Firstly, let me say, when I talk about “prepare for the boog”, etc., I am not advocating for any kind of conflict; just that you should be prepared for the chaos that will ensue during such a conflict.
Secondly, I apologize ahead of time if I accidentally recommend any (((Procter & Gamble))) or other shit brands.
Thirdly, this list isn’t even close to comprehensive. And, I am making some specific product recommendations based on my experience, but my intent is not to start a flame more about which products are best. These are just some recommendations for people who are just starting out, or for those who have prepped, as an ideas list to compare against.
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GUN STUFFS
Any gun is better than no gun, as long as it’s putting out at least 400 J of muscle energy (e.g. 9 mm +). If you’re planning on buying anything less (like a 380), I highly recommend watching some videos of robberies that involve shootings, etc. first.
- Glock 9mm (+ Magpul PMAGs, Glock mags suck)
- AR-15 (plus spare lower parts)
- Magpul QDM single point sling (a single point sling is an absolute necessity, if you plan to carry your rifle for miles e.g., into the woods, while also carrying a backpack and other stuff)
- Hornady Critical Defense 9mm ammo
- Fiocchi 9mm FMJ ammo (range + backup)
- Hornady Critical Defense .556 ammo
- Federal XM855 62gr .556 ammo (range + backup)
- Scalarworks LEAP/05 - Trijicon MRO Red Dot Bundle 1.57" height (this is the best tactical rifle sight for close ranges (100 yards max), you will be able to get on target instantly every time)
- Trijicon ACOG, any of the 4x options with their larger objective lens (for longer ranges, up to 200 yards, but expensive, this is the hands-down best option for close and medium range tactical use)
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FOOD
I recommend keeping at least six months worth of 1200 calories per day for everyone in your house / in your immediate care. I also recommend a diversity of foods, brands, etc., in case of issues with one or another.
- Augason Farms food buckets (lasts for decades)
- Peanut butter (cheap, loads of fat and protein, lasts a couple years)
- ER Bars from QuakeKare (compact for quick bug-out scenarios, lasts 5+ years)
- My patriot supply (have not tried, but my understanding is that they are very similar to Augason Farms. If you wanna support fellow right winger Vincent James of The Red Elephants, go to his branded version of the site: preparewithvincent.com and buy there)
- Canned tuna, chicken, etc., as long as it has at least a 2-year shelf life (good to help mix things up)
- Bags of rice and beans (cheap calories, shelf stable for years)
I also recommend purchasing mylar bags that you can easily seal with your wife’s iron. Even if you don’t have oxygen absorbers, putting foods in these bags will help enhance their shelf lives greatly (squeeze out all the air first), because once the oxygen in the bag is used up (oxidizing molecules in the food), there will be no more usable oxygen to further deteriorate the food.
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WATER
I recommend storing enough water for at least two months for your household at 50oz per day per person, in the event that you can’t even come out of your house. Don’t take your faucet for granted; that requires employees managing your local water filtration full-time, unless you happen to live in a rural area and have your own well.
- 5-gal jugs of water (cheap, the harder plastic is more shelf stable than throwaway bottles)
- some bottles (for bug-out scenarios)
- 1 Life Straw per person (they are cheap, each filters hundreds of gallons)
- 1 Sawyer Mini per person (also cheap, filters many times more gallons before worn out, but not quite as fine a filter)
- Water purification tablets
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WILDERNESS
Depending on where you’re at, there may be some good options for bugging out into the woods if you need to. Wilderness survival is more about knowledge than tools, but there are a boatload of tools that can help kickstart whatever kind of unfortunate adventure you are forced into. Also, keep in mind, I highly recommend purchasing all products made in the USA over Chinese shit any day, but the options are very limited and very expensive. If the goal is to survive and you can’t afford to buy a product, it’s no good. If you can afford it, buy all US made counterparts; they’ll last longer anyway.
- 5.11 Tactical All Missions Prime (great organization / pockets, MOLLE in and out, super high-quality, comfortable to carry on a long haul)
- High quality handle knife with some weight (e.g., Becker BK2, K-bar, etc.)
