mudbear ago

Men and women deep down are animals, most of what we know of the opposite sex is twisted by the media, but once you understand both sexes deepest desires its easy to see through the bullshit.

If you want a good woman, you need to be a good man. If you want to be a good man, you need to provide what the woman needs.

Everything men and woman want from eachother boils down to reproduction. Men want a fertile and healthy mate, women want a virile and powerful mate.

What men want is fucking easy to achieve, we want pussy. we want pussy because thats where the eggs are, and we are stupid and direct with what we want, if we get pussy we win, we fertilize an egg and succeed in the game of procreation.

Women on the other hand NEED A LOT MORE than men, when you learn this their pickiness and bitchiness gets put into perspective.

Women who mate become pregnant, when they are pregnant they are practically useless. Look at everything from a caveman perspective, if a woman is pregnant and alone shes fucked, so she NEEDS a man who can provide for her while she is in that weakened state.

This is why women seem pathetic and needy, because they are, or will be if you succeed. When a woman is considering whether to partner up with you, she is considering what will happen with her children, how likely they will survive, whether they will eat good food, drink clean water, live in a good house and be disciplined by a good father. She thinks all of this without a single conscious thought, its implicit.

Also, its impossible to just 'be' confident without being a lying scumbag, confidence is something you earn, so go out and earn it.

Honestly, till you get your own house you shouldnt be looking at women, you dont deserve one. Get a house, no matter how small, and take care of it. If you can save for a house, buy a house and maintain a hosue, you are good enough for a woman and good enough to raise children, thats a given and that will cover nearly all your bases.

ex-feminist ago

i have a christian foundation but im not a christian. i was nabbed up by a non christian guy who was 27 when i was 26. we hold high esteem in spiritual and personal growth but dont worship a god. we will be investing and developing land on 88 acres of land in california where we will develop business that we plan will have a massive positive change on large communities. essentially, we will be accomplishing each others dreams. both of us want kids and the world to be a better place through action and investment.

im fairly self aware of my insanity as a female and have learned to control it for the most part, or at least direct it in a way that doesn't hurt others or make my spouse feel like shit all the time.

if im not one in a thousand females, any of you good gentlemen may experience good luck finding a mate with similar interests! if its somehow just 99 single ladies that are awful out of 100, it feels just as hopeless as 1 in a 1000. if you're easily tricked and seduced by bad woman, you're probably already discouraged as a man to look for a good woman. if you're a whore enough to sleep with 100 woman, you're as bad as a whore woman anyway and probably have issues that block your judgment. guys do love some of the woman they just wanted for sex. if you're determined enough to just date 100 woman, you've probably either had your heart broken and are having a difficult time in the scene or you have commitment issues, or now you're experienced in human behavior and interaction and finding 1 out of a 1000 or 100 should be much easier now!

using a 1000 out of 1 as an example of the impossibility of finding a mate, whether its true or not, is asinine logic meant to keep men feeling hopeless, heartbroken, sad and lonely. i hear some men talk this way, but i hear it mostly on VOAT, a honey pot for jews to discourage good and depressed from finding their mate, essentially insisting they must settle on less and heartbreak is innevitable.

maybe the chances of heartbreak and being taken advantage of is high in this society, but dont let reverse-psychology-jewish propaganda prevent you from finding what you seek. thats how you lost the vote against woman being able to vote. dont be discouraged from making a family and finding someone to love, otherwise you let the jews win.

dummythicc ago

Be a church going Christian.

More brainlet advice. Might as well read have an 80IQ and believe in fairytale shit as a fucking adult. I wish you christcucks could comprehend how little respect >80IQ people have for you.

ex-feminist ago

you know voat is a honey pot but i appreciate your verbose. i used to be a good christian girl, and i know alot of good christian girls who lost their shit and left the faith. being a christian woman doesnt prove anything, i know plenty of feminists in the christian community.

people of the faith, especially parents, misquote the bible they force their kid to study to hold power over them and get pissed off when the child uses the bible correctly gain control back over their lives.

dummythicc ago

TBH I'm glad it exists. Personally I consider it a character flaw and a red flag to avoid that person. You can't look at someone and just know they are a christfag but luckily the dumb motherfuckers usually have a crucifix, a fish on their car or a gaudy tattoo. (but but muh future trad wife can't have a tattoo!)

Also teaching your children skygod fables is child abuse. Your not punching your child in the body but instead punching them in the brain.

stoicmanchild ago

i disagree.

just avoid feminists or domineering types, i.e. A woman in traditional caregiving career...

if you are a strong minded man, in general you can find a woman who will remain tradwife if you assert and maintain your role as provider.

thr problem many men fall into, is putting looks or superficiality first. you will then be divorce raped simp.

look at her upbringing.

ex-feminist ago

i think the 1 in a 1000 argument, whether true or not, is coming from the Voat's TM honeypot dorks trying to discourage men from thinking positively about their future and woman.

BB-3 ago

Just find a fat chick who will do your laundry and cook for you.

ex-feminist ago

that can work if she's capable of self reflection and is seriously interested in self improvement, which is hard to determine in fatties. i think under a certain fatness level accompanied by a certain levels of fitness and determination can cause a woman to lose weight if a man provides for her and she cooks and cleans for him and doesnt hold a job.

i was 200ibs at one point taking birth control and performing a stressful job working crazy hours. i was 180 when i started dating my future husband and i dropped to 145 when i became a trad girlfriend.

i dont know of that actually working for most people. honestly, i never dated men who were overweight in fear of getting fatter so im a bit of a hypocrite. expecting someone to change just because you really want them to normally doesnt happen

RepostGhostCst2Cst ago

Dude right? Just be in the top 5 percent of men and vet 999 women out of 1000 and you'll be fine.

