How compromised is Voat? Honeypot? (AskVoat)

submitted ago by k00dyk00ps

Sure, your IP identifies you. Sure, most VPNs will comply with the US Government, and using a VPN in the first place makes you stand out. But what if you're a ghost on the interwebs. What if your lurk, educate yourself, and occasionally post anonymously. Having an account with a post history is a great way to get an idea of an individual's political views and ideologies; why make their job easier for them?

Am I wrong, or am I cuck? Is this WW2 and do I have to contribute to the motherland, one I don't believe in? Or is there something wrong with me fucking off into my own, personally created reality. Between Pizzagate, the mind games, the corruption, this shit is too much. The faith in the system I was raised to have is long gone. Does that put me on a list? I don't want to be a part of this system, I want to control my reality. Fuck society.

Fuck Making America Great Again, you can't revive a zombie.

postfascion ago

Are we speaking? Then we have free speech. Don't assume its gonna happen before it does. If totalitarian governments actually WORKED, then we'd still be living under the first one. There have been many and yet here we are. Don't count their chickens till they've hatched.

CeepsNo ago

Your demoralization strat needs work

k00dyk00ps ago

tune my strat for me so next time i give it a go 'round it sounds righteous brother man

pushthis ago

if anyone needs voat to know whats up then you need help:

We need industry, watch where your labor goes to and where your money goes. Drugs shouldnt be used to sustain normal activity. World events are important and i get it we need reliable reporting but at the end of the day if one isnt in the armed forces, isnt paying taxes, etc,, you are doing good. More americans need to be cognizant of what they endorse while realizing, not much is really needed to eat, be sheltered, have a decent knowlege of things.

k00dyk00ps ago

You need industry. You need money. Drugs shouldn't be used to sustain normal activity? Remove every nicotine, alcohol and caffeine product from the world over night. See what happens. I need a poppy plant, and a cannabis plant. And a house in the middle of no where. Fuck the world. It's my life.

pushthis ago

america has a service based economy. The way we make money mostly is by wiping peoples asses and the administrative functions of said wiping peoples asses. Is that narrow minded and funny yet descriptive enough for you?

I totally offended you for saying that drugs are an unnecessary crutch far beyond what people may realize.

e, just because you use drugs doesnt mean you have to lie to yourself and act like its totally medicinal. Weed is nice medicine i get that but for the sake of embetterment people shouldnt settle for terpene rich co2 concentrates via a quartz banger ice-o-later. Laughing and singing merry songs with mechanical hands to do everything for us realy only radiates pleasure for so long before it gets old, deludes those who cling or obsess overit/to it.

Your fuck the world mantra is far more fucked than anything i have said. It's your life and a world of shared experence.

k00dyk00ps ago

This thread has the most discussion on the front page of /v/AskVoat than almost all, and the least amount of likes. ok more people are interested in whether or not one sleeps naked or not, or what types of porn others are into. Makes absolute fukin sense.

k00dyk00ps ago

Bruh, why ain't my shit getting enough upvoats. I need some (((internet points))) (and discussion). @heygeorge hogging all my internet points, i cu.

k00dyk00ps ago

Your new account name is rad.

k00dyk00ps ago

There is no elsewhere. Humans are a virus. First it was Reddit, if not 4chan. 8chan is definitely feeling it. Voat is feeling it. End chan is all that's left imo and they're next.

You lost free speech a long time ago, hard pill to swallow. Have no credit? They can base it off your internet and phone usage. Police can check you threat rating, by scanning your social media posts, amongst other things. Where's your privacy? Where's your freedom? We already were took over.

Fuck this zombie, you can't save it. Escape to your own reality.

heygeorge ago

Oooohhhhhh ok! Cool. Sorry about your loss of movie night. I never participated, but I enjoyed seeing it around.

crustyjuggler ago

This was up for discussion a year or two ago. Here are the highlights:

  • The Bad: VOAT uses cloudflare. While cloudflare turns a blind eye to the worst of the web such as torrents and privacy, they may assist the NSA. Not much is really publicly known about this, except cloudflare's CDN does caching that can essentially log what goes on here. Don't tip off who you are, and don't use a username that they can trace back to you.
  • The Bad: Your ISP works against you no matter what you do. You should be using a log-free VPN service, like yesterday. https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/
  • The Good: We have some awesome hosts. /u/Atko and /u/PuttItOut are great fellas that take money out of their pockets to keep this ship afloat. Don't forget to donate.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

speech is not free on voat.

  • atko recently commented a little history. he made whoaverse as a safe space, and when all they racysis came in he "allowed" it.

