the issues. Including some of the voat farming.
thats bullshit... that would kill the first page... a thing what wouldnt bother me.,.. cuase thsi format is shit in its essence but thats another story...
When the community goes full 14880tard thats the immune system of voat reacting to foreigners.
The "community" is in a perpetual state of going full 14880tard at any given point of time, though. Some niche subverses aside, Voat has already turned into the right-wing equivalent of fucking NeoGaf. If you call that an immune system, the patient has died from an allergic shock years ago.
That's the stupidest thing I've heard all year. Last I checked Voat asked two things, don't to illegal things and don't prevent others from speaking. Everyone is welcome, those actions are not.
The downvote system limits you to 10 posts per day when you are in the negatives. You may be put in the negatives by anyone (meaning any user, meaning tens of millions of bots count be created to push a narrative), at which point you can’t speak truth anymore. This, admittedly, is a far larger problem on Reddit than here. But the problem exists here.
Nah, I'm just saying I generally don't add to the conversation unless I'm sure I want to say it, and a 10 post per day punishment is only a punishment if you live on here. Which I clearly do not.
There's a lot of people out there that would like to take advantage of an open platform and use the freedoms it offers to limit other's freedoms. "Earning the right to be here" just means proving that limiting others isn't one's intent. The immune system around here ferrets that out by pushing buttons to see if newcomers can live and let live or not.
There's no reason to deliberately be offensive to most people. Claiming it's to test them to see if they're 100% OK with free speech is like a Liberal saying if you're not comfortable with gays butt-fucking each other in public and throwing aids blood on you when you're in public in you're a real Progressive.
It's done because the weak willed faggots that get butt hurt over it run off back to reddit with their tails between their legs instead of trying to bring us all down to their level. That's literally it. We don't hate them or do it to vent, it's just an immune system reaction to keep the good alive here.
I understand the immune system, I helped to create it.
However, what I dont like is when users go to subs and try and harass them there and then get banned, and then cry about it to try and get some brigading going.
This is the part they call innocent shitposting and it is anything but innocent.
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Monteblanc ago
I have been here for a good while, originally OzarkMoutainGoat. I don't comment much anymore, I just lurk. This site is basically dead, it has been so for a while. It was dead from get-go. The admin hates the user base and a substantial subsection of the user base goes way out of their way to be unpalatable to anyone but the initiated.
mralexson ago
It’s sad I just moved here
IndigoElectric ago
I cannot agree with this sentiment more.
MediumBlargh ago
And another substantial part of the user base is plants who actively try to act like the most obnoxious, stereotypical right wing bigots possible. Probably sent by one of the SRS spinoffs associated with reddit. Similar things happen whenever someone tries to startup a rival to wikipedia....it gets filled with "racist" and "sexist" plants to poison the fuck out of that well. Problem is, so far their strategy has been WORKING.
Crow_T_robocop ago
This site is more alive than 8chan (which is actually dead), and it's way better than 4chan, which is also dying.
Tallest_Skil ago
Cuckchan died four years ago. 8chan died only two.
Schreiber ago
Lol no.
4chan is alive, very alive. It fills the niche of anonymous message board free of the usual "virtue signaling sjw feelsgood" behavior stemming from people farming "reputation point" for their account.
Tallest_Skil ago
You’re kidding, right? All boards except /pol/ ban all right-wing discussion immediately, and THEY CAN BAN YOU FROM ALL BOARDS AT ONCE. And you can’t even say nigger on /pol/ anymore. You know nothing about cuckchan.
Schreiber ago
That's not the definition of alive.
Just because it's censored doesn't mean it's not alive. Reddit is alive. If there are people that use it then it's alive.
Tallest_Skil ago
What a retarded definition. We’re speaking within the context of the OP, as well as the context of the ability to post truth on the website. Your definition is incorrect.
spookybm ago
You need to get laid.
Tallest_Skil ago
Keep your degenerate kikery to yourself, shill.
spookybm ago
Your quick reply makes me believe you have no job.
You need to get a job.
Tallest_Skil ago
Cry harder, shill.
spookybm ago
Not an argument, NEET
Tallest_Skil ago
You’re genuinely autistic, aren’t you? It’s not even an insult to you.
spookybm ago
Things youbhave not denied or refuted:;:.