Get a career making 6 figures before you turn 25. Also have time to work out and keep those 6 pack abs. Make time to go to church while you're running your business. And bro! Be confident, dude.

It's not supposed to fucking be that hard. I'm leaving a 6 figure job. I'm leaving my social life behind. I'm leaving a home I've built of the last decade.

I'm done. I'm checking out. Let's see your report in 20 years when your wife is fucking her gym instructor and you're left with the alimony bill.

Kaczynski was right.

TheLesserApes ago

Work on yourself so you can get a girl that doesn't.

binrobinro ago

That's an awful lot of hoops to jump through.

Shadowlight ago

Of course both consent, but who has the most to gain short-term in the transaction and who has the most to lose?

Again, who is the primary decider in regards to sex between the quarterback and each of the numerous interested women?

Does Erkel the science student have a say?

ex-feminist ago

maybe if men didnt want woman to be so obstinate, you shouldnt have given them the right to vote, but now you're cucked and complaining because the white man wasnt strong enough to fight of the jewish influence used to manipulate woman.

i never heard it phrased the way Persiangovernment said but i whole heartedly agree. i have always hated the "lock and key" argument, finally persiangovernment put into words a fine counter argument, and i havnt read a clever retort from you to him yet. if woman are so easily impressionable, man up and dont be whores. live by example and stop being balckpilled about the nature of whores. the double standard is old you "stud"

Shadowlight ago

I agree with much of what you say, and it doesn't shock me that persian fled and another took his place.

In one phrase you speak of men being different than women (spiritual leadership), but in another you speak of inequality via doube standards.

It seems your ideology is confused and conflicted.

Why do you feel men must be the spiritual leaders while also men and women are not allowed to judge eachother differently?

ex-feminist ago

i think the way i explain myself sounds conflicted because im not the best at putting my thoughts into words. i understand the difference between men and woman, voat and my fiance who brought me here helped me come to terms with this and ive changed my thinking alot.

woman follow leaders, leaders lead by example, so dont be a whore man if you dont want whore woman. "do as i say, not as i do" sounds like "i as a man am a stud, but you must be a virgin until marriage" and will ensure the modern american woman will go back to listening to their empowering jewish propaganda because that image voat describes of a perfect woman is not most woman and not even an option many of them had presented to them.

the guy i lost my virginity to turned out to be a psychopath and i was raised by an emotionally disturbed single christian mother that married the occasional loser. im 27 now with a fiance and a child on the way with a positive future, but i dont fit the cookie cutter perfect woman description "based" voatians preach to eachother. i consider myself quite the catch, no tattoos, loyal, wants kids, family oriented, stay at home mom, inquisitive, capable of personal growth, self aware, and of European descent. but guys on voat are being told to avoid woman like me because woman like me have slept with multiple people, are not christian, have a skilled trade (feminism is popular in many christian communities), a little extra a fat (because of the stress of being a woman in the wrong field of work).

i lost alot of weight and got quite healthy when the burden of feminism was lifted from my shoulders

Shadowlight ago

You are presuming men and women are the same, desire the same, and respond to the same.

They do not.

Women would share a high value man and would not care about his notch count.

Men would date a feminine attractive girl and not give a shit if she ever went to college.

These are basic facts.

I think it is great that you have changed for the better, and that you are with a great man in a relationship and a growing family.

Still, it does nothing to change the facts I stated earlier.

ex-feminist ago

how you keep coming the conclusion in the first sentence boggles my mind as if my statements suggests i doesnt leave room for your following statements. the male and female brain and body work different and want different things, but they're both human and have a common goal. we've used culture and patriarchy to keep woman down to earth to give them some structure to tell their brains to want to be loyal wives, have kids, and care for the home husband and kids. this was possible because of large strong family units and communities, a shared burden and being surrounded by loyal friends and family to raise their kids and share their meals with made this ideal for alot of woman. european culture, how it adapted and changed in america, curbed the whorish apatite of woman because it offered something in exchange. large family units and strong communities used to be all the status a man needed to get a good woman.

where white woman started falling off the deepend is when white men lost the battle against the jews pushing for womans rights to vote. after that jews used woman as puppets to push their agenda, white men were losing their influence over their woman because jews controlled the narrative and offered them power through feminism (false/misleading promises) and hollywood influence. it undid alot of work our culture carefully cultivated into woman. when men lost most of their power over woman is when the "white picket fence american dream" popped up. this is very isolating to woman, it made all the normal day to day stuff woman didnt used to mind overwhelmingly awful because there was no one to share the experience with like there was in communities. except for holidays, parties, or hosting a guest, the woman only interacted with her husband and kids. some woman loved this! other woman would get edgy, and those woman listened to the propaganda on the TV which spoke louder to them at that point than the patriarchy and culture of her people, simply because she wasnt really experiencing any culture. being isolated with an individual can make a person weird, maybe husbands were on average more abusive at that point, or maybe woman are really impressionable and were being told they didnt like the life so they believed it.

my point is, woman and men want different things but they compromised with patriarchy and culture to achieve the best possible results to ensure the survival of the human race. but if you understand how something works you know how to fuck the system. the monkey wrench is jewish propaganda and "the white picket fence" dream, the propaganda that "it takes a village to raise a child" is somehow ludicrous and out of date.

want to stop woman from being whores? fix the culture, dont be a whore (woman are very impressionable), fix the laws and get into a community that holds woman accountable for being a whore.

Shadowlight ago

I completely agree with all of this.

And none of it negates what I said before.

That men and women want and desire different things from their partners.

The way to fix it is not with a sudden strike of sex by men, that will never happen.

Accountability must come and serve as lessons.....and of course eject the poisonous jew programming.

ex-feminist ago

until the culture in america changes and the desires of white guys is louder and more fruitful to woman than jewish promises/propaganda, both males and females will remain whores i guess.

