Wrong, hitler did not like slavs. It actually cost him the war, as he refused an offer from a russian general to raise a 3 million man army to fight the bolsheviks.
I actually misused the term there. I meant that a concentration camp in a country that’s starving will have a ton of deaths no matter what. That also jives with the anecdotes I hear from grandma.
The fact is, we DO have measurements for the graves. Three of them from three eyewitnesses. Yankel Wiernik said that there were five mass graves that measured 10X25X50 meters. Too few to contain 700,000+ cadavers. The Hoefle telegram said that 713,555 Jews were sent to Treblinka by December 31, 1942. Chil Rajchman said that the graves measured 12X30X50 meters and that there were eleven graves. Four of those graves were larger than 12X30X50 meters with at least one of the larger graves capable of containing 250,000 cadavers. Rothstein said that the graves measured 6X15X120 meters. Take your pick. Curious how the eyewitnesses couldn't even get the size or number of graves to match.
Furthermore, the graves were supposedly dug with a M&H model B dragline equipped with a clamshell bucket and a ~35 foot boom. Since a 35 foot boom with a clamshell could stockpile no higher than 5-6 meters, the stockpile of dirt from even Wiernik's graves would have been about four kilometers long.
That's just for openers. We haven't gotten to the hermetically sealed brick gas chamber and the magic Jew barbeque yet.
FUCK YOU IM THE JEWISH SHAPESHIFTER. HOW DARE YOU NOT MENTION MY NAME, YOU WILL RESPECT ME, YOU WILL RUN YOUR FINGER THROUGH MY HAIR CURLS AND TELL ME YOU LOVE ME.
Good analysis. I'm just open to talking about it, man. I figured it would be valuable to have a perspective of a non-Jew who had relatives in camps and can relay some of their stories.
I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but the all-is-fake story makes no sense to me. I don't know if you subscribe to it, I'm guessing some on here do.
My point of view, and it's outlined in the long post, is that even if you just set up internment and work camps, they'll turn into a death camp simply by running out of food as you lose the war. That seems to be my grandma's experience. Staggering numbers of dead are no surprise even if you're not trying to kill them. I mean didn't the flu at the end of WW1 kill more than the war?
even if you just set up internment and work camps, they'll turn into a death camp simply by running out of food as you lose the war.
That's not how it works. The whole of Germany starved.. work camp or not. A death camp as we were educated to believe is a specific place set up to exterminate large amounts of people. The fact is that these were myths. Saying just because after the war people died in the work camps so they were death camps is asinine.
Forget how many have been found, where are all the Jewish groups spending their hard earned shekels attempting to find more of the mass graves? Seems to me there would be some sort of movement to find the remains and bring them to Israel.
I know it's pretty amazing odds. Especially from both sides of the family. I had no clue how unusual this was until recently. I wonder if the odds are better for Serbs, I haven't looked into the numbers.
Just to play Devil's Advocate, not all people who accept the Holocaust are Jews.
I didn't believe the Holocaust was bullshit when I first came to Voat, due to being conditioned my whole life. It wasn't until I watched "One Third of the Holocaust" that I realized the possibility that the Holocaust (as we are told) is total bullshit.
True, bc it has been beaten into their heads by Jews (and other Zionists) on an almost daily basis for decades. Go over to Reddit and try to go a single day without mention of "literally Hitler" or the Holocaust on the front page.
Ha ha ha this is hilarious, have an upvote for making me famous.
Let me post it here again:
Grandma who was in Auschwitz is 100% Serbian. Her older brother was a communist Partisan guerrilla, and she was either helping them, or was just brought in for questioning and acted like a spiteful young Serb in the interrogation and got sent off to jail then a local camp then Auschwitz then a light bulb factory somewhere in Germany.
Great-grandpa (from the other side) was half Swiss half Serb, and a retired army Major. He got picked up by chance as an officer POW and sent to Mauthausen Oflag.
I'm 1/8 Swiss 7/8 Serb. 0% Jew and I have the foreskin to prove it.
