This is the guy that owns the subverse you mod. This is him. The principles of PV were shown to have a Reddit origin, and here he is claiming he's going to keep attacking me after the users of GA have spoken.
This is the guy you wanted me to sit down and have a talk with.
The guy that thinks dragging another user's name through the mud will somehow give him leverage over me in order to keep me under his thumb.
Your leader is a bully. He's not a nice guy. He can't leave a subverse that declared its independence alone.
You abuse mod powers. And YOU had made a post against him. I figured you were running point on it. If you'd PMd me for help I would have given it.
"The subscribers never got off of reddit in their minds and now I am modding like it's reddit". Wow that was a fast conversation. Already voted and decided? Rush that through.
Look at the votes. What, are you waiting for BuilderAnon to come in and change them for you?
Bullshit.
I kept warning you. I kept trying to show you how you were wrong and how you were hurting Voat.
Pick one
I knew you wouldn't back down. I tried. I really, really did.
Really? Are you going to hide it?
You have no leg to stand on with it. They want you and your ilk gone.
I don't need to find other people. The mud dragging isn't over.
Yeah, I figured. You really don't have any morals. You'll do that just to spite whomever, just like zyklon does.
Says the guy who just appointed himself dictator of a major subverse. Alinsky's rules there? Accuse the enemy of what you're doing and hope no one notices? Were you a jew all along?
Back at you, mr. dictator of all mods of all subverses. Why don't you keep ESOTERICshade in play a little longer? Or was it Hojuruku that you forced the mods to not ban? There are so many of them, I forget.
To be honest I just have a problem with 2 of the rules you set up:
No forum sliding disruptive shilling: People attempting to forum slide and disrupt thus board may be banned, and/or have posts/comments removed.
No continually harassing users: Continually harassing users can get your post/comment removed and you possibly banned.
Comments should not be removed. They should be downvoted. The users engaging in harassment can be blocked by the rest of the community avoiding any ping on their future attempt to interact which allows them to move on. Deleting comments is not the right way to perform this, the users should be shown the right way to proceed. However I think you can consider the bans for those behaviors.
@argosciv the reason why I disagree with you that the current mod team will be objective in their management of the subverse as it is now and with the current rules they have set is because @Crensch has proven to go ahead and banned a bunch of people that didn't brake any sub rules at the time or never got any warning regarding the fault they had made (myself included). Now he wants to retroactively use these rules to justify his previous and future bans. This does look sketchy to say the least.
The bold lettering is the main problem I have with those rules, should that be removed then I think you can proceed. However the objectivity remains an issue because you have proven to not be. Anyone that you consider a shitposter or that you don't like has gone through your ban hammer. I mean you and @Molochhunter keep pushing the false narrative that @srayzie was doxxed by others and not herself. Please correct that record because it has nothing to do with what happened. As despicable as the behavior the users engaged on against her I think that the posts done by @PeaceSeeker is a good starting point to get this resolved for future references. For example a clarification on claiming "all is satire" doesn't hide the fact that the user may still take it differently and seriously and hence it does incite harm on the user, hence the user can be considered for a ban if the offence is repeated. But that needs to be discussed further and with the admin so the TOS is modified. I am all for it, but it can only be achieved through dialogue not your approach and the one your supporters have followed. I have always criticized your approach, not what you intent to achieve. The end doesn't justifies the means.
Users should also be able to post negative things about Trump and his relation with Israel so they are also informed about the synagogue of Satan that is part of the cabal that your sub specialises on.
Can we agree on this please? I am not asking for much and it shouldn't trump your own way to manage the sub.
I was almost going to bother responding to what you said to me, then I realized where your comment was made, and read the rest of said comment and it strongly reminded me of a particular someone.
I've seen you try to play this sage sort of role throughout this ordeal and at first it was refreshing but I've noticed repeatedly that you aren't really interested in dialogue, just pushing narratives. Blow me.
Well the implication you are making here is simply a way to try to attack the messenger and not what I am saying. But you will not be the last one to claim I have/or am an alt.