Shadowlight ago

Unfortunately, for the reasons I just stated, this cannot happen until mass media is crushed or the jews are extricated.

Mass media mimics herd mentality which triggers the actions of those driven by social proof.

SubspaceDistortion ago

Just be a badass alpha male who appears to look like a good father, and choose wisely from what you attract.

Shadowlight ago

So who makes the decision on sex? Erkel? The Quarterback? Or the women chasing the quarterback?

Shadowlight ago

Why do you suppose women in high school choose to sleep with the quarterback playboy and not Erkel the science star?

xenoPsychologist ago

someone got her by 14 and now shes used goods.

TauCeti ago

Even if they do, their friends will be working hard as they can to change them.

Planetoftheclown ago

Protips if you are still under 25 and have a fucking shot

Don't be a chump and sell yourself short if you're over 25.....currently dating a 24yo, 20 years younger. Marriage is looking like a possibility.

fightknightHERO ago

Have either a 6 figure job

that's a mighty tall order, esp in these jew'ed times

GutterTrash ago

Well this does not feel inspiring

veteran88 ago

Mgtow is a kike scam to get nationalists to stop breeding.

RepostGhostCst2Cst ago

Mgtow is the response to feminism and the 19th amendment

veteran88 ago

That just happens to be in the interests of jewish supremacists that some want whites to breed.

Women adapt to their meme politics of they spend all their time with them. A lot can be pulled out of that world with a little effort. A woman would be much happier making a home than hanging out with angry dykes.

I have seen it happen a few times.

RepostGhostCst2Cst ago

Sorry. I work around too many divorced broken men. Make over 100k a year and are broke.

You can shove that status quo up your ass. Until the root of the problem is fixed, I'm taking my wealth, I'm taking my guns, and I'm going to have the smallest tex footprint possible without getting Waco'd. No one wants a real solution outside of "muh based wiafu..."

Fuck you. Fuck this new America. Ted Kaczynski was right all along. Suck my balls

Timur9000 ago

Move to Vietnam , philliippines like Anglin, or East Europe . Work remote.

veteran88 ago

Fuck off slave

The root of the problem is the Jewish lying press. They are the ones who are fucking up women.

parrygrin ago

Height doesn't matter because good women care little about shit like that.

Well, this is bullshit, so I guess take the rest with a grain of salt, kids.

Still probably not a good idea to waste your youth being a blackpilled little bitch.

greydragon ago

I fucking despise the hatred of women on this site.

At the same time, women should not be allowed to vote.

townblke ago

You can marry a female doctor/lawyer/dentist. No problem. They are almost unilaterally fucking crazy.

You could also go for the daughter of a businessman or some girl with a trust fund. Not necessarily crazy but they tend to have fucked more guys than you have met yourself.

onetwolefthook ago

One of the biggest problems for marrying a "modern woman" is that it's gambling whether or not she will want to leave her career for being a house wive or she will just neglect the kids lr throw them in day care. The extra money she brings might seem tempting, but I'm just not too sure it's worth the extra struggle. The kids never turn out good without at least one parent being around.

yewotm8 ago

Naturally "good" women exist, but the whole point of women is that all of them become good if the man is allowed to make them so. It is currently illegal to correct the misbehavior of our wives and daughters, and so we find the majority of men unable to do so.

Ezekiel_Balderdash ago

They're not worried about a "good woman", they're not finding a "good legal system".

townblke ago

Our legal system is very jewish and the more I've been involved in it (unfortunately) the more it reeks of jewish bullshit. Good point.

CrustyBeaver52 ago

Women, dogs, and horses.

Sinjin ago

Being raised in the church and in a six figure household with parents who are still together is a huge advantage in finding a mate. Don’t be that guy who was born on second and thinks he hit a triple by making it to third base. There’s lots of grim realities that you’ve been shielded from if that’s the case.

townblke ago

No I count my blessings, and I'm not saying I did it all myself. In fact, I'm pretty sure its impossible or very very difficult to get to the point where I am without starting in a good place.

knightwarrior41 ago

i personally would like a relationship with a woman but i understand now that this will never happen. i'm just ill and i dont any woman to carry this huge cross with me because it will destroy her.besides, i dont think that the type of women that i'm attracted to would be attracted to me anyways so am starting to make peace with that.

modern women are just terrible too.i have a next of kin that is married with a woman that its driving him insane and even i was told that she was negating him sex because of silly arguments and mood swings. no, screw that i dont want anybody in my life like that.i'd rather stay alone and deal with my issues without being bothered by somebody else.

at least am free to do what i want. its better to be alone than to be with bad company and moreso if you carrying an illness.

Phantom42 ago

My illness is a virus called Life. You've told me yours awhile ago. Wish there was a way I'd be able to make that shit disappear.

knightwarrior41 ago

Wish there was a way I'd be able to make that shit disappear.

we all want our personal heaven some people have it,others get hell instead.own your existence and deal with it without self pity...........as forrest gump said "life is like a box of chocolate and until you dont open it you dont know what are you going to get" or some shit like that.

capnflummox ago

"work out and be fit"...

This tired, old rhetoric... again... from an obvious fake account.

Fucking kikes.

townblke ago

Its not tired old rhetoric, its absolutely fucking true. Either work out in a gym, or bike or at a minimum take walks. If you look like a potato, no woman in her right mind will be attracted to you, especially not a good woman.

capnflummox ago

It's absolutely tired and old rhetoric. You don't know us. You have no idea what we are or what we look like. Yet here you are trying to tell us what to do, and you don't even have all the facts.

Shut the fuck up. Deal with your own problems. And most importantly, shut the fuck up, kike.

maaaxheadroom ago

Find a solid European woman and have kids with her. This isn’t hard. I think it’s funny you’re short.

townblke ago

Not short, not tall either. Just average. But I'm making a point that the women that obsess over height tend to have a princess complex.

