How compromised is Voat? Honeypot? (AskVoat)

submitted ago by k00dyk00ps

Sure, your IP identifies you. Sure, most VPNs will comply with the US Government, and using a VPN in the first place makes you stand out. But what if you're a ghost on the interwebs. What if your lurk, educate yourself, and occasionally post anonymously. Having an account with a post history is a great way to get an idea of an individual's political views and ideologies; why make their job easier for them?

Am I wrong, or am I cuck? Is this WW2 and do I have to contribute to the motherland, one I don't believe in? Or is there something wrong with me fucking off into my own, personally created reality. Between Pizzagate, the mind games, the corruption, this shit is too much. The faith in the system I was raised to have is long gone. Does that put me on a list? I don't want to be a part of this system, I want to control my reality. Fuck society.

Fuck Making America Great Again, you can't revive a zombie.

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crustyjuggler ago

This was up for discussion a year or two ago. Here are the highlights:

  • The Bad: VOAT uses cloudflare. While cloudflare turns a blind eye to the worst of the web such as torrents and privacy, they may assist the NSA. Not much is really publicly known about this, except cloudflare's CDN does caching that can essentially log what goes on here. Don't tip off who you are, and don't use a username that they can trace back to you.
  • The Bad: Your ISP works against you no matter what you do. You should be using a log-free VPN service, like yesterday. https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/
  • The Good: We have some awesome hosts. /u/Atko and /u/PuttItOut are great fellas that take money out of their pockets to keep this ship afloat. Don't forget to donate.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

speech is not free on voat.

  • atko recently commented a little history. he made whoaverse as a safe space, and when all they racysis came in he "allowed" it.

  • free speech is a privilege given to you here on voat. it can be taken away. they reserve the right in the user agreement to remove your content and you at will. section 2 of the user agreement

  • there are major behavioral (voting commenting and posting) restriction on almost all new accounts (even ones that are months old!! example: restricting voting by participation and time: "you have x amount of ccp; participate more to get more ccp to be able to upvoat more!" "you have reached your comment quota. 10 comments in 24 hours.")

  • and there are behavioral restrictions on all accounts (no dv'ing past 7 days for example).

  • now, as well, there's self-censorship ala 75% shadowboxing here on voat and they plan on adding more!!!!

  • almost forgot that -ccp equals commenting restrictions as well; a form of site-wide user-curated censorship.

  • also, and this isn't a problem, but many subs are curated and not free to speak, for example v/niggers v/fatpeoplehate and the sub i mod v/til all have rules that can get your free speech deleted.

  • and also there's a fucking cabal of sjws currently taking over voat in v/protectvoat and v/soapboxbanhammer who currently talk to the admins offline, and code voat with them, and now we have the admins admitting that not all code to voat goes to git so it's not even ness. open source at any given moment. they go around downvoat brigading anyone speaking up in a way they don't like or on subjects they don't want talked about; they forum slide, they disinfo (i've had over 1000 hours of time dropped into shilling against me, attacking my character, etc, just against me by this very group for asking about making a canary, getting year old bugs fixed, asking what happened to the admins disappearing, and more). they are a form of censorship when they behave as a group this way against voat and voat goats. worse. the admins have joined in with the sjw cabal in shittalking and shilling against a number of users for speaking up about real voat problems. NOTE: the atko and puttitout from before the disappearance were nothing but transparent, friendly, and talkative. it's a 180 degree shift in personality, what i speak of here.

so fuck no

speech is not free here.

on voat: speech is a privilege, speech is curtailed, speech is curated, speech is restricted, speech is prevented, speech is undermined.

TLDR: it's freeze peach on voat, nigger. not free speech.

@k00dyk00ps worth a read

Thisismyvoatusername ago

The only problem I see in what you wrote concerns the speech issues in /v/til given how problematic the mod of that sub is.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

going for that sweet brigade upvoat honey?

Thisismyvoatusername ago

Naw, this ain't reddit. I just like to tease people when they make self-referential posts.

k00dyk00ps ago

Naw, this ain't reddit. Just reddit 2.0.

Give it 2-3 years. Maybe 1.

Thisismyvoatusername ago

Sadly, I think you're right.

k00dyk00ps ago

Thank you for confirming my feelings.

Thisismyvoatusername ago

I am all about affirmatory statements if it only requires me to do it anonymously on the Internet.

k00dyk00ps ago

AHHH inhale that freedom. Feels guuuuud.

crustyjuggler ago

Thanks for adding to the conversation. I think we had a similar discussion a while back with /u/thepower

For the most part, I thought OP was asking primarily about the NSA. I still don't see our hosts as completely censorious, but I agree with your points and the disappearance was strange for me as well.

EDIT: I think its important to note that constant death threats and negativity can change anyone from delightful to dim. Look at a ton of you-tubers who lose their minds looking at all of the negativity. Though, it is a safe bet to assume the worst with a potential take-over.

k00dyk00ps ago

Lose my mind? I lost my mind, it's somewhere out there stranded. I think you stand under me if you don't understand it.

crustyjuggler ago

Excuse my lack of clarity. The edit was talking about Atko and/or thepower, not you. But I guess it can apply to anyone. It's a wild west out there, and it weighs down on some more than others.

k00dyk00ps ago

Excuse my lack of sobriety.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

well the truth will set us free... or get us arkancided....

our hosts allow all allowed speech. that's censorious. unallowed speech includes asking them questions about finances, about their disappearances and strange behaviors, about voat bugs, about the sjw cabal and them working with the cabal, and a few other things.

on your edit: atko went through war and being a pow. this breaking him?

voat is compromised in many ways today. i haven't left. the whole net is compromised. might as well go live in a cabin in the woods. or fucking head straight into this storm of bullshit and deal with it.

but that in no way means being silent about it. dealing with it starts with awareness.

k00dyk00ps ago

I'd rather be in a cabin, living my chemical romance, feeling euphoric and happy to be alive, then waging a mind war I don't want to be part of. I was gaslit my whole life, fuck society.

crustyjuggler ago

might as well go live in a cabin in the woods

Don't tempt me.

but that in no way means being silent about it. dealing with it starts with awareness.

True.

I do think that we have more to worry about with the influx of reddit refugee's. But we will see what happens.

Stay sharp fellow goat.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

ayyy assimilation is futile. the pizza goats will stay and the pizzedditors will go. each influx is similar.

i am the dark goat: ever vigilant; always ready.

you as well hot fuzz reference man.

k00dyk00ps ago

I read it all, friend. I noticed the difference in Atko & Putitout, as well as the disappearance. I've been lurking here for a long while before I decided I wanted to express my views. Now I take that back. Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them.

doginventer ago

The darker the sky the brighter the stars : )