Or a Jew who knows he can't outright come out in support of the holocaust on Voat.
Except nothing in the post reinforces the "death camp" narrative except for "I always assumed the ashes gramma mentioned were the bodies of dead jews". The personal anecdotes are about labor camps, which is not something that is in dispute.
oy vey the holohoax was real(in my mind). Us survivors must relive the memories ery day. Every time I go to a theme park the roller coasters trigger me and make me rememba the 6 million times I was on the holocoaster of death. It was a shoah. Luckily some wolves saved me. Shaloms™✡️🇮🇱
This sounds more like a guy struggling to find a middle ground between what he was taught and what he has since learned than one who is trying to protect the narrative. A personal anecdote from grandma about spreading ashes that grandma assumed were from the bodies of prisoners killed by her captors is pretty meaningless and does nothing to support his assumption that there were still millions killed. If he were worried about defending the narrative he'd come up with something better than that.
Not only Jews were interned. Gypsies homosexuals traitors anti nazis and bolsheviks americans British polish russians and blacks all were interned. The only jews meme is used to inflate numbers. Most jews were sent to Israel or moved to america before the death camps even started.
The vast, vast majority of people who died in the camps were Russians. Hitler hated the slavs. Russians got sent to concentration camps, not POW camps (POW camps were used for brits/Americans/etc).
I mean you can check but mass graves and killings happened before the end of the war and after. Ww2 was a protestant kill off. And nothing but a war for the pope.
The mass graves were from the Holodomor, Christians killed by the Jews. The people in the German camps died from starvation or typhus, just as the people outside the camps were doing
I am currently in a place where I can not view and listen to a video. But the facts are facts. No gas chambers. No orders to exterminate. No mass graves.
CantDentTheBrent ago
And now he's back pinging me with bullshit proof
Oveass ago
And smell
Oveass ago
The next hazing theme for newcomers. Assume everyone a Jew until picture proof otherwise.
Foreskin or gtfo.
This is gonna start a black market for dick picks with marker on them.
MDEneverdies1488 ago
Who gives a fuck if someone believes that shit? It certainly isn't worth making a post about
jthun2 ago
Wrong, hitler did not like slavs. It actually cost him the war, as he refused an offer from a russian general to raise a 3 million man army to fight the bolsheviks.
ShakklezthaKlown ago
they can be white. they are a race within a race.
iLuvJews ago
Eh hem.
We prefer to be called Crypto-Jews.
1812-was-not-a-tie ago
I actually misused the term there. I meant that a concentration camp in a country that’s starving will have a ton of deaths no matter what. That also jives with the anecdotes I hear from grandma.
Laurentius_the_pyro ago
Your second link is claiming that there were gas chambers...
ShakklezthaKlown ago
jews can be white, they are a race within a race. they can be white but they will always identify as jewish, unless a moment calls for shifting.
Koyote210 ago
no such thing g as a shapeshifter... Jews are white, they are not black, they are not brown. they are white
ShitPostMcGee ago
What about Lenny Kravitz?
lord_nougat ago
Or Sammy Davis Jr?
clamhurt_legbeard ago
i love the pink
VetGoat84 ago
I'm starting to think @nosebergshecklestien might be a little Jewish on his mother's side. But I don't want to sound anti-semetic.
clamhurt_legbeard ago
mfw i have to spend a year in the auschwitz death camp
mfw i survive anyway
Turnagain ago
The fact is, we DO have measurements for the graves. Three of them from three eyewitnesses. Yankel Wiernik said that there were five mass graves that measured 10X25X50 meters. Too few to contain 700,000+ cadavers. The Hoefle telegram said that 713,555 Jews were sent to Treblinka by December 31, 1942. Chil Rajchman said that the graves measured 12X30X50 meters and that there were eleven graves. Four of those graves were larger than 12X30X50 meters with at least one of the larger graves capable of containing 250,000 cadavers. Rothstein said that the graves measured 6X15X120 meters. Take your pick. Curious how the eyewitnesses couldn't even get the size or number of graves to match.