Timur9000 ago

You’re a manlet by definition

Shadowlight ago

You seem obsessed with size....hmmmm

H3r0n ago

My wife dropped a dime last night while cleaning up the house. I shouted out “shekels!” and dove for the coin. She laughed for much longer than I expected her too. I married the right woman for me.

ex-feminist ago

i would laugh too. funny joke, enthusiastic follow through

WNwoman ago

See these are the kinds of games I want to play with my husband. He’s not quite there yet.

pnwpatriot97 ago

Fuckin' lol mate.

Mugman ago

I've met one before. She was a solid 10 who loved God, family and country. She was the prettiest girl i ever met who actually acted feminine (none of that bad bitch bs) id spend hours talking with her about mundane things. Then she started having seizures and had to leave school. I spoke with her after she left but she knew she was going to had to spend time in the hospital. We left on good terms. But it really made me reconsider the way I went about things. I'd continue my advances but she needs to be with family to get through what she's in. I know I'll see her again i just hope she's OK.

enormousatom ago

These people are more annoying than fucking shills. Everytime you have a logical thought, the unfuckable morons want to come point out that your happily married life is totally fucked simply because of your wife, who happens to be traditional lady with good morals and supports the fuck out of you.

Helena73 ago

Not one in a thousand. Not at all.

Dont wait for the perfect woman. She doesnt exist.

Go for high IQ. Do your kids a favor.

Analyze your dates psychologically—- look for loyalty.

Stay away from people that look “too good”— if they spend too much time on hair and makeup and clothes and nails, they are prostitutes who will expect to be paid to look good on your arm. You want a partner not a concubine.

I say dont forget the fatties. I know this wont go over well. But some fatties are undervalued on the market. They could be a “Best Value” kind of purchase.

Stop wasting time. The enemy wants you to be at war with women. Dont give them the satisfaction.

Dont expect them to be “Goat level” based either. I certainly wasnt 15 or 20 years ago. Trump voting will probably do. You can work with that.

Never underestimate the power of a compliment.

Good luck!

ex-feminist ago

pretty solid advice. may not suggest fatties as your first pick, but sometimes a little fat goes away with the right kind of enviroment, and sometimes you can control that, and they want you to control that. but its a slippery slope

townblke ago

Good tips, but perhaps you have a different idea of the dating market in the 20-30 than those in it right now. For the following criteria:

  • Virgin

  • Tattooless

  • Debt free

  • Intelligent

  • Not Crazy

  • Wants Kids

  • At least somewhat attractive

  • Very Loyal and Supportive

Statistics are very very grim. If you let go of 1 or 2 of those categories, the odds are better.

ex-feminist ago

not crazy? you mean self aware of her insanity and chose's not to project it onto her unsuspecting victims? woman insanity is somewhat hormone related crossed with the constant stream of generally negative memories. if she can figure out her feelings, why she's having them and what to do about it without hurting her friends, significant other or family, shes worth looking into.

the only way for you to possibly find a woman thats not crazy is to find a woman who grew up with the perfect family and environment. the government ensures no one has the proper human environment to cultivate a perfectly healthy mind.

blackguard19 ago

Lol, height doesn’t matter, keep telling yourself that.

asymptote_12 ago

I'm on the shorter side and there are few activities in which my height has ever been an issue, including dating. Sure I've heard "I don't date short guys" from girls my height and taller. These girls also seem to be superficial in other ways and never find anything worthwhile in any of their dates.

My brother, shorter than I, was dating a girl 15 inches taller than him in high school when I graduated. (She was 6'10" as a freshman, her brother a friend of mine played for the Suns).

CleftFootAmanita ago

The 25 year mark is a really good rule. It's so true. After that, with few exceptions, they are pretty much set in their ways of being feminist, party girls.

ex-feminist ago

maybe around 25. i knew when i was a kid i wanted to grow up to be a mom. i had a plan that by thirty i would have a career to fall back on with a husband and a child. the feminism i picked up on was fear based but i found out i didnt think of feminism the same way as alot of chicks, probably because i lived my life in a way that was always in the interest of my future husband. i was friends with my future husband around 24, but it was around 26 we started dating and now at 27 we've tied the knot and im pregnant with his kid!

25 might actually be a good base number, but under thirty works too if you understand her circumstance.

vaeax ago

that is complete bullshit. if someone has things figured out by 25 in this day and age they're either a cultist or precocious. people grow as they age.

men will spend their 20s masturbating, living with their parents, and playing videogames. for some of them, at some point they go "oh" and turn their life around. that's good. but then they hop onto the forums and say how they need a 20 year old debt free virgin with no tattoos. yeah, no chief. you get the 30+ woman who finally figured things out after as many mistakes as you.

also, any 18 year old "trad" girl has been brainwashed by your side. she doesn't know why she's trad and that's a recipe for a blowup later in life. the haggard old sluts in their late 20s, 30s, and 40s have already been tested in battle and know what being a stupid slut is like. they don't need to go back. the 18 year old trad girl is always going to wonder and some will break out and try it.

ex-feminist ago

how many guys does a girl have to fuck to be a slut. what number is too many relationships. ive been in several relationships and never cheated. im interested in what youre definition of a slut is because i hear alot of shit talking on Voat from random men.

how many woman does a man have to sleep with to be considered a slut. i've heard alot of men use the "lock and key" metaphor to justify being a whore while woman arent allowed to be.

vaeax ago

i'm not talking shit about sluts. some people get confused i speak positively about something in negative terms because of the contradiction in diction vs semantics. i really am saying that former sluts are some of the best women in terms of partner qualities (tho obviously a lot of it depends on the reason why they were a slut)

but to answer your question, a slut is a person who keeps having sex with strangers and casuals at the same rate as they would with their partner if they were in a committed relationship. and they're a huge slut if they actively avoid committed relationships because they prefer the aforementioned lifestyle to monogamy.