- Leatherman Wingman (the peak of Leatherman quality / value / configuration / compactness)
- Uberleben ferrocerium rod / fire starter (great quality, light thousands of fires, small, waterproof, etc. any brand will work, but you risk buying a junkie zinc ride that’s coated with a thin layer of ferro, unless you buy a brand you trust)
- UCO waterproof matches, couple packs (for quicker fires in a pinch)
- SOG Outdoor Survival Hatchet (light, cheap enough full tang so you won’t snap the handle, comes with a cheap ferro rod)
- Mylar space blankets, pack of 10 (these will keep you from getting too cold or too hot, they can be used to thermal / waterproof a shelter, and they can be used to hide heat from thermal vision, although they will be noticeable as a dark spot)
- a plastic tarp with many grommets (of course the larger the better, but beware they can take up a bit of space)
- 25lb test fishing monofilament 500+ yard roll (infinitely useful, including shelter making, trapping, etc.)
- 550 paracord (super strong, light, cheap, infinitely useful)
- titanium or stainless camp pot, preferably with folding handle(s) (collecting / boiling water, cooking, can put other things inside to save space)
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FIRST AID
Purchase the first aid kit I recommend below or another that comes with a decent soft case that zips, so that you can put all the other items recommended below into that same case and keep everything together.
- Swiss Safe 2-in-1 First Aid Kit (cheap, has the basics, comes with a nice, soft zipper case that you can add things to)
- Neosporin 1oz tube
- Adventure medical trauma pack (comes with quick clot and a rapid tourniquet band, etc.)
- CURAD Bloodstop 10-pack gauze (stop smaller bleeds quickly)
- HALO seals (for sealing stabs, gunshots that puncture your gut / chest and disallow your diaphragm from functioning... aka breathing)
- some gauze (rolls, not squares) and medical tape
- New-Skin liquid bandage (super necessary to avoid infections if you’re on the go, e.g., in the woods)
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BOOKS
- “Edible Wild Plants: A North American field guide to over 200 foods” by Thomas Elias
- “The Outdoor Survival Handbook” by Raymond Mears
- “SAS Survival Guide”
- Any other survival book that was written more than 15 years ago (a lot of the newer books are written by people with no real survival wisdom, became survival / prepping became a popular topic after the 2008 market crash)
CognitiveDissident5 ago
People should think about prescription meds they might need.
Also baking soda has a million and one uses, from cleaning to brushing your teeth.
fukyboi ago
Great suggestions; and I just added baking soda to the list - thanks
AcceptableWays ago
Just sharpened some stuff today and it occured to me that there is no sharpening implement on this list! A dull knife or hatchet is no good and can even be dangerous to use. Add a small sharpening stone or puck to the list maybe?
fukyboi ago
Ah good point, just added; thanks!
itssomatic ago
-Bronze Torq
-Woad
-Birthday Suit
Bottled_Tears ago
Here's another thing to add for food, learned about this a few years ago. It's a very desperate old method for making an easy food recipe that can be preserved for a while.
https://youtu.be/x_vLuMobHCI
Bottled_Tears ago
Recently did research on some of these items. I'll post them.
Found this really nice stainless steal pot for cooking.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B0038MQIA8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_yY7gFbP04V46F
Really awesome, well made foldable saw.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B01M08BZQG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_v07gFbDPF8P5R
Scandinavian axes seem to be the way to go. Lots of bushcraft and sruvavlists seemed to recommend them, just take care of them.
https://www.amazon.
com/dp/B000WIROX6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_b17gFb9DMG4YP
Great knife for carving and general all around use.
https://www.amazon.
com/dp/B00K70MLKK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_p27gFb2BJQ6VT
This watch seems very useful. I'm definitely going to get it soon. It has solar charging, temperature reading, altitude measuring, water resist, etc. Great for people who live in cold areas.
https://www.amazon.