  • free speech is a privilege given to you here on voat. it can be taken away. they reserve the right in the user agreement to remove your content and you at will. section 2 of the user agreement

  • there are major behavioral (voting commenting and posting) restriction on almost all new accounts (even ones that are months old!! example: restricting voting by participation and time: "you have x amount of ccp; participate more to get more ccp to be able to upvoat more!" "you have reached your comment quota. 10 comments in 24 hours.")

  • and there are behavioral restrictions on all accounts (no dv'ing past 7 days for example).

  • now, as well, there's self-censorship ala 75% shadowboxing here on voat and they plan on adding more!!!!

  • almost forgot that -ccp equals commenting restrictions as well; a form of site-wide user-curated censorship.

  • also, and this isn't a problem, but many subs are curated and not free to speak, for example v/niggers v/fatpeoplehate and the sub i mod v/til all have rules that can get your free speech deleted.

  • and also there's a fucking cabal of sjws currently taking over voat in v/protectvoat and v/soapboxbanhammer who currently talk to the admins offline, and code voat with them, and now we have the admins admitting that not all code to voat goes to git so it's not even ness. open source at any given moment. they go around downvoat brigading anyone speaking up in a way they don't like or on subjects they don't want talked about; they forum slide, they disinfo (i've had over 1000 hours of time dropped into shilling against me, attacking my character, etc, just against me by this very group for asking about making a canary, getting year old bugs fixed, asking what happened to the admins disappearing, and more). they are a form of censorship when they behave as a group this way against voat and voat goats. worse. the admins have joined in with the sjw cabal in shittalking and shilling against a number of users for speaking up about real voat problems. NOTE: the atko and puttitout from before the disappearance were nothing but transparent, friendly, and talkative. it's a 180 degree shift in personality, what i speak of here.

so fuck no

speech is not free here.

on voat: speech is a privilege, speech is curtailed, speech is curated, speech is restricted, speech is prevented, speech is undermined.

TLDR: it's freeze peach on voat, nigger. not free speech.

@k00dyk00ps worth a read

Thisismyvoatusername ago

The only problem I see in what you wrote concerns the speech issues in /v/til given how problematic the mod of that sub is.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

going for that sweet brigade upvoat honey?

Thisismyvoatusername ago

Naw, this ain't reddit. I just like to tease people when they make self-referential posts.

k00dyk00ps ago

Naw, this ain't reddit. Just reddit 2.0.

Give it 2-3 years. Maybe 1.

Thisismyvoatusername ago

Sadly, I think you're right.

k00dyk00ps ago

Thank you for confirming my feelings.

Thisismyvoatusername ago

I am all about affirmatory statements if it only requires me to do it anonymously on the Internet.

k00dyk00ps ago

AHHH inhale that freedom. Feels guuuuud.

crustyjuggler ago

Thanks for adding to the conversation. I think we had a similar discussion a while back with /u/thepower

For the most part, I thought OP was asking primarily about the NSA. I still don't see our hosts as completely censorious, but I agree with your points and the disappearance was strange for me as well.

EDIT: I think its important to note that constant death threats and negativity can change anyone from delightful to dim. Look at a ton of you-tubers who lose their minds looking at all of the negativity. Though, it is a safe bet to assume the worst with a potential take-over.

k00dyk00ps ago

Lose my mind? I lost my mind, it's somewhere out there stranded. I think you stand under me if you don't understand it.

crustyjuggler ago

Excuse my lack of clarity. The edit was talking about Atko and/or thepower, not you. But I guess it can apply to anyone. It's a wild west out there, and it weighs down on some more than others.

k00dyk00ps ago

Excuse my lack of sobriety.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

well the truth will set us free... or get us arkancided....

our hosts allow all allowed speech. that's censorious. unallowed speech includes asking them questions about finances, about their disappearances and strange behaviors, about voat bugs, about the sjw cabal and them working with the cabal, and a few other things.

on your edit: atko went through war and being a pow. this breaking him?

voat is compromised in many ways today. i haven't left. the whole net is compromised. might as well go live in a cabin in the woods. or fucking head straight into this storm of bullshit and deal with it.

but that in no way means being silent about it. dealing with it starts with awareness.

k00dyk00ps ago

I'd rather be in a cabin, living my chemical romance, feeling euphoric and happy to be alive, then waging a mind war I don't want to be part of. I was gaslit my whole life, fuck society.

crustyjuggler ago

might as well go live in a cabin in the woods

Don't tempt me.

but that in no way means being silent about it. dealing with it starts with awareness.

True.

I do think that we have more to worry about with the influx of reddit refugee's. But we will see what happens.