ex-feminist ago

thank you for answering my question. i was actually intrigued by your previous comment because you're the first person i heard on voat that had an unpopular opinion on what makes a woman valuable or a slut. until we take control back over our country, the "christian, innocent, uncrazy, virgin" dream seems like jewish honeypot blackpilling voat is so famous for now. i feel like most of your downvoats are from jews or blackpilled white guys that listen to "fellow white guys" too much on voat.

having left the church, it makes me cringe when people here say you "must be a christian to get a good christian girl". because that implies some sad blackpilled guy is going to join the church just to look for a mate. woman from the church arnt any less crazy on average than the ones outside the church! what church has a guy gone to thats so perfect that hes brazen enough to make such a statement?!

people on voat will say a woman whos slept with 7 guys is a slut and are unconcerned about the context of those relationships, then cry when they cant find a sane virgin when they've slept with 20+ people and are carrying around lifetimes of emotional baggage. this "guys are studs" culture on voat will ensure woman will continue down this path because between not having a good example to follow and the jewish media giving them power, woman will continue doing whatever they want

Shadowlight ago

Men don't create the "double standard" of slutdom, they just observe and recognize it.

Men and women value different things. Men value virginal women, women value high status men (who also tend to have many partners).

It really is that simple.

ex-feminist ago

im not saying that part isnt true, but woman being the inferior counterpart and open easily to suggestion means men have to act with more discipline, or else woman will follow the stronger influence, the jews and media that give them their power in the first place.

that is what i mean by double standard. you want woman to act a certain way but men are so discouraged by how jew propaganda effects themselves and their woman that they're not willing to lead, which white men must lead by example.

Shadowlight ago

Women are whores because the jew media teaches them to be and there are no consequences for it.

You will never be able to turn off the immense sexual drive of all men. This is why I asked who was the DECIDER of sex.

It is women, not men.

Men pursue sex, women are the decider.

Women pursue commitment, men are the decider.

You may as well boil the ocean as to try your method.

The only way forward now is through consequences. Whores must now retire as cat ladies. Jews need to have their filthy teaching ejected.

ex-feminist ago

from what you just said, it sounds like jews, their propaganda and their power over woman is the decider. all woman have the capacity to be whores, theyre very impressionable, and jewish feminist propaganda have the loudest voice.

"Men pursue sex, women are the decider.

Women pursue commitment, men are the decider."

you've created an equality conundrum. if men decide to commit, then woman wont have any reason to keep searching around based off that statement. but you think the actions of men are not what makes a woman a whore. the stud culture still perpetuates whores by that logic

Shadowlight ago

The woman has agency, SHE is the decider. The jews are the mass media influencer, trying to goad her into bad decisions.

You have made two statements in a row, both with the same theme. That women are not responsible for their decisions.

If the woman chose a more reliable man like Erkel the science major, she wouldn't need to sleep around in an always growing attempt at capturing the man they WANT.

You said it yourself in your last post, the man you lost your virginity to....was a poor choice.

ex-feminist ago

i used to give woman more credit for making their own choices but voat portrays them as completely incapable of independent thought and very open to suggestion. they follow the leader and the loudest voice that offers them the most power. how does that make her a responsible decider if jews are controlling the culture and woman are following it because jews are feeding their depraved human natures.

i made the choice to chose a scumbag because i didnt know he was one, because i was raised by a different kind of scumbag. i did not have a strong family unit, i had no friends, family or community to go to for help or guidance. i had no culture or patriarchy that brought any structure to my life without abuse with it. i was stuck in a mental hell, and i overcame it (ironically) by joining a union where i learned alot from grizzly old men and young guys alike. i learned structure, discipline, teamwork and developed a great empathy for men. my search for a husband, christian roots, desire to make good money and be taken serioiusly prevented me from being a whore. though i was assumed to be one for being in a male dominated field and was pursued alot, i considered the practice of self control and it taught me alot about human behavior.

fuck construction though! ill always have it as a way to make money if i need to but construction just sucks. my goal was to always find a guy who wanted a loyal stay at home wife who wanted kids. i know guys on voat complain about finding woman, but it can be hard to find a guy who has the same goal and big dreams. building a future with a guy is way cooler than

Shadowlight ago

Women are very capable of independent thought, but they crave social acceptance.

As a result they tend to be more herdlike. Ownership of the media gives the herd mentality whoch drives women.

Men are more lone wolves and independent thinkers, so it harder to do so.

However womem can think indepemdently, they just need to turn off the media so that they are not fooled by the fake herd.

Timur9000 ago

I know this is a troll, but enjoy stds, a worn out loose pussy, a girl that is rapidly declining in looks, unable to pair bond as well, and unreliable.

Men are better to import or better yet live somewhere else like Vietnam or Eastern Europe.

vaeax ago

stds

only black women have the STDs

worn out loose pussy

that's... that's not how it works at all

rapidly declining looks

if you're going to "pair bond" then this shouldn't matter. unless you're only planning on "pair bonding" for your 20s and then ignoring your 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s

unreliable

old sluts know what they want more than naive wannabe trads. old sluts are the most loyal women on the planet believe it or not

import

lol. that very very rarely works. the low-value men who import either 1) get a retard or 2) get a predator who destroys them. there is nearly zero chance for a "pair bond". the highest chance for a "pair bond" is with someone almost exactly your own age and background -- ie a young, hot, import has nothing in common with you and will despise you.

Shadowlight ago

Looks like we found a slut or a man that married a slut.

My experience is that young trad women are the moat loyal you can find. Unbelievably loyal. They really are the highest value women out there.