com/dp/B00ENCRBO4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_O47gFbDHKRDCV
I like this leatherman multi tool because it is minimilastic and simple. I don't necessarily care for the 16 in 1 tools.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B07G7JRZQN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_567gFbQ5PEZKX
Water filter system.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B00G4V4IVQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Q87gFb45QY0WD
Foldable military shovel, easy to pack, very durable. Side are made for hacking wood. You don't want a multi shovel tool. Researched them deep because they look awesome. They all suck. No matter what price l. You're better off buying each tool of the multi separately bll, by far. But I love this shovel, just got it.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B001XUFRC2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Q97gFbGM9TWTQ
Nice winter gloves.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B00F1F1WR4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_Tc8gFbNEJSDDX
Always have a knife sharpener. Simple one by Lansky.
https://www.amazon.
com/dp/B0085PPSIQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_x.7gFbEVREQ4R
This thing is saved for last because it is my favorite tool. The kukri. Went camping recently and I love this thing. So many uses with it. Fine slicing, hacking like a hatchet, splitting wood, the thing is great.
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B0179PRLUU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ia8gFbFDHNDXY
fukyboi ago
Excellent, thanks for the list.
glassuser ago
I love a good kukri. I'm partial to a machete myself, partly because of tradition in my area, but a good kukri really impresses me.
Chingchongtingtong ago
One thing on the list and I know its stupid but it WILL save you and others from going stir crazy, some outlet for release. A book, some dice, notebook journal, cards , instrument etc.
superspathi ago
Comms gear. Get a ham radio license and get some familiarity with the equipment. Get a few different radios so that you can establish a comm net in your area with friends.
Optics. If you're in a boog scenario the seeing them before they see you is kind of a big deal.
glassuser ago
I said it once, you said it here, and it would do to be said a few more times. The day the flag goes up is not the day you want to start learning and testing your comm gear.
glassuser ago
I'd go with a UV-82 radio instead of a UV-5. There are a few technical details that made it seem better. Make sure you have enough that each group made from your local dependents has at least one - preferably one per person with a couple of spares. The antennas on mobile radios are junk. They're okay for the field, though you probably want to replace them with something better any way. But if you're in a mobile or fixed location (like your home) then you are going to want to run some efficient coax cable (50 ohm, not 75 ohm television/satellite coax) up to an elevated location like the top of the house or a tree and have a decent antenna. A mag-mount mobile antenna with a couple dozen feet of simple coax can help a lot in a house (but make sure you account for the ground plane, if the antenna requires it).
Also make sure you get an amateur operator and/or GMRS license so you can legally test, practice, and train outside of an emergency. An amateur license is cheap but only covers you. A GMRS license is a little more expensive, but covers everyone in your near-extended family (parents, grandparents, siblings, children, grandchildren, nieces/nephews).
You recommend some things (like the radio battery packs) that use AA batteries, and others that use CR123 batteries. There is a huge amount of value in having all of your emergency/prep gear use the same kinds of batteries. A UV-82 (and UV-5r) will run directly off two CR-123 cells (the battery packs are just two lipo cells). It can be better, in a pinch, to have everything run off n-S voltages (i.e. a single lipo/cr-123 cell, or multiples of them) so that if something goes really wrong you can just stick wires together to get some power.
Don't forget a small solar panel to trickle-charge these batteries. An exercise bicycle (or similar contraption) could also help charge things and get exercise, if you're cooped up in the house (but don't bet on using it much if you're on subsistence rations).
lanre ago
One thing to keep in mind is that the range advertised for radios is all bullshit, especially if you introduce hilly terrain and obstructions. The only decent radios I ever used were the Motorola brick radios or the Harris handhelds.
glassuser ago
The blister-pack radios are garbage. The programmable radios like the UV-82 are okay (thought he baofeng radios are on the crappy end of the decent spectrum). The Motorola brick radios and the like are very good, relatively, as you said.
And yes, the ranges quoted are the ideal maximum with line of sight. Point to point, down in the scrub, you're lucky to get half a mile. That's why I was talking about having an elevated higher quality antenna at a "base" station.
fukyboi ago
Thanks a ton for this info. I added your suggestion of UV-82. I also agree (re: batteries); I try to standardize entirely on 123a, but there are still a couple things using AA.
