I don't know a single person who uses this word correctly. Sometimes it SOUNDS like people understand it when they talk about conspiracies without reeeeing, but I turn right around and hear those same people listening to someone else use the word incorrectly and never correct them.
This has been pissing me off for years as the dictionary doesn't even define the word using their definition. What winds up happening is it blocks off certain topics from being talked abkut becaise usage of these incorrect definitions causes certain concepts and ideas to become truly unintelligible to them. Literally DISABLING them, mentally.
Why are common words used incorrectly and for so long?
Edit:
If you weren't confused about what I was saying above you can skip reading all text below this sentence.
Some people are refuting the definitions I used (I think because they misread the post), so I'm going to copy and paste below my response to them and it should clear up any of that confusion.
Ok, "hidden agenda" was for brevity, the "group of people" part is always implied because it's not like your toaster and blender are going to conspire against the oven..
KIlerOfFreeTime ago
you are absolutely right
TheyLie ago
Perception limiter. Seems people are happy to have their perceptions limited to the mainstream
Tistime ago
Wish I could downvoat this more, English comprehension is not strong here.
JonReed ago
Know one hear nose wut ur taking about
i_yam_wat_i_yam ago
Shut up, conspiracy theorist!
https://www.corbettreport.com/shut-up-conspiracy-theorist/
MrShekelstein ago
cia/fbi niggers have been psy-oping for a long time trying to get people to believe the conspiracy means fake.
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
My way of introducing conspiracies always sets a pattern of known examples before I launch into own presentation of evidence.
You know why they don't have trolleys in LA? Remember standard Oil? You remember when the government poisoned prohibition alcohol? Remember when the government tested LSD as a truth serum? Remember the Manhattan Project?
Corporations and Governments did not give up consolidating power. In fact, the trend has only been toward more consolidation, except for the Internet and a few Republican controlled States.
We acknowledge the fact that corporations and governments commit crimes.
Did we vote on everything, or do certain people have to coordinate efforts to accomplish goals? Are all the details of this coordination made public?
We acknowledge that large organizations are made up of people who keep secrets.
You think they coincidentally stopped doing that at the point when these secrets are considered classified and the media can't publish them?
Drenki ago
A plan made in secret
Duchozz ago
(((CIA))) did that on purpose you know..
TheSeer ago
How did they ever convince people to start using paper money instead of precious metals? Perfect example of a spell, if you ever need one. And we do it because the previous generation says it is normal.
Goys-R-Us ago
This is by design. The CIA came up with the term conspiracy theory as a mental slide to prevent people from even THINKING about things. Say you're a conspiracy theorist about 9/11 and people will laugh at you. Then remind them the official story literally about a conspiracy and watch the cognitive dissonance radiate from their face.
Alhambra ago
one of the first things jews subvert when attacking a people/culture is the language. cut off the lines of communication.
EuropeanNationalist ago
An unspoken alignment.
Think the aliens in Invasion of the Body Snatchers had to have boardroom meetings? It was their common 'understanding'.
JonReed ago
I don't know your specific reference.
Unspoken alignments won't qualify though, those imply no deliberate action i.e. conspiring, merely coincidentally aligning interests or a cultural tendency
Tistime ago
C
Tistime ago
For someone complaining of incorrect word usage, you're on very thin ice because it doesn't mean hidden agenda.
JonReed ago
Read better.
Tistime ago
Comprehend better, you're still wrong; even with your addendum.
JonReed ago
Comprehend better
Ag47 ago
In 1967, the CIA Created the Label "Conspiracy Theorists" ... to Attack Anyone Who Challenges the "Official" Narrative
JonReed ago
I am aware of this.
What I'm really getting at is: people have the mental tools and resources to bypass this, and there's probably not a single person lacking these requirements (that isn't mentally disabled). So why are the majority of people walking around talking like morons? Without language, being a human degrades rapidly with respect to experience.