Timur9000 ago

only black women have the STDs

I didn’t realize being white confer resistance to stds, faggot.

that's... that's not how it works at all

Uh huh.

if you're going to "pair bond" then this shouldn't matter. unless you're only planning on "pair bonding" for your 20s and then ignoring your 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s

Women’s ability to pair bond declines exponentially after one partner.

old sluts know what they want more than naive wannabe trads. old sluts are the most loyal women on the planet believe it or not

How do you live with such a giant nose?

lol. that very very rarely works. the low-value men who import either 1) get a retard or 2) get a predator who destroys them. there is nearly zero chance for a "pair bond". the highest chance for a "pair bond" is with someone almost exactly your own age and background -- ie a young, hot, import has nothing in common with you and will despise you.

First learn about std risks divorce rates with non virgins before you try to persuade anyone schlomo.

vaeax ago

I didn’t realize being white confer resistance to stds, faggot.

https://www.cdc.gov/std/stats18/minorities.htm black women have between 5x and 10x the rate of STDs, especially bad and untreated ones that are more transmissible

Uh huh

if sex made women looser then married women would be the loosest of all since they have the most sex. looseness is based on a handful of factors, most dealing w/ muscle strength and childbirth issues. it's not at all based on the number of times someone has had sex

Women’s ability to pair bond declines exponentially after one partner

"exponentially" is the wrong word, but the jist is true. however you and nobody else on reddit is going to bag an 18 year old trad virgin true believer. your most realistic positive outcome is to find the ex sluts on voat who, like most voaters, turned conservative later in life.

How do you live with such a giant nose

someone's projecting

CleftFootAmanita ago

I never said they had life figured out. You started on a false premise, then ranted on it for several paragraphs. No one wants some washed up former slut in their 30's who is ready to settle down.

vaeax ago

No one wants some washed up former slut in their 30's who is ready to settle down.

"washed up former sluts in their 30s" are willing to settle for "nerds who masturbated and played videogames for their 20s". neither side is perfect and that's okay as long as both experienced growth to reach where they are now.

only rich studs who figured out life early get to have the "beautiful young debt-free virgins with no tattoos", and pretty much nobody on voat qualifies as either so talking about them is pointless. what's important is learning to "lower your standards" to the point of being realistic in order to spend a meaningful life with someone you cherish instead of sperging out over lost chances and ideology.

Timur9000 ago

This is all nonsense. A man simply has to go abroad or import.

You can enjoy being alone childless and play your games seeing as you clearly speak from personal experience, sodomite.

DeadFox ago

Ok Jew.

vaeax ago

nope. in fact we need more whites in finance because i don't fuck over people.

RedWolfTheAnimal ago

Met my current at 29 and she was 27. Very happy. We both took a little longer to figure things out but we agree it was for the best because now we can give each other our best selves

CleftFootAmanita ago

You found a diamond in the rough, not impossible, but improbable.

RedWolfTheAnimal ago

Im hoping so. Nothing in life is certain and everything is so fucked but im giving it my best try.

Helena73 ago

Ridiculous.

acheron2012 ago

As the meme goes:

Men prefer skinny debt free virgins without tattoos.

Preface this with there are ALWAYS exceptions. But “your particular case” almost certainly isn’t one of them!

You really don’t have to worry about women over 25. If they are still single they are hopeless for anything except deprogramming. MAYBE if they have not been to college this isn’t true. But you will be hard pressed to find a 25yo that hasn’t had 25 sexual partners.

Just remember statistically by the time she has had 5 partners the average woman is psychologically incapable of forming a permanent pair bonding.

Thankfully I don’t have ordeal of trying to find a girl. But if I did I would be looking at 18yo in a small town. I would never try to sift through 25,000 25yo for the ONE that MIGHT not be crazy.

olinneserpona ago

Just remember statistically by the time she has had 5 partners the average woman is psychologically incapable of forming a permanent pair bonding.

Do you have a source for this? I'm asking because I collect anti-feminist facts.

acheron2012 ago

DON’T Judge me! Even a broken clock is right twice a day (once in 24 hour time).

The statistic has been presented several times, I don’t have the root source atm. But first time I saw it was in a particularly sane video by Ben Shapiro.

olinneserpona ago

I'm not judging, that's why remarked what I needed it for so to not to come off as a "no sources? check mate" kind of guy.

Intrixina ago

Be a church going Christian. No non-christian good women exist.

Bullshit. I'm one and I don't follow organised religion claptrap - because it's rife for cuckery and infiltration by trash. I'm also married though, so...

ex-feminist ago

i was born into a christian family. my mom had me study the bible and i willfully went to church every sunday. in order to control me and keep me her emotional slave, she misquoted the bible. even though i could see it i couldnt do anything about it because i was a loving passive child.

my brother and sister left to live with my dad because they couldnt take her shit or live with her shitty new husband. im pretty sure my mothers attitude ensured they would never be christian, i thought i was better than them because i was christian. but the church was literally torture when i realized how many people were misusing the lords teaching, the pastor didnt practice what he preached and he only preached from prefabbed flashy sermons that was fluff and no real content.

my own studying of the bible made me resent my mother and the church for how they treated people. funny how the bible and how my mother treated me by her twisted interpretation of it made me quit the faith. i felt used and abused.

i got no tattoos, i went to a tradeschool and got a career, and now i got a fiance with a child on the way and i only have to do housework and be a mom. my dream come true.

saying only christian girls are good is very limiting to woman who were abused by the system.

townblke ago

How many kids do you have?

edgecrusher99 ago

Probably tatted-up with a body count, but she "isn't like the other girls."

townblke ago

That and:

"I'm perfect the way I am!"

"If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best!"