No job,.
No kids,.
No woman,.
Too much time.
What have you been doing to push the white race?
Before calling someone an autist, which you're chock full of ad hominems, via tu quo que, please, evaluate your life before stating that i make no counter arguments, which i find that if I were to engage it with you it results in th following;:.
-reported lol.
-fuck off kike (im not even jewish).
-confirmed shill.
-combination of all of the above.
You have no originality, you have literally no personality, and you blame the world for not providing a sound bear to cuddle your muddles.
I'm sorry you feel that way, i truly do. But you can always check out grindr for a shot at reproduction.
Tallest_Skil ago
I’m going to go right ahead and confirm that “paid shill” descriptor I laid out, given that you’re just shitting out bot spam now. Thanks for discrediting every post you make.
spookybm ago
Thanks for confirming mine
Tallest_Skil ago
>shill thinks anyone gives a shit about him
spookybm ago
Cute.
Tallest_Skil ago
>kike paid shill can’t read English
Obvious.
spookybm ago
You keep my day so lively!
Crow_T_robocop ago
I guess I’m on the wrong board, then. /b/ is terrible now. There are tons of SJW threads on there along with endless trap threads, reposts, and lame porn threads
Schreiber ago
No idea man. I only ever go to /pol/
For me that's the only part of 4chan that matters.
BaneGhostiSwear ago
they're called SBBH. puttitout is one of them. they took over the site and pushed atif colo out, gutted the mods, censored the place up, harassed off the old users, shut down good things like chat, ads... yeah
they're killing voat on purpose
Armpit_and_Ass ago
I've been here since WhoaVerse (different account, obv). I can't confirm anything about @puttitout (or @atko) hating the userbase, but it wouldn't surprise me. I will agree that the site's dead.
This site is to reddit what 8ch is to 4chan - an uglier, less friendly, less up-to-date cousin.
I check the site once or twice a week, since that's all the front page really changes. Usually, it's all just some variation of the same shit I remember seeing on the old /r/niggers back in 2011 (there haven't been any new Tyrone comics since '13, FYI), or something that was on 4/8chan last week or a few days ago, or reddit this morning, or pictures ripped from imgur's yesterday's front page, or some stale shit from 2014 that @some_guy_in_ri resized and hosted on his blogspot.
It's too bad. The site could have been something, and seemed like it came really close a couple times. Stale content never helps, but the reddit-reject userbase combined with the owner's counterproductive and downright bizarre opposition to using standard methods of funding the site (donations, merchandizing, investors, etc.) also aren't much help in growing the site.
It'll completely die eventually.
Rakosman ago
I used to recommend Voat to people, but with all the jew and black hating on every god damn post about anything I haven't been able to do that in a long time.
daskapitalist ago
I'm in the same boat. I value free speech and will defend the right of idiots to scream about "niggers" and "da j00z" in every other comment, but I also recognize that their behavior is stunting growth because their autistic bigoted screeching is repulsive to newcomers who're actually sane.
MediumBlargh ago
Most of it is from plants who are deliberately trying to turn people away,
Tallest_Skil ago
You’re retarded, you don’t deserve to be here, and WE DON’T WANT YOU OR ANYONE stupid enough to reject it.
BaneGhostiSwear ago
well you're a niggerfaggot. go back to twatter.
SBBHandPVareRETARDS ago
It's an easily solved problem.
fluhthreeex ago
If anyone cared about free speech and wanted to make this place "hate" free they could have a script that censored words, blocked comments and or posts by users, or anything. But no one does, they just want safe spaces and circle jerks. ...and anyway, if they want what I just mentioned that's what Reddit is, plus a ton more content so what's the point.
I_TakeupSpace ago
You can only pick one, Stalin.
fluhthreeex ago
One can be pro free speech but on their end want to block or ****-out words that they don't want to see. There's nothing wrong with that. Pro-free speech is similar to pro-free choice. You have the freedom to say what you want, they have the freedom to hide what you say if they don't want to see it.
There's such a thing as "acceptable for youngun's" and "not". (yes, I just "for da keeeds"'d, but you "Literally Stalin'd" me, so..)