Furthermore, the graves were supposedly dug with a M&H model B dragline equipped with a clamshell bucket and a ~35 foot boom. Since a 35 foot boom with a clamshell could stockpile no higher than 5-6 meters, the stockpile of dirt from even Wiernik's graves would have been about four kilometers long.
That's just for openers. We haven't gotten to the hermetically sealed brick gas chamber and the magic Jew barbeque yet.
NiggerVirus ago
FUCK YOU IM THE JEWISH SHAPESHIFTER. HOW DARE YOU NOT MENTION MY NAME, YOU WILL RESPECT ME, YOU WILL RUN YOUR FINGER THROUGH MY HAIR CURLS AND TELL ME YOU LOVE ME.
1812-was-not-a-tie ago
Good analysis. I'm just open to talking about it, man. I figured it would be valuable to have a perspective of a non-Jew who had relatives in camps and can relay some of their stories.
I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but the all-is-fake story makes no sense to me. I don't know if you subscribe to it, I'm guessing some on here do.
My point of view, and it's outlined in the long post, is that even if you just set up internment and work camps, they'll turn into a death camp simply by running out of food as you lose the war. That seems to be my grandma's experience. Staggering numbers of dead are no surprise even if you're not trying to kill them. I mean didn't the flu at the end of WW1 kill more than the war?
Chimaeric ago
That's not how it works. The whole of Germany starved.. work camp or not. A death camp as we were educated to believe is a specific place set up to exterminate large amounts of people. The fact is that these were myths. Saying just because after the war people died in the work camps so they were death camps is asinine.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
JIDF might've caught wind
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
good stuff, but remember that we haven't found enough mass graves to account for the numbers either even if they weren't gassed and/or cremated
Hysterical ago
Forget how many have been found, where are all the Jewish groups spending their hard earned shekels attempting to find more of the mass graves? Seems to me there would be some sort of movement to find the remains and bring them to Israel.
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
I didn't see that, but it's weird since the post says nothing about that stuff.
18271511? ago
For a second I thought it was me
1812-was-not-a-tie ago
I know it's pretty amazing odds. Especially from both sides of the family. I had no clue how unusual this was until recently. I wonder if the odds are better for Serbs, I haven't looked into the numbers.
ruck_feddit ago
Ok, non-jew with kikes on both sides of the family that survived death camps. I'd love to have an ama with a liar. That'd be productive.
Goys-R-Us ago
Fuck off you liar. Nobody is buying your bullshit.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
it's almost unbelieveable...
wt1984yb ago
Just to play Devil's Advocate, not all people who accept the Holocaust are Jews.
I didn't believe the Holocaust was bullshit when I first came to Voat, due to being conditioned my whole life. It wasn't until I watched "One Third of the Holocaust" that I realized the possibility that the Holocaust (as we are told) is total bullshit.
jimibulgin ago
https://invidio.us/watch?v=zlgTgIOmRT4
jimibulgin ago
True, bc it has been beaten into their heads by Jews (and other Zionists) on an almost daily basis for decades. Go over to Reddit and try to go a single day without mention of "literally Hitler" or the Holocaust on the front page.
1812-was-not-a-tie ago
Ha ha ha this is hilarious, have an upvote for making me famous.
Let me post it here again:
Grandma who was in Auschwitz is 100% Serbian. Her older brother was a communist Partisan guerrilla, and she was either helping them, or was just brought in for questioning and acted like a spiteful young Serb in the interrogation and got sent off to jail then a local camp then Auschwitz then a light bulb factory somewhere in Germany.
Great-grandpa (from the other side) was half Swiss half Serb, and a retired army Major. He got picked up by chance as an officer POW and sent to Mauthausen Oflag.
I'm 1/8 Swiss 7/8 Serb. 0% Jew and I have the foreskin to prove it.