Stay sharp fellow goat.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

ayyy assimilation is futile. the pizza goats will stay and the pizzedditors will go. each influx is similar.

i am the dark goat: ever vigilant; always ready.

you as well hot fuzz reference man.

k00dyk00ps ago

I read it all, friend. I noticed the difference in Atko & Putitout, as well as the disappearance. I've been lurking here for a long while before I decided I wanted to express my views. Now I take that back. Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them.

doginventer ago

The darker the sky the brighter the stars : )

heygeorge ago

HS, what's your old main? For a friend. Well, actually a family member. My older brother.

k00dyk00ps ago

I'm curious too. I'm almost fucked up enough that I won't remember. I promise.

heygeorge ago

He straight up said it a few mins ago, take a look.

k00dyk00ps ago

Sorry, I was still in the past when he posted. Good news is, in the future, my liver metabolized more of my drink.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

lol yes and yes

  1. the internet is a honeypot

  2. voat is a honeypot.

  3. voat is currently being taken over by an organized cabal of sjws (pre-pizzagate).

  4. this is the final bastion of free speech on the internet for now.

edit: see my extended comment about voat's state of freeze peach here

heygeorge ago

With this mindset, then why not speak your mind? As the Trump candidacy has shown (and I think this is largely due to the openness of the Internet), there were so many things Trump said which would have historically just destroyed a campaign. When 'deviant' behavior becomes normalized, then we are winning.

I'll note that I don't mean deviant in the gross sense but more in the 'against thought police' sense.

k00dyk00ps ago

Why speak my mind; it only puts me in a category. On a list. I was really sick this morning, and I'm getting intoxicated af to compensate, but fuck it. I'd rather be a drug addict than a regular citizen in this society. Heroin epidemic? More like I want to escape and not participate anymore epidemic. I don't want to help save it - it's a lost battle. If you guys can win it, congrats.

Otherwise, until my body is rotting, this is my Earth. Fuck this shit.

heygeorge ago

So what if you're on a list? If we're all on the list then it no longer is a valuable statistical indicator. Apparently not participating also puts one on a list. Go figure!

k00dyk00ps ago

Not participating and doing me, living for myself, not this society, will bring me peace. I've lived for my society. I've been volunteering my spare time at a charity for a year now. I am the only one there who did not support either Trump, or Hillary. And I wasn't allowed to speak of it or I would be an outcast amongst the group. Fuck these political child molesting faggots, they deserve no space in my mind. It's my right. So fuck it. This is my life, freedom and liberty for all as long as you don't infringe on the rights of others, right?

heygeorge ago

Aye

k00dyk00ps ago

Thank you.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

i am the dark goat. the seeker of the truth. not because goats want this. but because goats need this.

p.s.

in no way does that mean don't use voat. use voat. use the internet. don't pretend it's safe. protect yourself.

the owner of this site has insinuated that i just go around telling people to leave. not the case. i seek truth. and happen to call voat home this past year.

i would hope to continue to do so, if it didn't keep slipping down the fucking slope! :(

k00dyk00ps ago

Speech that goes against the hive mind of this site, like reddit, is attacked. I answered my own question. We are compromised.

heygeorge ago

If enough of us band together to fling mud into the great all-seeing eye, then its power will be mitigated and eventually useless.

k00dyk00ps ago

I have a serious disease. I could die. I don't want to band together. If this Earth was worth saving, we wouldn't have to band together in the first place. Do not misunderstand; I've been in the pg investigation since it first started a month or so ago, and following the campaign trail for the last year. It's too much for me. If others can do it, and have the stomach for it, god bless them.

I do not believe in society anymore. I do not believe in this reality anymore. I want to control my own reality. I want to be my own God. I'm not super man. I'm a damaged human who is a victim of the system. Fuck saving it, it never saved me. In my personal reality, this shit isn't worth it.

If it is for you, and you believe this cancer is worth saving, may the God who wasn't there bless you. I also apologize for my vulgarity, I woke up sick with seizures and hour ago and am currently getting tipsy af to escape this shit.

heygeorge ago

We don't have to really 'band together' so much as make the Internet the free and honest reality we wish it to be, by really posting what's on our minds independently.

We could all die. How serious is your disease? What is it?

k00dyk00ps ago

Serious enough that if I hadn't been found by people, I would have died already. And I'm young. All 6 medications I've been through, no matter the dose or combination, haven't controlled my disease; I'm told I will need brain surgery or an implant in my neck for a "chance" at a palatable life, not even guaranteed to be a great one, and that's if the procedures work.

If you're interested, you can go through my post history at your leisure, I've discussed it.