We're discussing ways that a toxic community can have a broader appeal. A filtered-words script for users to download, install, and configure on their end is a fine place to start. ...and it's something they could do anyway, Einstein.
I_TakeupSpace ago
I ain't no Jew.
SBBHandPVareRETARDS ago
I meant niggers and Jews are an easily solved problem.
Monteblanc ago
There is a reason for hate.
sjwTroll ago
Mainstream media and the culture of political coorrectness pushes people to extremes, they think because they were lied to about black crime for example.
I do find it a little ironic though that those complaining about free speech/expression will claim their goal is to commit total genocide of all those who disagree with them politically, or because of the color of their skin is different. Maybe some of them don't really mean it.
Rakosman ago
Of itself, it doesn't bother me - what bothers me is that it comes up in places where it's not even close to the topic of the post to the point of often being unhelpful; and has become so ubiquitous that it becomes a deliberate filter against new people, which is kinda fucked up, really.
I'm simply pointing out that I can't recommend the site when all the person will see is a wall of hate; er go, no growth.
SBBHandPVareRETARDS ago
Found the kike.
Schreiber ago
^precisely the problem.
Petulant manchild calling everybody who disagree with them "kike."
SBBHandPVareRETARDS ago
Nigger.
Schreiber ago
Said the nigger who doesn't have the balls to use his main account.
SBBHandPVareRETARDS ago
Kike.
GoatEmperorTrump ago
At the same time, what really is the alternative?
Either free speech is allowed, including saying nigger and faggot every other word if you please, or not. Along with that comes the ability to upvoat or downvoat at will.
The alternative is Reddit where they just censor whatever the fuck they feel like if it hurts someone's fee fees.
Free speech is absolutism by nature, there is no real middle ground in that concept that I can see.
Schreiber ago
There's nothing wrong with using those words but when all you do is spam "nigger," "kike," everywhere with nothing else of substance then that's the problem.
Monteblanc ago
I understand dude.
Le_Squish ago
In every business, you will hate most if your customers. Websites are not an exception.
Most developers and admins have no business training so it is difficult for them to tackle this aspect of a website.
BaneGhostiSwear ago
if i ran voat, i would like many of the people here as i already do!
well, @puttitout ran most of them off... but before @puttitout and SBBH ruined voat on purpose for the jews, it was awesome here!
sincerely,
sanegoatiswear.
Tallest_Skil ago
Reported for yet another schizophrenic paid shill alt.
Kal ago
I hope to know what happened to Atko one day. Create popular website and then give it away? No compensation? Just vanishes into the ether. This never sat right with me.
BaneGhostiSwear ago
right? he's apparently here; ask him!
@atko why are you not allowed to talk about what happened? if you are legally gagged, absolutely don't post a stupid video to prove it!
Monteblanc ago
From the surface view, to us users, I don't see how Voat could be considered a business. It's more like a vanity affair or a sociology project.
BaneGhostiSwear ago
it fucking should be a 501c3 non profit.
@puttitout
Le_Squish ago
Philosophically voat isn't a business but logistically it is.
Monteblanc ago
How is the site making money? From my understanding r/the_donald gave a bunch and then fucked off. Is there another revenue stream now?
Le_Squish ago
You are thinking too simply. Revenue is only 1 aspect of a business.
Monteblanc ago
I takes real money to keep the lights on. If you are running a business and you care about anything other than the bottom line you are destined to failure. Revenue is everything.
Le_Squish ago
Once again, you are thinking too simply. Revenue does not magically make a business venture successful and lack of it does not destine one to fail. There are many indirect paths to profitability.
fluhthreeex ago
Well then quit beating around the bush and spit it the fuck out. What are you trying to say?
Monteblanc ago
It looks like you are thinking too grandly. How are the bills getting paid for this site? Do all of the admin work for free?
Le_Squish ago
You really aren't equipped for this discussion so I'm gonna leave you to your own devices.
Monteblanc ago
You apparently are a girl and your opinion doesn't matter much. The only business you should be trusted in, is selling pussy, even then you would need a pimp to maintain a revenue stream.
Rotteuxx ago
What a shitty response, "You've got a pussy & therefore shouldn't talk."
Monteblanc ago
Go over the conversation again. My argument is that business relies on money and nothing more. Her argument is that I'm thinking too simply and implied that intention matters. So in this case
Applies well.