Nosense ago
Clearly the thing to do is post a dick pick with your username written in sharpie on it
KVD ago
He's gonna need a much shorter username.
Haywood_Jablomeme ago
@.
KVD ago
Huhhhhh?
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
again, any citations? anyone could come here and make a bunch of stuff up, do you expect people to just take your word for everything you say?
Keefin ago
If she was a dirty Commie, then she was most likely a liar, too. No offense.
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
Except nothing in the post reinforces the "death camp" narrative except for "I always assumed the ashes gramma mentioned were the bodies of dead jews". The personal anecdotes are about labor camps, which is not something that is in dispute.
NosebergShekelman ago
oy vey the holohoax was real(in my mind). Us survivors must relive the memories ery day. Every time I go to a theme park the roller coasters trigger me and make me rememba the 6 million times I was on the holocoaster of death. It was a shoah. Luckily some wolves saved me. Shaloms™✡️🇮🇱
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
This sounds more like a guy struggling to find a middle ground between what he was taught and what he has since learned than one who is trying to protect the narrative. A personal anecdote from grandma about spreading ashes that grandma assumed were from the bodies of prisoners killed by her captors is pretty meaningless and does nothing to support his assumption that there were still millions killed. If he were worried about defending the narrative he'd come up with something better than that.
shadow332 ago
Ahhh, that explains it.
shadow332 ago
What's with these kikes lately? Is it because of the latest plebbit migration?
dudelol ago
Not only Jews were interned. Gypsies homosexuals traitors anti nazis and bolsheviks americans British polish russians and blacks all were interned. The only jews meme is used to inflate numbers. Most jews were sent to Israel or moved to america before the death camps even started.
https://youtu.be/akihQbAcxpE
StrangeThingsAfoot ago
The vast, vast majority of people who died in the camps were Russians. Hitler hated the slavs. Russians got sent to concentration camps, not POW camps (POW camps were used for brits/Americans/etc).
crazy_eyes ago
when did the death camps start?
fucking bullshit
dudelol ago
Towards the end and after the war ended
crazy_eyes ago
You mean when the supply lines were broken and people were dying of diseases?
dudelol ago
I mean you can check but mass graves and killings happened before the end of the war and after. Ww2 was a protestant kill off. And nothing but a war for the pope.
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
Maximillian Kolbe and Santiago Gapp beg to differ.
dudelol ago
Lots of confused peeps out there for sure
https://youtu.be/HZkqIhDcf6Y
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
Eric Jon Phelps, Israeli diamond merchant?
dudelol ago
Alex jones...texe mars....
👌
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
Every bit as legit as the (((guy))) you linked to.
dudelol ago
Alex is smom
EJP is a pastor.
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
lol
antiliberalsociety ago
dudelol ago
Lol. Psyop sub? Lurk more
crazy_eyes ago
The mass graves were from the Holodomor, Christians killed by the Jews. The people in the German camps died from starvation or typhus, just as the people outside the camps were doing
dudelol ago
Christians killed by Catholics.*
crazy_eyes ago
No, that's simply fallacious. The Jews were behind the Holodomor. That is a verifiable fact.
Catholics are Christians btw
dudelol ago
....yeah no.
crazy_eyes ago
great argument!
dudelol ago
You are the one not watching my linked video that disproves your comment.
antiliberalsociety ago
You never watched my Benjamin Freedman that disproves yours
crazy_eyes ago
I am currently in a place where I can not view and listen to a video. But the facts are facts. No gas chambers. No orders to exterminate. No mass graves.
h3rts ago
TWIST! https://files.catbox.moe/a62s1k.jpg
shadow332 ago
h3rts ago
How old account should be to make memes or jokes?
TestForScience ago
You can still make memes and jokes.
You'll just get berated for being a newfag, though, newfag.
shadow332 ago
lurk more faggot
Corpse_washer ago
You wouldnt insult flatulence with him, would you?
lord_nougat ago
I FART IN THEIR GENERAL DIRECTION!
theoldones ago
gottem. noice.