"What is my past dating life to you!?"

automatically applies a x0.80 modifier to any woman's score.

ex-feminist ago

what about woman who were abused by the christian faith and left it for their own self preservation but still hold their christian roots? i know plenty of useless feminist females of the faith who want it both ways. in my experience, a woman is just as likely to be useless as one who is god fearing.

i know christians are against tatoos, but ive seen woman of the faith with tatoos. i've seen countless woman not of the faith without tatoo's and in good shape. i see alot of gross fat ugly people in the faith.

it baffles me the level of honey potting going on on Voat. woman shaming to the point that you black pill men into thinking their only chance at finding love is through Christianity. tssk

Smokybubbles ago

The point is, it doesn't matter whether they exist or not. ALL women are empowered by the laws of the state to screw over all men anytime they so desire. You've signed a legally binding contract which does not enshrine the conditions of dissolution within it, trusting that either love will prevail or that the law will treat you fairly. Good fucking luck.

green_man ago

6 figure job at 25? The fuck do you do, military contractor?

13445123751 ago

"Or on your way to it"

Reading is hard isn't it? What this means is have some ambition, stop playing vidya and jerking yourself off like a monkey.

Sernie_Banders ago

Right? I was making 6 figures at 27 but that was because of 20 hours of OT a week.

green_man ago

I've done the 60 hour week thing, didn't make 6 figures from it because salary job. I did get lots of experience though which now gets me 6 figures.

Sernie_Banders ago

Yep, best way to set yourself up for later. I was just fortunate enough that I could do both at the same time.

townblke ago

Wouldn't you like to know?

green_man ago

Yes I would, 6 figures at that age is impressive and pretty much out of the reach of that age demographic. I would also like you to inform everyone at or under 25 how to make that much.

Phantom42 ago

Technically, it is very likely I'll be making 6 figures at 25.

Pharmacy is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

townblke ago

Personally, a job in programming + hardware software. Plus an absolutely massive amount of luck/God watching over me. By itself it doesn't quite get me into 6 figures but in addition I started my own business on the side and I used my first mortgage to purchase real estate big enough that I collect rental income from it too. I also live a fairly minimalist lifestyle. Nothing is purchased new, everything bought in bulk etc. Never took a vacation except my honeymoon. Luckily, also never got sick or seriously injured.

Not everyone can do it, but I didnt have that going for me when I started dating my wife. I was working two part time jobs that paid slightly better than minimum wage and going to school. But I had dreams and ambition and I shared them with her. So like I said in the post: "On your way to 6 figures".

thisgoyfux ago

Can you post next about buying lottery tickets? Seems to me like better odds, and a better use of my time.

townblke ago

Sure. My next post will be on lottery tickets.

thisgoyfux ago

Thanks man. When you get divorced and your unicorn takes half your wealth, can you post about your experiences there as well?

townblke ago

My wife has helped me generate my wealth and while I do make more money technically, she raises the children perfectly. She tries everyday just as hard as I do if not harder. You don't understand how good a unicorn is, dude.

Losing her would be at least ten times worse economically than half my assets.

thisgoyfux ago

There is no hard evidence or raw data available to support the idea that a religious woman will stay faithful or divorce less. The only sites that claim this are religiously-influenced, which they obviously have a vested interest in stating so. They'd say water wasn't wet if it brought more folks in.

Of course she helped generate your wealth, that way it's all the more easy for her to claim she had a right to it in court.

I personally think you have a case of confirmation bias.

townblke ago

Yeah, I'm sure the jews who are trying to destroy christianity, family, and monogamy are very happy to produce the statistics that show that christianity, family and monogamy are good. I'll take the thousands of years of tradition and the experience and faith of my ancestors over that jewish bullshit 9 times out of 10.

I'm not saying the law is right, in fact the law is very wrong in most cases, but in my case, A: I trust my wife just as much as I trust the brakes on my car and the beams in my house. B: Even if something happened to our relationship, she does deserve half of what we built just as I deserve half of what we built.

Bool2k ago

I have 2 separate friends who made over 6 figures at ~25. One's a data scientist and the other's a programmer. These weren't silicon valley jobs either.

You either start trade school at 16, find a very good mentor, and work hard towards your business and craft.

OR

You go to college, get a good bachelor's (engineering, programming, etc.), do an internship while in your 2nd year, and apply to "boring" jobs (i.e. not making video games or NASA related bullshit).

Timur9000 ago

Data scientist and programmers are bona fide beta cucks

green_man ago

Currently that job consists of "how do we manipulate the data that says kikes and niggers are the problem into white men are the real problem?" Fuck anyone that does that.

Bool2k ago

No? Cope more.

One's programming for some military contractor tech company making virtual tutorial demos. The other's a data scientist for another tech company working with radars (as far as I understood it). You don't need to apply to Faceberg or Twitter, it's not like those are the ONLY applications for a programmer.

Timur9000 ago

Programmers of any kind are beta cucks. Sorry buddy.

arthrax ago

Said on a website made by programmers, on a keyboard or phone made by programmers, on an internet infrastructure made by programmers.

Did you ever just consider the true fact that you are lower IQ than average?

Timur9000 ago

Chads use tech but get girls . Programmers are beta cucks autistic . It’s a low class field . Even though it can pay well girls prefer an attorney with more social proofing over autist nerd.

Did you ever just consider the true fact that you are lower IQ than average?

Cope more

arthrax ago

What makes a programmer automatically autistic or unable to get girls? You sound stupider the more you go on.

Timur9000 ago

It’s 99.9% beta cucks . You’re just salty probably bc a low staus incel programmer or a fat “trad wife.” Lol, get rekt faggot.

You sound stupider the more you go on.

No you.

arthrax ago

And here we have the end of your argument, where you have nothing left but your phony utterances. GG.

Also I am a programmer but none of those are true about me, and I probably have more muscle than you beta faggot.

Timur9000 ago

I correctly assumed you’re a triggered soylent developer. If I’m stupid then you must be retarded.