Ag47 ago
The link was more for anyone who might not have been aware, as I am in agreement with you. The way they have conditioned the masses to misuse/misunderstand the word "conspiracy" has also bothered me for quite some time. Another term they have brainwashed people to misapply is by calling our Constitutional Republic "our democracy." It's all conditioning and all by design.
redstarkachina ago
It's bc 'consipiracy' is a weaponized term, just an older version of 'fake news'. Using 'conspiracy theory' to describe an idea immediately throws anyone who represents that idea in with all the crazies and tin-foil hatters. It was needed to combat anyone on the scent of the JFK assassination. The term 'fake news' was used to combat anyone who was catching on the elite pedophile ring around HRC, the Podestas, and pizza gate in general. You can literally see on Google analytics how fake news was brought into usage at EXACTLY the same time as Pizzagate (tried to post link but says contain banned domains)
JonReed ago
Not trying to derail the conversation here, but years ago I did some research on the usage of the word "Holocaust" because of brother Nathanael's claim that the word Holocaust was never used when he was in Jew school in the 50s. I went over to googles word usage tools and saw that the word didn't start getting used until the exact time he said in his webcast, I think it was the 70s. I posted this info to voat before with screenshots
I mean there's definitely something up if he said that, didn't even reference Google's tool, I go there and find exactly what he said, post about it, then Google updates it's word usage to have it's usage skyrocket after ww2.... Totally doctored info
redstarkachina ago
the tool I was using was for search terms, idk how this could apply to items from before the internet era. But that is interesting to know that maybe google has some tools for this analysis from analyzing literature?
JonReed ago
The tool being used is from OCR scans of all books and other literature from centuries back
404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND ago
It means 2 people working together in private. It's incredibly common. The CIA did a real solid job at convincing people how uncommon 2 or more people have private conversations to better their position in the world (Tinfoil chemtrail wacko alert everyone!)
goatsandbros ago
For some reason, people started using the term "conspiracy" instead of "conspiracy theory." Part of the problem is right there. The other part comes from the CIA conflating "conspiracy theorist" with "nutcase."
shadow332 ago
Well (((wikipedia))) is wrong then, how shocking:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory
hankylanky ago
Well, you're an idiot. First of all, it doesn't mean "hidden agenda." That leaves out the crucial part of the definition -- "by a group." I don't know anyone who thinks it means "false story." In the context of "things idiots believe" (AKA Voat), the term "conspiracy THEORY" has the connotation of being a false story.
JonReed ago
Ok, "hidden agenda" was for brevity, the "group of people" part is always implied because it's not like your toaater and blender are going to conspire against the oven...
Your post seems to just be an angry rant in a direction that misses the point I'm making so I'm going to ignore it
hankylanky ago
You're not ignoring it very well.
JonReed ago
gay
TekJax ago
Literally corrected somebody at a bar about this the other day.
They said, "Oh, that's just a conspiracy theory." or something like that.
I asked somebody else in the bar what the definition of a conspiracy was and stroked my chin and going, "Huh, that's the definition?" and went on a sarcastic tirade.
ratsmack ago
A conspiracy theory is an unproven act of conspiring, since theories are generally unproven... and may be false.
JonReed ago
Unproven entails not known to be true or false therefore not a "false story"
I think we're in agreement
Womb_Raider ago
It’s closer in definition to collaborating with a group to make secret plots. The group aspect of the word is most important, to me. Our ‘leaders’ are working together in secret to destroy us. That is conspiracy.
JonReed ago
Ok, "hidden agenda* was for brevity, the "group of people" part is always implied because it's not like your toaater and blender are going to conspire against the oven...
Womb_Raider ago
Just wanted to elaborate to those with a limited vocabulary, my good man.
prairie ago
I thought that it meant that two or more people were conspiring (working together with a hidden agenda).