Personally when someone takes that path with me it makes me laugh.
just pushing narratives. Blow me.
What narratives am I pushing? Be specific or leave it as it is because your previous paragraph already showed your intent to attack my persona and not my argument.
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Crensch ago
@Peaceseeker @dismember @sguevar @bopper
This is the guy that owns the subverse you mod. This is him. The principles of PV were shown to have a Reddit origin, and here he is claiming he's going to keep attacking me after the users of GA have spoken.
This is the guy you wanted me to sit down and have a talk with.
The guy that thinks dragging another user's name through the mud will somehow give him leverage over me in order to keep me under his thumb.
Your leader is a bully. He's not a nice guy. He can't leave a subverse that declared its independence alone.
In /v/whatever.
Look at the votes. What, are you waiting for BuilderAnon to come in and change them for you?
I kept warning you. I kept trying to show you how you were wrong and how you were hurting Voat.
I knew you wouldn't back down. I tried. I really, really did.
You have no leg to stand on with it. They want you and your ilk gone.
Yeah, I figured. You really don't have any morals. You'll do that just to spite whomever, just like zyklon does.
Back at you, mr. dictator of all mods of all subverses. Why don't you keep ESOTERICshade in play a little longer? Or was it Hojuruku that you forced the mods to not ban? There are so many of them, I forget.
@Vindicator
sguevar ago
To be honest I just have a problem with 2 of the rules you set up:
No forum sliding disruptive shilling: People attempting to forum slide and disrupt thus board may be banned, and/or have posts/comments removed.
No continually harassing users: Continually harassing users can get your post/comment removed and you possibly banned.
Comments should not be removed. They should be downvoted. The users engaging in harassment can be blocked by the rest of the community avoiding any ping on their future attempt to interact which allows them to move on. Deleting comments is not the right way to perform this, the users should be shown the right way to proceed. However I think you can consider the bans for those behaviors.
@argosciv the reason why I disagree with you that the current mod team will be objective in their management of the subverse as it is now and with the current rules they have set is because @Crensch has proven to go ahead and banned a bunch of people that didn't brake any sub rules at the time or never got any warning regarding the fault they had made (myself included). Now he wants to retroactively use these rules to justify his previous and future bans. This does look sketchy to say the least.
The bold lettering is the main problem I have with those rules, should that be removed then I think you can proceed. However the objectivity remains an issue because you have proven to not be. Anyone that you consider a shitposter or that you don't like has gone through your ban hammer. I mean you and @Molochhunter keep pushing the false narrative that @srayzie was doxxed by others and not herself. Please correct that record because it has nothing to do with what happened. As despicable as the behavior the users engaged on against her I think that the posts done by @PeaceSeeker is a good starting point to get this resolved for future references. For example a clarification on claiming "all is satire" doesn't hide the fact that the user may still take it differently and seriously and hence it does incite harm on the user, hence the user can be considered for a ban if the offence is repeated. But that needs to be discussed further and with the admin so the TOS is modified. I am all for it, but it can only be achieved through dialogue not your approach and the one your supporters have followed. I have always criticized your approach, not what you intent to achieve. The end doesn't justifies the means.
Users should also be able to post negative things about Trump and his relation with Israel so they are also informed about the synagogue of Satan that is part of the cabal that your sub specialises on.
Can we agree on this please? I am not asking for much and it shouldn't trump your own way to manage the sub.
argosciv ago
I was almost going to bother responding to what you said to me, then I realized where your comment was made, and read the rest of said comment and it strongly reminded me of a particular someone.
I've seen you try to play this sage sort of role throughout this ordeal and at first it was refreshing but I've noticed repeatedly that you aren't really interested in dialogue, just pushing narratives. Blow me.
sguevar ago
Well the implication you are making here is simply a way to try to attack the messenger and not what I am saying. But you will not be the last one to claim I have/or am an alt.
Personally when someone takes that path with me it makes me laugh.
What narratives am I pushing? Be specific or leave it as it is because your previous paragraph already showed your intent to attack my persona and not my argument.