Sorry bud, maybe next life you won’t be born shit for brains and a cucked faggot.

Stay salty weeb. And no one cares you built a website or js app. Especially girls.

arthrax ago

Sorry Jew, I know better.

Shadowlight ago

I uaed to fvk those church girls when i was younger. They were 20-25 and they were huge whores.

But yeah not all of them. I know one guy who got a good one, sweet, pretty and a virgin.

Still, most are whores.

Helena73 ago

Still, most are whores

Like you, ya dirty whore.

Shadowlight ago

Nah, men are studs. Girls judge men by different standards.

Broc_Lia ago

Basically if you didn't scoop one up by 25, some alpha got her before you and you no longer have a chance.

Well shit.

Honestly at this point I'd settle for a 3 provided she's white and wants children.

onetwolefthook ago

Don't lose hope buddy. This guy puts emphasis on same age relationships but the truth is that there's new girls entering the market every year.

Broc_Lia ago

True.

The issue is population pyramids: Whites have aging pyramids, and women usually marry up, so there's more competition every year for men and less for women. I think it's a major part in how men have become less manly and started pandering more.

AfricanZionSafari ago

Have fun dragging your bitchy fat woman around the apocalypse. She will eat all your rations, make constant noise, break you shit, whine, nag, give up info to others readily, and then if you come across a group surviving better, she will sell you out and ditch you without a second thought.

Height doesn't matter because good women care little about shit like that.

SIMP CONFIRMED!

townblke ago

SIIIIIIMP

Timur9000 ago

Jokes on you your wife will cheat and divorce you. Oh you don’t think it’ll happen? Women are very clever.

townblke ago

No its not guaranteed she wont cheat and divorce me. However, we are both very devout and realize that divorce is a one way ticket to Hell.

So odds are good. And nothing in life is guaranteed except death.

xenoPsychologist ago

whats divorce got to do with it? being married simply doesnt stop them. divorce is apparently for if they get caught, then they have an exit where they take everything you own with them.

townblke ago

You are the one that mentioned divorce. Also cheating basically sends you to Hell too. Doing anything that could jeopardize a marriage, gambling, drug addiction, etc is a sin. We both took a vow to make the marriage work, and my word is solid and I have to believe her word is solid too.

I understand women are more fickle than men but I only have 30 years left to live so I think I'll be ok.

xenoPsychologist ago

thats not me, thats someone else who said that. i think i may have chimed in hastily without thinking through what i was meaning, so i could express it in an understandable manner.

at any rate, if im done going full potato for the day, i wish you good luck on that. since their character, no matter what it appears to be to those who are supposed to be able to trust them, is less reliable than luck.

hollywood2020 ago

if the word niggers is offensive, she's not the one

mmabouncer ago

So, in other words....... Be an Alpha.

Sunflowerz ago

My husband and I met in our early 20s. This may sound weird, but I knew he was super special when I helped him pack for a trip. I opened his tshirt drawer and all his shirts were perfectly folded and lined up. That little thing really solidified to me that he was organized and disciplined, two traits that are really important to me in a husband.

Broc_Lia ago

Thanks for the tip

ex-feminist ago

for sure, ive never met a guy who does this. a woman will appreciate a man who does this and will be more likely to do chores for him.

SIayfire122 ago

I was also recommended to put a lid on the bathroom trash. It's a very minor thing, but it shows attention to details and such.

Broc_Lia ago

Yep, and a liner in the bin: Women actually need to use that bin but men don't, so they're likely to forget.

ex-feminist ago

especially if they have pets. i have lids on my trashes to keep my dogs out of it, easy peasy house etiquette

Ducktalesooo000ooo ago

Luckily 5’6” bachelors over the age of 25 can still kill kikes and niggers huh?

That’s the scam isn’t it?

If you think you can solve the threat of the Kalergi plan via reproduction family and marriage, you won’t focus on murdering kikes.

Asshat12 ago

You have to do both.

Ducktalesooo000ooo ago

Yea but in terms of the rhetorical impact, what we’re viewing is just empathy tripping

Helena73 ago

You are not allowed to have kids DT

Phantom42 ago

Then neither am I because he's completely right.

When shit goes haywire I, and any others like me, will be the most effective because we will have nothing but the war to live for. That will be our sole purpose in life.

Don't be surprised when you hear about massive spikes in suicides after that. There's no reason for folks like us to stick around once you fucks who "made it" in life have your Reich. I hope you enjoy it.

Helena73 ago

DT ooo ooo ooo is not allowed to have kids because he is a sociopath, not because of his latest comment.

I dont know enough about you to make a declaration about your fitness as a parent. But I think you should perhaps rethink your decision to have a family. Even if you dont, I don’t view you as disposable, and I haven’t “made it”— most of us are struggling here and I believe in supporting each other not lashing out at each other.

I might even make you a sandwich if you’re nice.

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AlwaysBWhitePositive ago

Wait until the third date minimum to show your power level. It's not bad to have a power level but showing it right away is red flag.

Bullshit, first date just say the word 'niggers' in no context, just the word then stay silent. See what her reaction is.

Phantom42 ago

Weird it didn't pop up in my inbox that you tagged me.

ANYWAY...

That's a good way to never have a job or losing one real fucking quick.

AlwaysBWhitePositive ago

Yeah I saw your conversation in that v/4chan thread, that's why I tagged you.

ant_earth ago

Or you can say it with context so she doesn’t think you have tourettes

SurfinMindWaves ago

Nope, just shout it out at random intervals. Chicks love that.

High_Sierra_Trail ago

"Hey, I really like your .NIGGERS!"

greydragon ago

Da Bell Cerve prooved you dumbers than me nigga. Mothafucka, I shows you dis shit.

Monstrum ago

This nigger made me laugh out loud