Reinhart ago
Saved
CanadianNatSoc ago
As for the tarp, make sure its polyethylene. The kind you would use for as a pool cover. Nothing will get through it.
fukyboi ago
Good point, added that.
Fuckoffniggerfaggot ago
Not a bad list. It's really up to each individual to tailor their kit to their expected needs.
I would add electrical tape. That is infinitely useful for me, from gear repairs to having used it for traps and as fishing line.
I had a big roll of fishing line, but replaced it with a tiny spool of 6lb tippets and some cheap flys.
I have one tactical flashlight, and a wind up flashlight in my bag.
I took apart my marpat tarp and sewed a mylar blanket in between the layers.
I bought a cheapo wireless motion detector from harbor freight, and wired up a pair of ear buds to the alarm speaker. I set it up overlooking my camp and it has saved me from a bear before.
I use an old style ilbe Marine pack, with the assault pack. ILBE is labeled 'oh shit', assault pack inside it is labeled 'screwed', the small bag inside with literal last ditch survival stuff(flare, pistol, snares, etc) is labeled 'totally fucked'. I can be fully combat capable with the main pack, I can still be combat effective with the assault pack, I can disappear fast with the totally fucked bag and have a chance of fighting another day.
glassuser ago
Good stuff.
fukyboi ago
Awesome, thanks, added 2 of those suggestions (electrical tape, motion detector).
Workingsteel ago
Black Beard Fire Starter. Works soaking wet with just a spark. I fucking love the stuff
fukyboi ago
Thanks, I added that.
Marsog ago
2 point sling not a one point.
One point sling is for kicking in doors and vehicles. Two points is optimal travel and shooting sling. There is a reason two point slings were the standard even back in the musket days.
Three point slings were a mistake. Ignore these unless you want to trip, get caught on branches, and look like a faggot.
fukyboi ago
Thanks. I added your suggestion.
Marsog ago
Very good list. Thanks for posting this
ribaldr ago
If one can maintain a home/house/basecamp, (stationary, that is rather than a roving scavenger), water filtration is key. Lifestraws are good as you say but are ideal for lightweight and mobile situations and are limited to just the one suck at a time. (I fill a nalgene with untreated water and lifestraw it out when in the elements.)
Stationary situation- the Berkey water filter. You can get filters and a spigot and rig two five gallon buckets (also essential survial gear!) to make a proper system. Passive, no moving parts, no electricty, and you can have a gallon or two purified on standy always. It filters phara poisons. Everything else is fucked if you don't have water.
glassuser ago
Bereky is good. Probably top of the line for anything any of us is likely to be able to afford. For long term sustainable filtering, you should look into a slow sand filter. Basically you pack an appropriate container with a small layer of gravel, a small layer of coarse sand, and a very thick layer of fine sand, and rig the outlet so that the water always stays above the top layer of the sand. More info (yes, CDC, but you can verify this data with lots of other sources): https://www.cdc.gov/safewater/sand-filtration.html
You can also post-filter with charcoal. It's not as effective by mass as activated carbon, but it will do in a pinch.
For longer long term filtration, look up filters made from rammed terra cotta mixed with rice hulls and coated with colloidal silver.
fukyboi ago
Thanks, I added that suggestion.
bellicoseowl ago
On the tarp. Check out higher quality square tarps online, you are looking for a 3x3 (meter) with sewn tabs for attachment points instead of grommets.
You will regret the rectangular Walmart tarp almost immediately. Grommets rip out. Fewer configurations to set up. Noisy. Huge even when folded down. Heavy.
When you buy the tarp look for one with at least one row of center tie out tabs as well as multiple tabs along each outside edge. DD Hammocks makes an excellent one, made in UK and about $100, but ultimately well worth it. Consider a 4x4 or multiple 3x3s if more than two adults and one school aged child.
And definitely get one of the mylar coated survival tarps as a ground cloth, it will serve you in multiple capacities.
fukyboi ago
I ordered and received a 4x4 DD camo tarp. Thanks again.
bellicoseowl ago
No problem, glad to help.
