QTDDTOT: Questions that don't deserve their own thread (8chan)

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QTDDTOT: Questions that don’t deserve their own thread

This is the thread for one-liner questions about /pol/-related topics. “What does /pol/ think of [x],” “is [x] redpilled,” and associated questions belong here. Threads created based on a single, simple question will be deleted. If your thread is deleted, come here and ask again. REMINDER TO SEARCH THE CATALOG FIRST.  

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16818007? ago

1)What do you say when someone tells you that race, racial differences and racial categories are arbitrary and can't be properly defined?

2)What do you say when someone tells you that culture isn't influenced by race?  

16819611? ago

race, racial differences and racial categories are arbitrary and can't be properly defined?

I show them the studies on genetics which prove that the five "races" of humanity are more genetically distant from one another than different species in the animal kingdom are. Pic related.

culture isn't influenced by race?

I talk about the concept of instinct, which mainstream "scientists" say doesn't apply to humans, but which magically applies to all other animals. Physical differences drive behavioral differences, simply because of the different range of behaviors afforded to those with different physical capabilities. Behavioral differences drive social differences, as groups which uniformly cannot perform X due to physical incapability will not form societies that include X.  

 

16825263? ago

Can you send your pieces on culture as well? And what about the FST of euros with other Caucasoids?  

16825262? ago

Anon, this info is amazing, but can you please send your sources? Also, people consider Asians, Americoids and Australasians to be all apart of the Mongoloid race.  

16825264? ago

Also, people consider Asians, Americoids and Australasians to be all apart of the Mongoloid race.

Sure, but they're wrong. The Americoid/Mongoloid distance is about the same as the black/white distance. Here's a chart of some loci showing relative distance.

source

Sure, I can pull some out. They're the red words in the book itself; I put them inline because I wanted the text to flow.

Humans can be genetically categorized into five racial groups, corresponding to traditional races.

http://pritchardlab.stanford.edu/publications/pdfs/RosenbergEtAl02.pdf

Genetic analysis "supports the traditional racial groups classification."

http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

"Human genetic variation is geographically structured" and corresponds with race.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15508000

Race can be determined via genetics with certainty for >99.8% of individuals.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15625622

http://www.genetics.org/content/genetics/105/3/767.full.pdf

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/12/human-genetic-variation-first.html

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018442X04700335

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3498939/

>>12810362

culture

Hmm, that's a bit long. How about this? It's not mine, but it's illuminating.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/05/morality-and-abstract-thinking/

the FST of euros with other Caucasoids

I happen to have a caucasoid-only FST map. You can see that all whites are really closely clustered, meanwhile there's another parallel big band (the arabs) and a smaller sphere (the jews). These are basically subspecies. I mentioned this earlier in the thread.  

 

16827312? ago

they're wrong

Not really.

The Inuit, Sammi, Mayano, Azteca, Malay, Mōʻī, Tongan, and Māori people, to name a few, are all genetic Mongolians, as they are on average about 2/3 East Asian and 1/3 Northeast European. The Abbos down under, Samoans, and some Southern Indians are examples of the Mongolian people mixing with Africans.

five racial groups

Nah. That's "color" theory. White, Yellow, Red, Brown, and Black. It's incorrect because color labels strip people of their ancestral heritage and cultural identity and, because the "Red" and "Brown" races are mixed-race.

There are only three "pure" landraces, seven total when you mix them, with Asians, Europeans, and Africans being the primary three. Every other race is a mix of these landraces and have become their own strains but are still traceable to their genetic origins. Obviously I am ignoring the prehistoric hominid types that made Europeans and Asians and such, for example, the Paleo-european and the Indo-european are the ancestors of the modern European; the more Southern (darker and softer) your features the more Indo- you are, and the more Northern (lighter and harder) your features the more Paleo- you are. Most of us are mixed from over 10,000 years when the ice sheets receded.

genetic variation is geographically structured and corresponds with race

Correct but it is race.

Race

  1. A landrace is a domesticated, locally adapted, traditional variety of a species of plant or animal that has developed over time, through adaptation to its natural and cultural environment of agriculture and pastoralism, and due to isolation from other populations of the species.

Origin

from Middle French 'race'

from Italian 'razza' = "breed", "lineage", "family"

FST map

Mostly meaningless because genetic type is more important. The Slavic people have more genetic similarity to the Sammi people than to Arabs but a spread chart will not show that. Also, people are genetically not "Italian" or "Ashkenazi" since these are modern concepts and in a spread map these two groups are the most spread since they are a diverse sample compared to a "Finn" or "Estonian"; it's simply not as accurate. Similar to the bar or pie graphs of dna groups that make people think they are a mix of all the things when the graphs show average for entire population sample; not all ruskies have asian dna, for example.

Thanks for the cool links !  

16828374? ago

Not really.

There are only three "pure" landraces, seven total when you mix them, with Asians, Europeans, and Africans being the primary three.

You were literally just proven wrong. There are five, by FST examination. The indioes have been on their own long enough to have developed into a new species, and the abbos are so fucking removed that they might be their own genus.

A landrace is a domesticated, locally adapted, traditional variety of a species

Not a race, then, by your own definition. They are not varieties of species; they are species in their own right, by genetic distance. There are races within species–subspecies–and those show up in humanity (capoids and congoids; whites, arabs, and jews; Japanese, Chinese, and southeast asians; etc.), but the overarching species themselves are not races.

The Slavic people have more genetic similarity to the Sammi people than to Arabs but a spread chart will not show that.

Wait, it shows that. What am I missing here?

Also, people are genetically not "Italian" or "Ashkenazi" since these are modern concepts

Oh, that's true enough, at least.  

 

16834476? ago

Is de Gobineau a good way to learn about race?