JonReed ago
Ok, "hidden agenda" was for brevity, the "group of people" part is always implied because it's not like your toaster and blender are going to conspire against the oven....
arniecuntingham ago
it does not mean "hidden agenda". a conspiracy is when people plan (CONSPIRE) to do something underhanded. if 2 people plan to kill someone, for example, they can be arrested and charged with "conspiracy to commit murder" even if they don't actually murder anyone. the conspiracy itself is a crime. as far as this word being applied to all the things conspiracy theorists apply it to, like the jfk assassination, there would have to be HUNDREDS of people cooperating with each other for it to work. this is why most conspiracy theories are wrong and idiotic. they are impractical and (if you believe them) done for the stupidest reason and in the most difficult way. as with jfk again, if Johnson or the cia or fbi or mafia etc. etc wanted to kill him, there are a million EASIER ways to go about it than "find a patsy, have 2 guys on the grassy knoll who REALLY do the shooting then after the patsy is arrested have ANOTHER patsy shoot him all of this on live tv in front of millions of people etc. etc. etc. etc. it's ABSURD. why not just POISON him?
JonReed ago
Ok, "hidden agenda" was for brevity, the "group of people" part is always implied because it's not like your toaster and blender are going to conspire against the oven..
celestial-skylord ago
You are mistaken to think their intention is honorable. Conspiracy (theory) for them is just a weapon to shut you down.
TestForScience ago
The term “Conspiracy Theory” was invented by the CIA in order to prevent disbelief of official government stories.
antistatist ago
Contemporary retards use 'conspiracy' as a abbreviation of 'conspiracy theory', so it's the same thing - a programmed mental shutdown trigger word.
antistatist ago
Contemporary retards use 'conspiracy' as a concatenation of 'conspiracy theory', so it's the same thing - a programmed mental shutdown trigger word.
knightwarrior41 ago
a conspiracy is an act of two or more people to commit evil.its just as simple as that
conspiracy theorist was a label invented by alphabet agencies to denigrate people who questions their govt .again,its as simple as that
TheSeer ago
"That's like, just a conspiracy, man"
QualityShitposter ago
what do you call it when they conspire to do good?
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
A conspiracy.
/u/knightwarrior41 is wrong, conspiracy does not imply good or evil intent, merely a group planning in secret.
QualityShitposter ago
Exactly.
POTUS and the military conspiring to MAGA is a good conspiracy. Niggers conspiring to block roads because muh reparations is a bad conspiracy.
knightwarrior41 ago
ok i stand corrected thank you
knightwarrior41 ago
idk you tell me.
QualityShitposter ago
A conspiracy, dumbass.
TheAntiZealot ago
A conspiracy is when two or more gather in secret to exact a plan.
It denotes neother good nore evil.
crazy_eyes ago
a plan
QualityShitposter ago
Your common core is showing...
crazy_eyes ago
you are making incorrect assumptions, projecting I presume
DIY-Guy ago
Conspiracy / Conspiracy Theory is a spectrum to me personally. Proven ones to Finland doesn't exist at all.
https://www.businessinsider.com/craziest-internet-conspiracy-theories-2017-11#2-jk-rowling-doesnt-actually-exist-2
3 - "Finland doesn't exist either"
It's complex / complicated alone to say the least to me.
Got any examples of people using it incorrectly?
JonReed ago
An example of someone using it incorrectly is when they wish to dismiss (deny) something, let's say like Bernie Sanders having lost the 2016 nomination because the DNC favored Hillary, and then they use the phrase "you're paranoid and dreaming up conspiracies". They're actually DENYING that it happened in one sentence, then they'll rephrase with the words paranoid and/or conspiracy... Even in instances like I mentioned above that have been proven and STILL have the hacked emails publicly displayed online.
And when I tell them that ^ they try upping the emotion and hammer the 'c' word again. ...like at this point in the conversation I feel like I'm talking to a broken record. They truly can't understand what's happening because their thought process is too far down the wrong mental path.
bubby963 ago
Seriously, to people conspiracy theory just means false crackpot theory and conspiracy means false story. No, conspiracy if conspiring to do something. Problem is the fucking kikes were so successful with spreading the completely ridiculous conspiracies to discredit all conspiracies that it cant be taken seriously now.
This is sadly easy to do due to how english as a language works, its very easy to change the meaning of words without people noticing. For example in Japanese conspiracy is 陰謀 which literally means hidden plot. Its very hard to change the meaning because the characters spell it. But in English sadly each character has no individually meaning so its fucking easy for kikes to control language to their whim.