Rotteuxx ago
Business relies on a lot more than just money, we're not talking about a hotdog stand here but it's a good way to illustrate it :
If you have all the funds to buy you supplies, does that make your business appealing ? Nope. If you have zero personality & no hygienic practices, will that attract customers ? Nope. If your location sucks and not enough people come by, will having funds help you grow ? Nope.
A really quick example of why money isn't the only thing that matters in a business.
In regards to funding, afaik the exponential growth of Bitcoin since the last donation drive is what allowed funding to take a back seat & have Putt give his energy to lowering operating costs.
In this case, having a cock doesn't make you more business savy than @Le_Squish.
I wouldn't buy pussy from you knowing you only care about money in the end, your whores probably would be disgusting by lack of care.
Monteblanc ago
This makes sense, it's funny that it took a man to explain her point.
Rotteuxx ago
She didn't feel like it.
But how come you didn't know that ? Shouldn't a man be well informed ?
Monteblanc ago
Don't confuse knowing with caring.
Rotteuxx ago
For someone who doesn't care you sure make it seem as if you did.
Pawn ago
That's part of the point, voat isn't by default a welcoming place, you have to earn your right to be here. When the community goes full 14880tard thats the immune system of voat reacting to foreigners. If by some chance the new users manage to tolerate the full blast and just ignore it or tolerate it, they happen to be of the few who have the right to be on voat.
However, what I dont like is when users go to subs and try and harass them there and then get banned, and then cry about it to try and get some brigading going. That should be curtailed. I guess making the CCPs and the other thing local or per sub could solve many of the issues. Including some of the voat farming.
Pissant ago
Start naming these groups, they can't write us all off as SaneGoat.
Pissant ago
I wonder what you said that merited seven downvoats.
Pawn ago
Probably the fact that per sub CPP and submission points would negate shilling advantages.
Schreiber ago
I agree with local CCP per sub.
SparkS ago
thats bullshit... that would kill the first page... a thing what wouldnt bother me.,.. cuase thsi format is shit in its essence but thats another story...
ArsCortica ago
The "community" is in a perpetual state of going full 14880tard at any given point of time, though. Some niche subverses aside, Voat has already turned into the right-wing equivalent of fucking NeoGaf. If you call that an immune system, the patient has died from an allergic shock years ago.
Rakosman ago
That's the stupidest thing I've heard all year. Last I checked Voat asked two things, don't to illegal things and don't prevent others from speaking. Everyone is welcome, those actions are not.
Tallest_Skil ago
The downvote system limits you to 10 posts per day when you are in the negatives. You may be put in the negatives by anyone (meaning any user, meaning tens of millions of bots count be created to push a narrative), at which point you can’t speak truth anymore. This, admittedly, is a far larger problem on Reddit than here. But the problem exists here.
BaldMiscreant ago
Honestly can't recall the last time I had 10 things to say to you morons in one day.
Tallest_Skil ago
So leave and never come back. We don’t give a shit about you as a person.
BaldMiscreant ago
Nah, I'm just saying I generally don't add to the conversation unless I'm sure I want to say it, and a 10 post per day punishment is only a punishment if you live on here. Which I clearly do not.
YugeDick ago
There's a lot of people out there that would like to take advantage of an open platform and use the freedoms it offers to limit other's freedoms. "Earning the right to be here" just means proving that limiting others isn't one's intent. The immune system around here ferrets that out by pushing buttons to see if newcomers can live and let live or not.
fluhthreeex ago
There's no reason to deliberately be offensive to most people. Claiming it's to test them to see if they're 100% OK with free speech is like a Liberal saying if you're not comfortable with gays butt-fucking each other in public and throwing aids blood on you when you're in public in you're a real Progressive.
475677 ago
It's done because the weak willed faggots that get butt hurt over it run off back to reddit with their tails between their legs instead of trying to bring us all down to their level. That's literally it. We don't hate them or do it to vent, it's just an immune system reaction to keep the good alive here.
BackAsswards ago
Best way I've seen it put. Voat will always be limited if that's how every new member is treated.
Monteblanc ago
I understand the immune system, I helped to create it.
This is the part they call innocent shitposting and it is anything but innocent.