Artooweaboo ago
Why does no one think backpacking gear is useful for woods bug out? I can have nice ultralight system for <12-15 lbs for tent, pack, shelter, quilt, and bag and still carry a weeks worth of food plus hunting gear.
You also have to tune your kit to where you are.
fukyboi ago
TBH I do think backpacking gear is great for bug out, it’s just that it takes a lot of extra space, and if you are planning on potentially having to stay very long term (longer than a month or two), having only backpacking gear and food may not be as good of a long-term solution as having the basic tools to make your own shelter, etc.
Artooweaboo ago
I’d rather live in a good tent with sleeping pad and bag than a lean too. Think of people who do the CDT? Food you’d need to trap and hunt but at least with light gear you could follow animals and weather.
tony2shirts ago
I was gonna mention the backpack situation but you are right... its better to have the gear stashed in your house or another location you deem safe.
Here is a suggestion that I thought of a few years ago when I was beginning to prep... If you have to grab all your gear and leave, you should consider a suitcase or some type of rugged pull wagon. Then you can remove the strain from your back and toss everything in there. If you've never trained with a backpack on it really fucks with your balance and COG, makes you super slow to respond to threats also. You can have your gun on a sling or on top of the wagon and use it for cover if needed. Another option would be a bike with one of those "baby" trailers and retrofit it to carry all of your gear. Sure you stand out more but you can cover so much more ground and avoid injuries from carrying a heavy ass backpack.
M80TheMan ago
I’d add a flashlight/headlamp, compass, and a deck of playing cards. You have a very prepared list.
fukyboi ago
Thanks man, I just added flashlight and Compass, playing cards are a good idea also, but I wanted to keep the list more to just the necessities.
AcceptableWays ago
Some kind of red filter for the light source if possible to use it without losing your eyes adaption to darkness at night. Also no no to headlamp in combat situation, its putting a target on your head! A flashlight at least can be held to the side or on a stick or something and kept low near the ground...
Bottled_Tears ago
https://www.amazon
.com/dp/B07MDVDBGN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_9g8gFb0PYPR50
This one I recently used. It worked great. Has the red light option you mention.
AcceptableWays ago
Look nice but that 4x AAA is a turnoff for me... I prefer single AA or 18650.
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
SAS Guide has an app version as well.
AcceptableWays ago
For the wilderness section i would say less cheap mylar blanket... Get a 5x7 reflective tarp ¹ and a wool blanket ² instead.You choice of cutting tools are also less than ideal. Classic Ka Bar combat knife are not full tang, so either go with the BK-2 or a Mora Garberg. A small folding saw would also be very usefull, a Bahco laplander would be a good choice. A Silky Gomboy would be even better but its far easier to break the blade with user error. As for your hatchet choice... Just ditch that tacticool tomahawk and get a Fiskars X7.
For the first aid section there a lack of a good tourniquet in there. Elastic band tourniquet are not ideal, keep it as backup or second one but get something better like a North American Rescue CAT. Just beware of all the fake out there. A compression bandage like an 6" israeli bandage would also be a nice addition. Fuck you to the morons that will say some jews shill shit, that a real type of bandage.
Lastly i sugest you look up the five and ten Cs of survivability, it make up a good basis for outdoor gear kit.
I could go on but i think that enough of me now...
Originally wanted to use embedded link but apaprently that not allowed, so much for freespeech... So here the references:
¹ Arcturus Heavy Duty Survival Blanket, Insulated Thermal Reflective Tarp
² EKTOS 90% Wool Blanket, Heavy 4.0 lbs, Large 66"x90" Size
glassuser ago
Yep. You have good suggestions for dedicated equipment. I like to keep multiple instances of multi-task equipment. Something like a riggers belt is good for a field expedient tourniquet. Riggers belts are great to keep around. They're almost as versatile as cinch straps for general use, they are obviously a belt, they can help make a field expedient pack or support/repair an existing pack, and act as a tourniquet. Also, keep some quickclot and clotting gauze pads in your FAK. I always make sure to have some in my pack when I go hunting.