TekJax ago
Yeah, when you point out actually harm done by vaccines and all the risks involved with injecting something foreign into your body without even seeing how they prepared/created it then they go, "FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!"
Probably what this shooter (Jared Lee Loughner) was talking about when he was saying people were trying to change and control language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner
And then surprise, we can go to jail now for not referring to somebody by a made up gender.
blackguard19 ago
Speaking of conspiracy theories, Jared Lee Loughner’s “shooting” was a ridiculous hoax, an entirely fake story. Gabby Gifford even fakes a vocal tick after the event for maximum sentimental value.
Her husband is a NASA astronaut. What else needs to be said? It was entirely fake just like almost every high-profile shooting.
TheSeer ago
NASA are a bunch of liars, the manned Moon landings were filmed in a studio, but the Earth is a globe, and there are photos of Earth from space, they are just composites (which disqualifies them instantly in the minds of any Flat Earther).
blackguard19 ago
If NASA are liars, and the moon landings are fake, then the first photo of earth from space was from a fake space mission circa 1970. Ever watch the NASA channel on tv? I do. They mention the word "global" like every ten words. Everything we think we know about space comes from NASA, which you just admitted are a bunch of liars. Also the Flat Earth topic is as heavily censored on the internet as Holocaust revisionism which should tell you a lot.
TheSeer ago
Nope, we've know the Earth is a globe since the time of the Egyptians and then Galileo (not to mention Columbus) proved it. For disinformation to work, SOME of what you say has to be true. That is why NASA talks about the globe. To build credibility, to then convince you of OTHER falsities. Flat Earth is not censored, it was promoted on Youtube for years. Maybe they have now scaled back that promotion, but it is a little late, after like 5 years of promoting it , to say it is being heavily censored.
I would hit dislike on every video that even mentioned flat earth, and never watch those channels again, and Youtube would still put flat earth videos in my AutoPlay. I would literally only watch videos by people that debunked flat earth, or don't mention it. And still it was promoted to me (and millions of others). That is where most of a guy like jeranism's views come from.
blackguard19 ago
Unfortunately I know you're not being truthful about that last part because I watch a lot of flat earth videos on Youtube and still in my feed the only things that show up are from mainstream science "debunking" flat earth. In fact anyone can disprove that themselves right now by Youtube searching for "flat earth" and realizing that all the results are anti-flat earth.
Go ahead, do it right now and see for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flat+earth
All results are anti-flat earth.
As for the Egyptians and Galileo, that's pretty ridiculous and also easily provably false. The Egyptians made no mention of any globe earth, period. They didn't even have a written language. Galileo was a Freemason himself..... don't know how you think he proved it since that's not even what mainstreamers claim. Maybe you're confusing him with Eratosthanes, whose (fabled) experiment was even admitted by Neil Tyson to not prove a globe earth since it only used two reference points and would also work on a flat earth with a local sun. Regardless, the "facts" of the solar system have been changed many times since then, even things as basic as the distance to the sun. So many "givens" rely on other "givens" which are based on philosophical rather than empirical claims. For example the mass of the earth was said to have been determined in someone's cowshed, using lead balls hanging from the ceiling, before the inventions of electric lights. Yes modern "scientists" actually believe this.
Bottom line, you've never observed the curvature or the motion of the earth and never will.
TheSeer ago
Freemasonry didn't even exist during Galileo's lifetime. LOL And calling my personal experience a lie? That is your argument? I know Youtube has now switched to promoting flat earth debunking, that wasn't my point. My point was that FOR YEARS they promoted it. That is literally where everyone who is a flat earther today BECAME a flat earther. And not by searching for flat earth videos, either. By being spoonfed those videos (or having the idea of flat earth introduced to them, in unrelated videos).
You are right I will never observe curvature or motion of the Earth! That shows how little your flat earth crusade matters. Let me ask you, what do you think is the significance of the Earth REALLY being flat, and us believing it is a globe?
blackguard19 ago
YouTube wasn't promoting Flat Earth back then any more than they were promoting Sandy Hook hoax conspiracy videos. It's just that they weren't yet maniacally trying to obscure and discredit them and they now are.
