Reddit, 4chan, 8chan, 8kun, Voat, all of them centralised on an http website, all of them vulnerable to a single point of failure, all of them now closed. Goats should not keep repeating the same mistakes of history and should move to a distributed platform that is designed to resist the sort of censorship that is happening around the world and on http. That time is now.
Aether is released under the GPL, has been going for years and has already had its first wave of Goats arrive and start communities.
A web-browser is a client/application. Some people use an application for their email too, like Thunderbird. They might use an application for torrents. Another one for viewing video, like VLC. Maybe they have one for playing audio too. Computer games are applications.
A distinct advantage of using a GPL'd client to conduct discussion is that it gets around all the censorship and tracking crap on a web-browser.
Except browsers don't deplatform and require you to maintain your own fork.
It would be nice if you didn't pretend it's gonna be fine because we can just 'run our own', e.g. I remember Tox being a complete mess that no one talks about anymore.
The moderation system in Aether is transparent. If a mod wants to block a post, everybody will see their decision. You can impeach a mod you don't like, if there are sufficient, like minded people.
If you don't like the stuff happening in a subverse, you can create another one of your own, even one with the same name.
Have you turned your own attention to the next platform you would like to use instead of Voat? What are its major flaws? I think that by comparison with Aether, in balance and in the long run, Aether will prove the better choice.
Please, go ahead, publicly criticise your own choice. It will be helpful for other people making a decision.
Poal is my choice. It's not the best, it looks like shit they and have a different idea about downvotes, but is sure better than some application with its own protocol written by a guy in San Francisco of all places.
I don't buy the idea of "just create your own sub" and mods having the power to do more than the bare minimum. And the concept of impeaching makes no sense, who can impeach the mods? The people who are already banned? Are they also doing preemptive bans like on Ruqqus?
Aether is a p2p reddit as far as I'm concerned and the developer of any platform can lose interest the same way and the community will fragment regardless. (and no, none of the speculation so far is believable to me, he just lost interest).
Let us say you belong to /b/Cats, and keep posting images of catamarans, but the mod in /b/Cats wants you to stop or post pictures of pussys instead. You continue posting boats, the mod blocks you or removes your boat pictures. Justifiably upset, you use the impeachment mechanism to get rid of the mod. If enough other people feel the same, you or somebody else will become the new mod.
You can't get "thrown off" Aether, as the network is distributed. It is also anonymous. You can keep joining with the same name as a previous user or other existing users. There could be two /u/mikeniggers at once for example. It is very different from Reddit. I really think if you had a look at it, you would actually like it.
There are a ton of Goats over there now and the initial encounters between Goats and Aetherians are very fun to watch!
Well spotted! I didn't think about that, but it is a bit like reserving a username on IRC really. It is a way of contributing to the funding of Aether's development and also I suppose a status symbol, In two years of being on Aether, I have hardly seen anybody with such a reserved name, only the main developer really. It is not a big deal to be honest.
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tokui ago
Stay strong out there. Truths will recognize each other by free speech.
RiverWind ago
Aether
https://getaether.net
Reddit, 4chan, 8chan, 8kun, Voat, all of them centralised on an http website, all of them vulnerable to a single point of failure, all of them now closed. Goats should not keep repeating the same mistakes of history and should move to a distributed platform that is designed to resist the sort of censorship that is happening around the world and on http. That time is now.
Aether is released under the GPL, has been going for years and has already had its first wave of Goats arrive and start communities.
There is a thread about Aether here:
https://voat.co/v/whatever/4170305/26917432?context=10
Leveraction ago
Thanks. I'll check it out.
tokui ago
We don't use apps.
RiverWind ago
A web-browser is a client/application. Some people use an application for their email too, like Thunderbird. They might use an application for torrents. Another one for viewing video, like VLC. Maybe they have one for playing audio too. Computer games are applications.
A distinct advantage of using a GPL'd client to conduct discussion is that it gets around all the censorship and tracking crap on a web-browser.
mikenigger ago
Except browsers don't deplatform and require you to maintain your own fork.
It would be nice if you didn't pretend it's gonna be fine because we can just 'run our own', e.g. I remember Tox being a complete mess that no one talks about anymore.
RiverWind ago
The moderation system in Aether is transparent. If a mod wants to block a post, everybody will see their decision. You can impeach a mod you don't like, if there are sufficient, like minded people.
If you don't like the stuff happening in a subverse, you can create another one of your own, even one with the same name.
Have you turned your own attention to the next platform you would like to use instead of Voat? What are its major flaws? I think that by comparison with Aether, in balance and in the long run, Aether will prove the better choice.
Please, go ahead, publicly criticise your own choice. It will be helpful for other people making a decision.
mikenigger ago
Poal is my choice. It's not the best, it looks like shit they and have a different idea about downvotes, but is sure better than some application with its own protocol written by a guy in San Francisco of all places.
I don't buy the idea of "just create your own sub" and mods having the power to do more than the bare minimum. And the concept of impeaching makes no sense, who can impeach the mods? The people who are already banned? Are they also doing preemptive bans like on Ruqqus?
Aether is a p2p reddit as far as I'm concerned and the developer of any platform can lose interest the same way and the community will fragment regardless. (and no, none of the speculation so far is believable to me, he just lost interest).
RiverWind ago
Let us say you belong to /b/Cats, and keep posting images of catamarans, but the mod in /b/Cats wants you to stop or post pictures of pussys instead. You continue posting boats, the mod blocks you or removes your boat pictures. Justifiably upset, you use the impeachment mechanism to get rid of the mod. If enough other people feel the same, you or somebody else will become the new mod.
You can't get "thrown off" Aether, as the network is distributed. It is also anonymous. You can keep joining with the same name as a previous user or other existing users. There could be two /u/mikeniggers at once for example. It is very different from Reddit. I really think if you had a look at it, you would actually like it.
There are a ton of Goats over there now and the initial encounters between Goats and Aetherians are very fun to watch!
mikenigger ago
I'm checking it out right now, and the centralization is in your face:
Guess I'll have to settle on being a second-class citizen because McFaggot decided that way.
You don't understand what decentralized means, Aether is a meme.
RiverWind ago
Well spotted! I didn't think about that, but it is a bit like reserving a username on IRC really. It is a way of contributing to the funding of Aether's development and also I suppose a status symbol, In two years of being on Aether, I have hardly seen anybody with such a reserved name, only the main developer really. It is not a big deal to be honest.
Hipsterrr ago
I'll check this out, but it's likely that for the time being most goats will use multiple sources of gathering.
freespeechplease ago
Let's vote on our new home! I started a thread just now.
This Aether idea looks cool
Hipsterrr ago
submitted my 2c
tokui ago
it's a pc app
ruck_feddit ago
15% of goats, tops, are going to setup aether.