Just because they included something useful in their kit doesn't mean we should ignore it. You're on the money, some times we go overboard with calling shill.
Fuckoffniggerfaggot ago
I will take my kbar over any knife I've ever used. I have beat the ever loving shit out of it, drilled it, cut notches out of it, used it as an axe while I beat it with a hammer to split them, and it is my go to garden tool for digging stuff up for going on 10 years now.
Ken_bingo2 ago
I like my SRK Cold Steel Carbon V(TM). Got me through two tours. Quality knife. They don't make em with that quality steel anymore, but you can find them on ebay.
fukyboi ago
Awesome suggestions/additions. Thanks man. I did not even know of this insulated thermal tarp. That’s a great two in one solution. I have heard great things about the Laplander saw btw. I mentioned the K bar because I’ve had one for years and it’s good quality, but you’re right a large/heavy full tang knife is much better. I have a BK-2 and I kind of feel like it’s the best have you know if you can get, but I have also heard of people breaking the blade. I’m not sure if there is any truth to this or if it is just some FUD.
AcceptableWays ago
Well with my sugestion of ditching the tacticool tomahawk for a proper small hatchet, it can prevent abusive use of the knife for heavy batoning thus less chance of breaking it!
fukyboi ago
I edited the original post to include the thermal tarp and a hatchet, thanks again.
fukyboi ago
That’s true. BTW I know those SOG tomahawks are not the best hatchet replacement, but they are much lighter and more compact, if you’ve gotta be carrying tons of other stuff.
AcceptableWays ago
Well, the Amazon page for that SOG tomahawk say 19.5oz. I just weighted my X7 and the DIY PVC mask i made to replace the plastic shell it come in and it weight 23.6oz. Not that i go crazy chasing grams like UL people but i think 4oz is worth it.
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
I currently have on hand 2 cases of Arizona iced tea, and a half a case of Top Ramen Chicken Flavor
waringi ago
There are 7 billion people on the planet. Why does everyone think there will be plenty of good open spaces to bug out to? I live in the city, Im learning how to cook people. Why not help yourself when you win a fight? Plus, you have to fight to eat. Helps your side, instead of setting up a camp where your daughter wants to bring her black bf to and your wife wants to adopt a tar baby.
mmabouncer ago
You over-prepped.
StBlops2cel_is_Lord ago
It will all be gone by Monday anyway
glassuser ago
It will be a fun weekend though.
WhoFlungPoo1132 ago
I have no less than 15 cases of bottled water, 10 cases of Lysol wipes, and 1 pound of beans.
Get on my level...
TheMatrix ago
isn't the lysol factory next to wuhan? find an American version.
honk_atcha_boi ago
Only 1 lb of beans?
I have 30 cases of water, 10 cases of Lysol wipes + 1 case of Meijer brand wipes, 3 cases of febreze fabric and 3 cases of febreze air, 16 lbs of various beans, 30 lbs of rice, 9 months of premade+jarred/canned meals for 8 people, 40 lbs of tobacco + papers + rollers (for trading), and some ungodly number of dried vegetables from my garden. I also have a little under 2 years worth of firewood, assuming a 4hr fire is needed every night all year round.
I don't have enough meat. I need to learn how to dry/smoke/preserve more meats.
ribaldr ago
Having a stock of smoking tobacco to trade with is a great idea, hadn't thought of that..
glassuser ago
Don't forget alcohol. Get grain alcohol. It will sanitize surfaces and wounds, and you can trade it to alcoholics. You could drink it, but it tastes like ass. Just make sure you get food grade grain alcohol, not denatured alcohol.
honk_atcha_boi ago
Glad to be off assistance
Angryelectrician ago
End all wellfare.
honk_atcha_boi ago
I edited.
GoatFree ago
If you hunt you can can deer meat. Lasts for years we also can pork sausage. You can probably can most meats just need a pressure cooker and Mason jars.
honk_atcha_boi ago
Yeah I've got a bunch in the premades, but I just always feel like I need more
lord_nougat ago
OOG BOOG
Good list!
CheeBooga ago
yes yes buy me all the gear you want, goats.