I don't think the flatness or rotundity of the earth is really that important and in my opinion the name "flat earth theory" is a huge misnomer because the important part of the concept isn't the shape of the earth but rather that the concept of "outer space," heliocentricity, and the Big Bang are all fictional constructs to hide the fact that humans and Earth are in fact the center of creation rather than insignificant specks in an endless void.
TheSeer ago
Glad to hear you have moved on from thinking the flatness or the sphericity of the Earth is of any importance.
TekJax ago
Antarctic Treaty and Operation Fishbowl ?
What?
Also, surprised somebody actually knew about Loughner.
I mention him a lot but don't get any responses.
Guys like him, Charles Manson, and Ted Kazinsky all seem like hyper intelligent people who call out and predict things that most people are unaware of.
But there are people in positions of power who can't have their authority challenged or threatened.
antistatist ago
This is why etymology is important.
(con = together) + (spire = breath) = conspire = breath together
QualityShitposter ago
There’s a reason TPTB pushed Latin (and basic vocabulary) out of schools.
Far2Long2 ago
Conspirare = to breathe together.
Eualos ago
It means secret plans
CatsControlTheEU ago
Not by accident I can assure you. One of the greatest tricks that was ever pulled was the mostly sucessful portrayal of anyone who ever questioned anything as a lunatic.
It's in tv shows, movies, books, plays and even commonoy misused to denegrate someone in everyday conversation or debate. The second many people even hear the word 'conspiracy' their brain shuts off. You could have all the evidence in the world and an impeccable argument but the second someone says 'its a conspiracy theory' they will just ignore everything, no matter how reasonable.
Thorne14 ago
Yep. If Newton were alive today Gravity would be considered some crazy alt-right conspiracy theory.
SelectAllImagesWith ago
completely true, although it goes against this post, I try to explain that there are lots more liars in the world. You say conspiracy theory, I say lies. After all a conspiracy is a deceit and therefore another, more sly, way of lying.
Goys-R-Us ago
Exactly. I said essentially the same thing before reading your post.
BushChuck ago
"Conspiracy Theory" didn't come into usage until just after the JFK coup.
justregtoasku ago
Like ' conchis'. Derogatory term pushed by press in uk ww2 to label those who questioned war Conchis = conscientious objector (to war). Had idiot sheep yelling conchis to those who questioned more wars
SelectAllImagesWith ago
wow, that really is an eye opener. This was massively used in the UK. I am thinking of the book the Screwtape Letters, by C.S. Lewis, which is a great read.
Dogsoldiertoo ago
Operation Mockingbird, CIA controlled media.
TheTrigger ago
And what event did "fake news" follow? This is part-and-parcel glownigger behavior.
justregtoasku ago
Hand forced to release 'fake news' ? Losing the narrative a bit i mean
TheSeer ago
Pizzagate.
Dogsoldiertoo ago
Fake news was present in Thomas Jefferson's day. He often railed against the press and it's lies. Here are just a few:
iLuvJews ago
Interesting.
MaxVonOppenheim ago
Which can be a beautiful thing if you just point out that "The Patriarchy", "white privilege", "cops looking for blacks to put in jail", "Afrocentrism", and "The Holocaust"™ are all just conspiracy theories.
Goys-R-Us ago
brown paper bag test?
Neil_Kiggers ago
wiki:
Many churches, fraternities, and nightclubs used the "brown paper bag" principle as a test for entrance. People at these organizations would take a brown paper bag and hold it against a person's skin. If a person was lighter than the bag, he or she was admitted.
Goys-R-Us ago
Thanks. I use white paper bags. It's an exclusive club.
vtusr2 ago
And (((JEWS))) are behind all conspiracies. They even like to brag about it over at the qresearch 8chan board. Also, wanted to remind real users of the following.
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/3208705
The tech is very real and the more people that know about it, the better. They are of course also hiding other advanced tech...
shadow332 ago
https://imgtc.com/sTCUwxn
Glipglup ago
You are literally part of the problem.
Chad88 ago
When the word "conspiracy" is itself a conspiracy.
Kalergi ago
niggeritis
TheTrigger ago
glowception